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  1. #376
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    Originally Posted by Laiq View Post
    i've tried everything and cant get this to work at all, nothing comes up when i try to run the shortcut or the bat file.

    Shortcut: C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:Fisk /savecred "cmd /C cd "D:/Poe/" && PathOfExile_x64.exe"

    Bat: SETLOCAL
    ECHO OFF
    SET run_as=C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe

    REM Name of the local user account you are having launch the EXE
    SET local_user=Fisk

    REM Possible EXE names: PathOfExile.exe, PathOfExile_x64.exe, PathOfExileSteam.exe, PathOfExile_x64Steam.exe, PathOfExile_KG.exe, PathOfExile_x64_KG.exe
    SET exe_name=PathOfExile_x64.exe

    REM You can launch the game with additional Parameters
    SET exe_params=

    REM Keep in mind because of strange reasons this one must have / instead of \
    SET exe_path=D:/Poe/
    REM Make sure to change this drive letter if not on C: drive
    CD D:
    TASKLIST /fi "IMAGENAME eq %exe_name%" 2>NUL | FIND /I /N "%exe_name%">NUL
    IF NOT "%ERRORLEVEL%"=="0" START %run_as% /user:%local_user% /savecred "cmd /C cd "%exe_path%" && Start /high %exe_name% %exe_params%"


    What am i doing wrong? I have win 10 22h2
    When you set up your limited user and set your security options, what was the full user name? Was it just Fisk or was it <computer name>\Fisk? eg my computer is called MAX-PRIME and my user is NinjaGamer so my user name for the bat is MAX-PRIME\NinjaGamer. So checking that might help, it was the issue that I had. You could also try launching from a command prompt and see if it errors and see what that might tell you.

    My launch command is:
    C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:MAX-PRIME\NinjaGamer /savecred "powershell -command cd D:/Games/PoE_Win/;d:/Games/PoE_Win/PathOfExile_x64.exe --nologo --waitforpreload"
    Alter to match your system and try that. I'd post my .bat too but it's for launching multiple accounts and is rather large.

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  2. #377
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    The name of the account is just "Fisk".

    When i check users folder it does not say anything else than my main user and the standard user "Fisk"

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    Can anyone spot why mine won't work? It doesn't give any errors just asks for creds then nothing happens?
    C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:waller /savecred "cmd /C cd "E:/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Path of Exile/" && PathOfExileSteam.exe"

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    Originally Posted by Laiq View Post
    The name of the account is just "Fisk".

    When i check users folder it does not say anything else than my main user and the standard user "Fisk"
    Originally Posted by wallyflopsowned View Post
    Can anyone spot why mine won't work? It doesn't give any errors just asks for creds then nothing happens?
    C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:waller /savecred "cmd /C cd "E:/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Path of Exile/" && PathOfExileSteam.exe"
    https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/mmo...ml#post4430929 (Run PoE as a limited user)

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    Have a lot of fps spikes when using with limited user.

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    how do i do this on windows 11?

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    How i can allow RTSS to work with limited user poe launched? I had it worked before, but couple days ago my system died and i cant recover anything from it, now new ssd and new windows, poe launches with limited user is ok but rtss wont injecting... Works fine on with main user (Dx11, Dx12, Vulkan). Using Windows 10 Pro

    Edit: Shorcut what works for me is but w/o RTSS
    Code:
    C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:MyPOEUser /savecred "cmd /C cd /d "C:/Program Files (x86)/Grinding Gear Games/Path of Exile/" && start PathOfExile_x64.exe --nologo --require-launch"
    with adding full acces to "Grinding Gear Games" directory to limited user, but game now forces to launch PathofExile.exe(cuz x86 was abandoned) PathOfExile_x64.exe is a dead weight

    EDIT: !FIX! UAC SHOULD BE TURNED ON in your Windows!!!
    Last edited by wasd456; 11-01-2023 at 08:51 AM. Reason: Find a solution after 2 days of researching

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    So I've used this Limited User method with great success on Windows 7. Thank You for sharing this idea/method all those years back.

