[MOD] TurboHUD <-- The very first thread TurboHUD had ever

[Stormreaver]

Regarding bans and 3rd party software, it is not a clear-cut issue imo (just my opinion) but here is what I saw in an announcement post by Blizzard:

As a reminder, we don't permit the use of hacks or other third-party software in conjunction with Diablo III. Most of the programs out there that are intended for use with the game are actually cheat programs and automation programs ("bots") that exploit Diablo III's mechanics and provide players with an unfair advantage. However, "third-party software" also refers to any file or program that attempts to:

- Obtain information about Diablo III that's not normally available to the player
- Transmit or modify the Diablo III game files
- Provide access to features or abilities beyond what is allowed by the game's design
- Change how Diablo III interacts with Battle.net

In addition to undermining the spirit of fair play, this type of software can cause nasty technical problems, game-related bugs, and stability and performance issues with Battle.net. All of which can put a demon-sized damper on your gaming experience.

As far as I am concerned, this program does not violate those above points:
- It does not obtain info not normally available to players. Everything is taken from the game itself: stats, formulas and data that you can have on the side. I have Excel sheets where I used to do all the calculations for runs manually (exp, drops, etc) and this prog saved me the time and hassle of having to do that manually.
- It does not hack, modify or interact with D3 in any way, other than reading some harmless information.
- It does not provide access to features or abilities that are beyond what game design allows.
- It does not automate anything but simply provides a UI with a bit more info that one can obtain manually anyway.
- It does not give its users any advantage over someone who does not use it. It simply gives more convenience.

On the flip side, I read Blizzard are ok with a 3rd party software like multiboxing, and I even read there are streamers who use LootAlert publicly and have not been banned.
Obviously if Blizzard decide they want to ban us for using TurboHUD for any reason, I will appeal but the risk is always there.

[DexeN]

Check the exceptions.txt file in the \logs\ folder in your turbohud folder.

Yep found it, was because i launched 2 instances by mistake :>

[enigma32]

Regarding bans and 3rd party software, it is not a clear-cut issue imo (just my opinion) but here is what I saw in an announcement post by Blizzard:



As far as I am concerned, this program does not violate those above points:
- It does not obtain info not normally available to players. Everything is taken from the game itself: stats, formulas and data that you can have on the side. I have Excel sheets where I used to do all the calculations for runs manually (exp, drops, etc) and this prog saved me the time and hassle of having to do that manually.
- It does not hack, modify or interact with D3 in any way, other than reading some harmless information.
- It does not provide access to features or abilities that are beyond what game design allows.
- It does not automate anything but simply provides a UI with a bit more info that one can obtain manually anyway.
- It does not give its users any advantage over someone who does not use it. It simply gives more convenience.

On the flip side, I read Blizzard are ok with a 3rd party software like multiboxing, and I even read there are streamers who use LootAlert publicly and have not been banned.
Obviously if Blizzard decide they want to ban us for using TurboHUD for any reason, I will appeal but the risk is always there.

- It does obtain info not normally available to players. All map related features that shows you more than is directly visible on the screen is an example of this. Data exists in the client cause it has to be prepared, but it is not intended for the player to have access to all of this.
- It does give its users an advantage over someone who does not use it as you can greatly optimize your gameplay and take decisions earlier than would otherwise be possible (again thinking of map features). Where it is most important however, in PvP, then HUD is disabled.

In my opinion there are no grounds to ban due to HUD usage.

[KillerJohn]

Whenever your ready

on monday. weekend -> family

[KillerJohn]

The mod is quite good. By the way, why would it be to illegal to use, anyway? If we don't modify any memory of the game.

Doing something illegal means you do something against the law. D3 EULA is not law. HUD is a cheat, HUD is an evil tool, HUD can be a lot of things, but not illegal. Well, not in Europe.
However, memory reading is against the EULA, like memory writing and code injecting, etc. You should not feel yourself safe - we can get a ban anytime.

[KillerJohn]

- It does not obtain info not normally available to players.

And the reveal function? Detecting elites and dungeons for 4-5 screens? Those are normally not available to you...

It is very simple: until Blizzard does not DECLARE that HUD is allowed they can ban everybody - if they can detect it.

[prrovoss]

if they can detect it.

and thats the most crucial point in this whole discussion^^

[KillerJohn]

and thats the most crucial point in this whole discussion^^

no it is not, because they can if they want.

[Andreea93]

well did anyone got banned ? i looked into this thread preety often and i did not saw someone banned , it's against blizzard rules as gear changer was , etc but is not a bot and there is no way to get permanent ban for this

[KillerJohn]

well did anyone got banned ? i looked into this thread preety often and i did not saw someone banned , it's against blizzard rules as gear changer was , etc but is not a bot and there is no way to get permanent ban for this

really, what people smoke nowadays? why the hell do you think you can't get a permaban for this? :confused:

[Stormreaver]

- It does obtain info not normally available to players. All map related features that shows you more than is directly visible on the screen is an example of this. Data exists in the client cause it has to be prepared, but it is not intended for the player to have access to all of this.
- It does give its users an advantage over someone who does not use it as you can greatly optimize your gameplay and take decisions earlier than would otherwise be possible (again thinking of map features). Where it is most important however, in PvP, then HUD is disabled.

In my opinion there are no grounds to ban due to HUD usage.

And the reveal function? Detecting elites and dungeons for 4-5 screens? Those are normally not available to you...
It is very simple: until Blizzard does not DECLARE that HUD is allowed they can ban everybody - if they can detect it.

I guess only the map function goes a bit into the "info not normally available" section. However, the detection is rather small (at least for me?). When I am playing with my clan mates, I see things about 1s earlier than they do. It is not a game breaking feature by any means, it just provides more convenience -in my humble opinion- especially as there is no real PVP in this game.

I am not saying this tool is not against TOS or w/e and a ban risk is always there. I am simply saying it is not a hack or a cheat in the normal sense and if you want to label it as a cheat then it is one of the tamest cheats, as it mostly provides convenience more than anything else, at least imo. It has saved me a lot of time that would have been otherwise spent calculating drop and exp rates, in addition to various other functions ... so no more stuff like:

https://i.imgur.com/gpkBXv8.jpg
or
https://i.imgur.com/u918Ckj.jpg.

Eitherway, thank you KJ for making this possible!!

[Andreea93]

really, what people smoke nowadays? why the hell do you think you can't get a permaban for this? :confused:

because is more an addon than a hack, i want to see my dps , wich the retarded game himself can`t provide me

[cloudstrife007]

honestly to me.. HUD provides things the game should already do in the first place.

[zzerbzz]

guys i am new to this, how do you fix the black boxes on my character / items. I tried to run it in windows xp sp3 compatibility as suggested but, my character still has a black box over him unless i cast stuff.

[KillerJohn]

guys i am new to this, how do you fix the black boxes on my character / items. I tried to run it in windows xp sp3 compatibility as suggested but, my character still has a black box over him unless i cast stuff.

read the first post.