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    Originally Posted by kingdomofsteel View Post
    I was going to go on capslock but I calmed down a little. Anyway what I had to say - I would love to see you doing this. Really. What I actually mean is either post a video of going from iskatu to rakanoth and killing rakanoth withoutout going out of archon form with 40k dps or don't trashtalk and confuse people. I have 36k hp with 600 all res and 50k dps on my wizard and I would love to see a mage killing rakanoth in archon form. With 40k dps. So please, post your video.

    Ok read more carefully what I said. I said 40k to kill Iskatu quickly. then added AS FOR RAKANOTH so they were 2 seperate thoughts not seperated well. Rakanoth I would suggest far higher DPS if you don't plan on leaving archon form. You are getting way to worked up bro. Calm yourself before you blow a blood vessel or something.

    Also 50k DPS is low for an end game mage. So sorry to hear about your low DPS? I guess?

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    Originally Posted by Alah Bomb View Post
    lots of debate on this tactic.

    Let me clear the water a bit.

    This *IS* doable on inferno. you don't need 70k+ DPS to get it done either. 40k is about comfy. To ensure a quick kill on iskatu and as for rakanoth. you CAN kill him while still in archon form if you do it with a little skill.

    also you don't use teleport on your normal bar at all... You should never be out of archon form minus the few seconds you are posistioning yourself before iskatu encounter.

    People saying this is soooo impossible. just TRY it before you scream about how impossible it is.
    Originally Posted by Alah Bomb View Post
    Ok read more carefully what I said. I said 40k to kill Iskatu quickly. then added AS FOR RAKANOTH so they were 2 seperate thoughts not seperated well. Rakanoth I would suggest far higher DPS if you don't plan on leaving archon form. You are getting way to worked up bro. Calm yourself before you blow a blood vessel or something.

    Also 50k DPS is low for an end game mage. So sorry to hear about your low DPS? I guess?
    I am reading very carefully what you said. Are you ?

    "This *IS* doable on inferno. you don't need 70k+ DPS to get it done either. 40k is about comfy. To ensure a quick kill on iskatu and as for rakanoth. you CAN kill him while still in archon form if you do it with a little skill."

    You said that it's all doable and u underlined it. You said we need 40k dps. So show us your skill by killing rakanoth with 40k dps in archon form. I asked for video mate, not for excuses. I would love to see your skill and I believe much better mages than me would do as well. If you want to change what you said in the first place and replace it with "You can kill iskatu with 40k dps in archon but it won't happen with rakanoth" then remove the last post where you said that and I quite "This *IS* doable on inferno". Because like I said, and other people as well, it is not. We all know iskatu is killable on inferno and we all know rakanoth is killable on inferno as well. What the OP posted however, his "guide" while good for leveling is not usable in inferno, again - like I said multiple times. So unless you can read carefully OP's guide, and I'll simplify it for you - pop archon -> kill iskatu -> kill all the mobs from iskatu to rakanoth without going out of archon -> kill rakanoth in archon as well - and show us a video of doing it with 40k dps (now I'm just having fun) (no, scratch that, do it with the best gear you have. If your wizard has 100k dps do it with it. We'll excuse your big mouth saying it's doable with 40k dps and we'll accept a video of you doing it with your best gear), unless you can do that, I see no reason to bump the thread anymore. OP came here posting a good leveling guide, which regretfully is useless in inferno, just as I remarked in my first post. Then you came here saying you can defy gravity. We asked for a proof and all you kept on saying is that you really can defy gravity. If you can do it - show it. If that's the case me and the rest of the mages here have a lot to learn from you. If you can't however I don't see why you are you hitting yourself in the chest.

    Oh and about my low 50k dps, given what my defensive stats are it serves me good. It allows me to farm cydea + azmodan with 5 stacks and it allowed me to kill everything including diablo after the critical mass nerf. I am not bragging about my gear, even though it's incredibly good given the fact I spent less than 2 milion for everything I have on me. All I'm saying is that I have gear which allows me to easly farm ilvl 63 AND to kill diablo on inferno, and even then what you said is perfectly doable is not just hard for me - it's impossible.

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    I'm trying to read this thread and my head hurts. So much crazy spelling.

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    @kingdomofsteel I didn't even read your post. Seemed wordy and full of rage. I wish you could cry less and add constructive input more.

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    I really dont know where this conversation is going but it seems like someone needs to test this out, baby time to log in and do it on my Wizard Alt, I will post a video of the run if it goes well if not I will update saying mission failure abort. Give me a few hours and i will see what happens.

