Need serious help, scammed out of a lot of money

[pandrade11]

But the thing is, I am in the military and stationed and Germany and he is in Australia how would I go about that?

[WonderousKeys]

But the thing is, I am in the military and stationed and Germany and he is in Australia how would I go about that?

I don't really have an answer for you but a conversation with your lawyer would probably be pretty helpful

[pandrade11]

Alright I am going to do that then.

[WonderousKeys]

How would I go about this though? Because I am stationed here in Germany and he lives in Australia

Again, call your lawyer and see if anything can be done. If you don't have a lawyer, find one or talk with somebody who would have more knowledge on this subject

[beyou]

I can help you. I've recovered $10,000 + over the last 10 years.

Even thought its a digital item and against the game TOS, you are still entitled to a refund. PM me, let's talk

[FoxyVGS]

I can help you. I've recovered $10,000 + over the last 10 years.

Even thought its a digital item and against the game TOS, you are still entitled to a refund. PM me, let's talk

Be cautious of people like this; unrepped members could be problematic

[pandrade11]

Be cautious of people like this; unrepped members could be problematic

Ya i know I'm not even going to bother with him, I just want my money back ugh

[pandrade11]

I found a lawyer and he will be contacting him, so hopefully all works out

[jas2davir]

file a police report against him, im sure you wouldnt get the account the least you can do is get a police report against him, and with proper evidence provided im sure they might arrest him. Australia takes a serious stance against cyber crimes.

[beyou]

Be cautious of people like this; unrepped members could be problematic

That's fair. I use more active trading sites and have ample perfect feedback. I can help, I will not ask for any personal information.

[FoxyVGS]

All in all, just trust repped members and for non repped members you need to have a lot more details to cover you on paypal

[JoeThePlumber]

Not forget to file a police report against him, and really the next time just buy one new account from Blizzard and get the Lvl 90 upgrade! Gear can be earned real fast and Cheesements really not matter, pets and mounts are just skins and you can only use 1 to start with!

[SUCHMAGE]

you really shouldn't pay in installments and give access back into the account. Not to justify his actions... that of scum, you did open yourself up for it!

[SmileMoar]

I have bad news for you.

Here in Australia selling accounts such as WoW is considered illegal. The sale of in-game items and gold however is not, just got to pay the appropriate taxes on the income received.

Since this based on an illegal commodity there is no protection for you that allows for recovery of the money under consumer protection laws as legally you had no contract in place*. You could take him to the Small Claims Court (since the value is <$10000) but you find them unlikely to help a lot here given the former. You could try to sue him to get it back but it would get thrown out pretty quickly as the transaction was illegal.

If you report to the police and IF there is enough evidence they MIGHT be able to charge him with something (I doubt it tbh since you don't have much concrete proof (screenshots are too easily manipulated) at present) but they would likely charge you as well.


In summary however this is a risk you take when you enter into business with people trading in virtual and legally questionable goods. Unfortunately for you, you got stung this time. And a lawyer from another country will not be able to do much other than threaten at a distance with hot air. Not to mention costs would be higher than that of what you spent in the first place.


(*-A contract in Australia can only exist if it is legally enforceable. Since this is not the case, in the eyes of the law here you have no contract.)

[pandrade11]

I have bad news for you.

Here in Australia selling accounts such as WoW is considered illegal. The sale of in-game items and gold however is not, just got to pay the appropriate taxes on the income received.

Since this based on an illegal commodity there is no protection for you that allows for recovery of the money under consumer protection laws as legally you had no contract in place*. You could take him to the Small Claims Court (since the value is <$10000) but you find them unlikely to help a lot here given the former. You could try to sue him to get it back but it would get thrown out pretty quickly as the transaction was illegal.

If you report to the police and IF there is enough evidence they MIGHT be able to charge him with something (I doubt it tbh since you don't have much concrete proof (screenshots are too easily manipulated) at present) but they would likely charge you as well.


In summary however this is a risk you take when you enter into business with people trading in virtual and legally questionable goods. Unfortunately for you, you got stung this time. And a lawyer from another country will not be able to do much other than threaten at a distance with hot air. Not to mention costs would be higher than that of what you spent in the first place.


(*-A contract in Australia can only exist if it is legally enforceable. Since this is not the case, in the eyes of the law here you have no contract.)

You my goodsir are wrong, lol sorry. And it was prob you logging onto to this account and trying to convince me not to sue you, but I am going to sorry I'm getting my money back. You stole my money regardless he is still in the wrong.