    However I am in need of help, allow me to explain.
    On windows 7 a program ran as a 'limited user' is not able to see the processes of other users/admins users.
    On windows 10 a program ran as a 'standard user' can see the processes of other users/admins users.
    (standard user is the same process as described in the OP)

    How can I achieve what I had on windows 7, on windows 10?
    I don't want PathofExile able to see the processes ran as administrator, PoE is ran as a 'limited user' on windows 10.

    I've done some research but can't figure a way for it to achieve what I desire.
    My research includes: ACL, AppLocker ("Application Control Policies"), Mandatory Integrity Control & Software Restriction Policies.

    I found that using a Low integrity level, did disallow a program from viewing other processes.
    The catch however is that it also limits it in many other ways, some of which can make a program unable to run properly.

    If anyone with greater knowledge could share their insight, I would really appreciate the help.
    Please & Thank You

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    Originally Posted by L e o View Post
    So I've used this Limited User method with great success on Windows 7. Thank You for sharing this idea/method all those years back.

    However I am in need of help, allow me to explain.
    On windows 7 a program ran as a 'limited user' is not able to see the processes of other users/admins users.
    On windows 10 a program ran as a 'standard user' can see the processes of other users/admins users.
    (standard user is the same process as described in the OP)

    How can I achieve what I had on windows 7, on windows 10?
    I don't want PathofExile able to see the processes ran as administrator, PoE is ran as a 'limited user' on windows 10.

    I've done some research but can't figure a way for it to achieve what I desire.
    My research includes: ACL, AppLocker ("Application Control Policies"), Mandatory Integrity Control & Software Restriction Policies.

    I found that using a Low integrity level, did disallow a program from viewing other processes.
    The catch however is that it also limits it in many other ways, some of which can make a program unable to run properly.

    If anyone with greater knowledge could share their insight, I would really appreciate the help.
    Please & Thank You
    Realistically, you shouldn't worry about them being able to see a process list.

    Frequently, anti-cheats will dig into programs and look for open handles to the game. This will be blocked.
    If that method isn't available, they'll have to find another way to look for suspicious programs.... or scan all of them. Lets just assume they scan everything.
    Now, how do you determine if this program is something you should ban for? Usually, they would open it up and scan for patterns to say "Hey, this running program is a known cheat. Ban this user." They need to access the path of the application. I think (but can't remember) they are unable to get the path.
    Lets say that they are still able to get the path though. They've gotta open up the file in order to do the pattern scan. As long as your limited user does not have access to the ExileAPI/PoEHUD folder, they are again stopped.

    So realistically, they would need to ban on JUST a process name... which ExileAPI's current name is "Loader.exe" which is generic enough that I wouldn't feel comfortable banning on it.


    If windows isn't blocking the process names and you want to... I think you'd need to either write/inject hooks into PoE (which is more dangerous detection-wise) or maybe do something at the driver level?

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    Hey I am no longer able to access my filters on a limited user, any ideas why? (The online filters show up but do not work)

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    Originally Posted by suzimia View Post
    Hey I am no longer able to access my filters on a limited user, any ideas why? (The online filters show up but do not work)
    Your filters are saved to your local user. Place them in your limited user's directory instead of your own and you'll see them.

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    Unfortunately the game is almost unplayable lagwise when running through limited user since I updated to win 11, anyone have fix for this?

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    Originally Posted by Sychotix View Post
    Your filters are saved to your local user. Place them in your limited user's directory instead of your own and you'll see them.
    I actually did try that, I even have filters followed on the poe website but all it does is show my list of filters. When I select them it doesnt get activated. Theres no confirmation of "Loot filter loaded" either

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    I still cant get this to work, at all

    The limited user is : Lorad

    The code in the .bat fiie is: C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:Lorad /savecred "cmd /C cd /d "C:/Program Files (x86)/Grinding Gear Games/Path of Exile/" && start PathOfExile_x64.exe --nologo --require-launch"

    The folder for poe is correct, but nothing happens

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    C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:temp /savecred "powershell -command cd 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Grinding Gear Games\Path of Exile\';& 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Grinding Gear Games\Path of Exile\Client.exe' --nologo --waitforpreload"

    This worked for me. Remember to replace the user. Important: your standard user must have a password!

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