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    babati's Avatar Active Member
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    [Guide] How to recognise dangerous members of forums and melt their face!

    So , as i've seen a lot of forums , a lot of different cases of people being annoying and stuff i decided to make this topic , so you can actually see what can be out there in a seemingly normal forum post.

    So here is a little dictionary of what i've seen around forums with description of the kind of dude we talk about and how can we just destroy or at least stop him.


    1.Haters (hater - a person who hates):
    His hate is unjustified.But don't think he is just being jealous.The hater just hates your success.He doesn't like his own place in the world either and knowing there is nothing better for him he just keeps living his harsh life rejecting any given to him proofs that he can have better life.For example you can just open any news site that allows comments from the visitors.Take a look at the last 10 comments.By now you should be knowing what i am talking about.The bad thing is that there are more and more haters , their numbers grow every day.No matter that the word "hater" is new and doesn't even exist in Wikipedia but only in the dictionarry of the new city language (urbandictionary.com) the described behavior is as old as the humankind itself.The safety of being annonimous trough the internet is the main reason the haters feel free to flame on forever.

    How can we stop them?
    Well just like trolls they count on the thing they say and that they will get responds.If you just ignore them ,stop answering their curses and stop any kind of interaction with them they'll just go home crying.

    2.Troll
    In the Internet , the trolls are creatures (in most cases humans but there can be doubts sometimes) who enter certain community and start direct and open conflict with everyone.Their aim is not the be on the winner's side , they just want to be noticed.Often they are too incompetent for the certain topic , specially if they had entered a tech forum and that's easily seen because they flame on many things , they are aggressive and like to swear (YOU MOTHERF**** ; I WILL **** YOUR ***** YOU STUPID **** and so on).Ignoring them is hard because most of the times the insults are targeted towards the whole community and not everyone is able to keep silent.That's why in some of the forums you encounter you will see an sign or topic called "Don't feed the trolls" with containing the description of the typical troll and the counteractions that can be taken to make him go away.We must say that sometimes trolls can look very intelligent and sometimes they seek not only some perverted entertainment , but are after more material goals.There are and trolls who act in groups.An common example is when a rival forum group registers.If we know who they are , their aim is obvious.But they act undercover.They want to destroy the community so they can allure the members in their own forums.For that they start their troll attack , witch makes most of the old members of the host community go crazy.They create an hostile environment , that is enough to make most of the people (the host forum users) to leave.Their actions make new users be suspected and watched carefully , and probably making them leave with the thought of "People are too paranoid inhere".The forum becomes....unpleasant place to be.And tada! - TROLL MISSION COMPLETE.
    How can we stop them?
    They count their success the number of the comments they receive , for them it doesn't matter what they contain and that's why the best strategy against them (in fact the only one) is to just fully ignore them.

    3.Baiters (Baiter - a person who allures):
    People sometimes make mistakes.You end up in a place full of people where there are many activities going on and tons of information is transmitted.That makes you think the place deserves an look and you decide to stay.But with your first post (like saying Hi) u get LITERALLY thousands of flaming , they attack you and ridicule you, and you end up at least confused.It does look like a world of trolls.But it's not.It's a test.The trolls don't seem to have a common goal.They do not expect an answer.They can talk rubbish just to tease the rest of the people.Unlike them Baiters have goals.In this case it's an entrance examination , just like a rude joke in a summer camp.It's purpose is to see how tough is the new member.It's rude and unpleasant but if a person successfully passes trough it all goes well.
    Sometimes baiters look just like trolls , because they use some of the trolls' moves but baiters are far more complicated and rare and should be payed much more attention on if u get in encounter with them.People who practice baiting are very intelligent and unlike trolls and haiters they know why they do it.Sometimes their goal is just to spank those haiters and trolls even using their own resources , but it's possible they have criminal intentions
    .


    How can we stop them?
    The main rule when protecting from baiters is to NEVER give personal information (any kind of data) unless you fully trust the certain person who you communicate with.