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    Originally Posted by Alah Bomb View Post
    @kingdomofsteel I didn't even read your post. Seemed wordy and full of rage. I wish you could cry less and add constructive input more.
    Thank you for showing me what a constructive input means mate. If you bothered to actually read my post before "crying" about it you would know that it's all about the likelihood of this method on Inferno difficulty. Once again, thanks for being constructive and discussing the method in the original post.

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    Originally Posted by Alah Bomb View Post
    @kingdomofsteel I didn't even read your post. Seemed wordy and full of rage. I wish you could cry less and add constructive input more.
    I'll try to help out.

    He's calling your bluff.

    And I agree with him.

    You clearly state "This IS doable", which implies that the entire topic that is being mentioned is doable, including killing both bosses AND all mobs while still in the form. You then give numbers explaining exactly what is needed to do so.

    Then he quoted you saying that it is NOT doable,but part of it is doable.

    This, reflects back to his first post.

    Sorry, but he nailed it.

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    This is not do-able. You will get 2-shotted by elite mobs on the way to rakanoth. It's only do-able if you get easier combos of the elite mobs, but any two combos of fast/immune/reflect damage will DESTROY you. By the time you're fighitng Rakanoth, your initial force armor and familiar buffs will run out, so you will be even more gimped if you're trying to use 1 archon cast to finish both bosses.

    -Fellow 155k DPS mage

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    You're all saying not doable. But honestly others have posted it works fine for them. So either they are doing something REALLY right or you all just have bad luck. I don't know. I guess to a greater extent I don't care. I can do it and found some decent items JUST last night doing it. Awesome pair of pants and a staff with 1200 damage and 25% more damage on it doing this run, as I grab all chests and weapon racks along the way.

    So I'm sorry you're all having trouble.

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    Originally Posted by Alah Bomb View Post
    You're all saying not doable. But honestly others have posted it works fine for them. So either they are doing something REALLY right or you all just have bad luck. I don't know. I guess to a greater extent I don't care. I can do it and found some decent items JUST last night doing it. Awesome pair of pants and a staff with 1200 damage and 25% more damage on it doing this run, as I grab all chests and weapon racks along the way.

    So I'm sorry you're all having trouble.
    No one posted it works, no one ever showed a video of himself doing it. You said it works and you never posted you proof. First you were explaining how easy it is for you, now you're saying "others did it". Where are these others ? Me and many more are still waiting for any proof whatsoever. There you again claimed you can do it, but there's still no video. Lies and empty words, that's all you are offering us.

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    This is doable.All you have to do is aim for iskatu when he runs onto you and have 50k+ dps.i have done it more than 100+ times with only 1-2 deaths cause of bad luck.Aim better and you ll get it.If some1 wants i can do it for him in game.Pm me your account name to add you and show you how to do it.
    Last edited by poasmeiofkol; 06-09-2012 at 08:46 AM.

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    Originally Posted by poasmeiofkol View Post
    This is doable.All you have to do is aim for iskatu when he runs onto you and have 50k+ dps.i have done it more than 100+ times with only 1-2 deaths cause of bad luck.Aim better and you ll get it.If some1 wants i can do it for him in game.Pm me your account name to add you and show you how to do it.
    No one is saying it is not possible to kill Iskatu, in fact most if not everyone agrees that it is.

    Killing Iskatu, running through the entire area while still in archon form killing everything, and killing Rakanoth, which is what this whole topic is about, is what people question.

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    Originally Posted by poasmeiofkol View Post
    This is doable.All you have to do is aim for iskatu when he runs onto you and have 50k+ dps.i have done it more than 100+ times with only 1-2 deaths cause of bad luck.Aim better and you ll get it.If some1 wants i can do it for him in game.Pm me your account name to add you and show you how to do it.
    You really should have read the whole thread mate. We're talking for a much longer run than kill iskatu -> exit game.

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    (Before I forget: In Inferno

    Pretty much agree with kingdomofsteel here. I believe what you're supposed to do is clear iskatu and get tons of archon duration, and use archon to clear. Then swap to the <35% hp ancient guardian build, which makes Rakk a piece of cake. I don't even think the OP realizes that's what you're supposed to do, and the only people really supporting his "strat" are people who realize this method. It doesn't help that this thread is just riddled with people who can't speak proper English, giving me a massive headache.

    So basically the only thing worth noting in this thread is how you can use extra archon duration to help clear to the next boss. I guess. And even that is debatable on whether it's actually effective.

    But yeah I really would SURE be interested in seeing a video of someone killing inferno Rakk with archon on and non-ridiculous gear. Really interested.

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    Originally Posted by kazmadan View Post
    It doesn't help that this thread is just riddled with people who can't speak proper English, giving me a massive headache.
    I chuckled.

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