    Troll Tactics
    Different trolls act different.Some can respond to all with only simple phrases , others like intelligent and gracious ones to make sure their opponent bites the dust.But there are some techniques used by most experienced trolls.Here are some of them:

    And who's the troll now? Huh?
    Popular tactic of the forum trolls is to accuse their opponents that actually they are the trolls.It's very easy to accuse someone that he is the one who trolls around , that all his posts and proofs are nothing more than a provocation , and that he is the flamer-terrorist , came with the only perpouse - to flood.The unexperienced users start justifying themselfs witch in most cases leads to nowhere.

    Just a joke
    If the argument reaches it's peak and the whole forum stands again the troll , he will just simply declare that all he said about anything and anyone was just a joke and his opponents were just stupid enough to take him serious.

    Twin brothers
    Very effective method , specially in the forums and IRC is the creation of your own twin under different nickname and using him to give support to yourself.When in the argument between two opponents appears an third person who absolutely agrees and takes the position of one of the members of the argument and making fun of the other one , it has enough psychological effect.In fact the twin can have nothing in common with the main troll character , telling he is mature and serious person.

    You know what?
    The experienced flamers commonly use well known facts or cases as confirmation for their theories.For example somewhere in the #anti-gay channel , the troll starts his provocation with that being a gay isn't that bad and uses as proofs tons of famous persons , being successful without being a gay getting in their way to the top.

    Calm down kid
    Very effective way , in which at the beginning the troll makes someone of the readers inside him (and for that it's enough very logical and good arguments to be made fun of) and after that , when he let go of his emotions and transforms himself into the inside of a troll to bid on the contrast.To talk calmly , wisely , suppressing the opponent with psychical (or emotional) attacks.

    Proofs
    The experienced trolls like to require proofs for every sentence devoted to them.No matter what you tell him , what you accuse him in, the troll will always want undeniable proofs, or he will just take the whole thing as talking trash.I don't think i should say that no matter what proofs you give him ,they will be always laughed at and made fun of their authors.

    The silence of the lambs
    The silence is trolls' best weapon.When arguing the opponent can use brilliant proof ,but the smart troll will just leave it without answer , and instead just comment perfectly unimportant fragments of his opponent's post.But if the opponent makes an mistake or use too weak proof the troll will flame on him a lot

    Conclusion

    Remember:
    Arguing on the Internet is just like running in the Special Olympics.Even if you win you are still retarded.


    So just don't feed the troll!


    PS. Wall of text crits you for 10000000 word damage. You die.
    Last edited by babati; 12-31-2008 at 09:01 AM.

    [Guide] How to recognise dangerous members of forums and melt their face!
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    darkmagishin's Avatar Active Member
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    how about just hit the ignoer button?


    o


    also, you forgot porn trolls lol, how does one censor them when there isnt mods online and they are posting like crazy?lawlalwl

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    babati's Avatar Active Member
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    Well this about preventing dangerous and annoying people from destroying the community, not about ignoring them and doing nothing about the problem.

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    Easiest way to stop trolls is to report them to a mod/admin and they'll wave their little banstick :P

    (If the banned person uses proxies it might get a bit hectic. i know a mod who banned half Germany off a forum by accident because of a troll using proxies)


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    Еби ги тия тролове, безмозъчни същества.

    Иначе хейтърите ги мразя най-много.

    **** those trolls, mindless creatures

    Haters are the ones I hate the most though.

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    Krunkage's Avatar Banned
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    Block, Delete, Report, Ignore and continue.

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    I'm sorry to say that there's a high chance the person who appears to be trolling you, may show resistance to your tactic, yet there's still a chance it will affect the person.

    The best solution for this problem would simply be to -ignore- the person, or report his/hers actions to the staff, or related.

    I would highly recommend you to prevent any sort of fighting with the person.


    Regards The Zaronz, who else?

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    thpthpthp's Avatar Contributor
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    pshh you guys are all retarded lololol!

    Just kidding =P
    Good post really

    "Just a joke
    If the argument reaches it's peak and the whole forum stands again the troll , he will just simply declare that all he said about anything and anyone was just a joke and his opponents were just stupid enough to take him serious. "
    ^ That's the most annoying IMO!! ^

    Last edited by thpthpthp; 01-08-2009 at 10:31 PM.

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    babati's Avatar Active Member
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    Thanks for the comments guys :3
    And Jimei, haha pi4

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    it burns me!!?!?!?!

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    babati's Avatar Active Member
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    awesome?

    ~filla~

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