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    Hey, can u post your barb gear? please please please

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    Originally Posted by LATM View Post
    Damn, that post was a good read, but I mean, it still isn't linear.
    1-150 gives you an 8% increase in rares from 10 to 18%
    150-300 gives you a 22% increase in rares from 18 to 40%.

    How is that linear?

    3 Chars at 100% gives you incredibly less than 3 Chars at 300%.
    I just wanted to note a few things.

    The MF post lists 150% MF @ 18.40% chance of rares and 290% MF @ 38.22% chance of rares.

    I believe that with enough data points it will be linear, with the exception that the base starts @ 10% chance for rares for 0% MF, instead of 0 - 0.
    Base is 0% MF = 10% chance of rares
    150% MF = 20% chance of rares
    300% MF = 40% chance of rares

    Something alone these lines: https://i.imgur.com/rQbBz.jpg

    So while 0-150 gives only a 10% increase, and 150-300 gives a 20% increase, the graph will still be linear. Anyway that is just my guess.


    Also, the original suggestion was not that 3 Chars at 100% = 3 Chars at 300% but rather this:

    Originally Posted by ElijahBailey View Post
    That is to say, 3 chars at 100% = 1 char at 300% in terms of good rares found.
    At this rate:
    x3 chars @ 100% MF will have 45% (3x15%) chance of rares (guesstimate).
    x3 chars @ 150% MF will have 60% (3x20%) chance of rares (or 55% at the current data points from the MF post).
    x1 char @ 300% MF will have 40% chance of rares.
    Last edited by Stormreaver; 07-10-2012 at 03:16 PM.

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    Yes, 3 chars at 100%MF roughly equals 1 Char at 300%MF. This is true.

    Thats not what linear increase means, because it isn't linear.

    Although what people should take from the graph is that the first 150%mf is only giving them an additional 8% benefit, which is pretty bad.

    If you are going to gear for MF, you should gear for the extra 30% benefit by shooting for 300.

    1x the MF, about 2x return.
    2x the MF, nearly 4x the return.

    not linear.

    ----
    Ty for doing the math for me.

    3 Chars at 150MF = 1 Char at 300MF. This means it takes 450%MF spread over three to equal 300% on one.

    Moral of Story? Gear all 3 chars for 300%MF.
    Last edited by LATM; 07-10-2012 at 09:09 PM.

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    Originally Posted by LATM View Post
    Yes, 3 chars at 100%MF roughly equals 1 Char at 300%MF. This is true.

    Thats not what linear increase means, because it isn't linear.

    Although what people should take from the graph is that the first 150%mf is only giving them an additional 8% benefit, which is pretty bad.

    If you are going to gear for MF, you should gear for the extra 30% benefit by shooting for 300.

    1x the MF, about 2x return.
    2x the MF, nearly 4x the return.

    not linear.

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    Ty for doing the math for me.

    3 Chars at 150MF = 1 Char at 300MF. This means it takes 450%MF spread over three to equal 300% on one.

    Moral of Story? Gear all 3 chars for 300%MF.
    The current data points in that MF post are not enough to get exact %s. It simply points to a trend or a very general direction.
    As I said in my post, I am almost positive it is linear, simply because it would be so much easier to formulate for Blizz; check my post and graph again.

    Also:
    x3 chars @ 150% MF will have 60% (3x20%) chance of rares (or 55% at the current data points from the MF post).
    x1 char @ 300% MF will have 40% chance of rares.

    55% > 40% .. they are not equal and having the first is much better and possibly cheaper in terms of igg :P
    Last edited by Stormreaver; 07-10-2012 at 09:25 PM.

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    Hi LATM, what gear you used on the barbarian for make 450k/h?

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    Thank you for this.
    But the thing is, from observation, those rare items' lvls are mostly 61 or even below that. How can you make money out of that? or I am wrong?

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    You make money of the few that are above ilvl 61. Since you'll be getting a shit ton of rares, even if only a small portion is ilvl 62+ thats stil quite a few I guess.

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    Originally Posted by daroxor View Post
    Hi LATM, what gear you used on the barbarian for make 450k/h?
    feel free to PM me if you want to add me and see my gear. I would ask that you screenshot it all and make a collage like the one JCunit made at the bottom of the original post.

    Originally Posted by Stormreaver View Post
    The current data points in that MF post are not enough to get exact %s. It simply points to a trend or a very general direction.
    As I said in my post, I am almost positive it is linear, simply because it would be so much easier to formulate for Blizz; check my post and graph again.

    Also:
    x3 chars @ 150% MF will have 60% (3x20%) chance of rares (or 55% at the current data points from the MF post).
    x1 char @ 300% MF will have 40% chance of rares.

    55% > 40% .. they are not equal and having the first is much better and possibly cheaper in terms of igg :P
    Buying 3 accounts, leveling them all to 60, and gearing them all for 150%MF is significantly more expensive and resource consuming [time & computer resource] than buying one account, and running one bot at 300%.

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    nice gears...how long does it take to analyze this anyways??

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    Originally Posted by LATM View Post
    feel free to PM me if you want to add me and see my gear. I would ask that you screenshot it all and make a collage like the one JCunit made at the bottom of the original post.



    Buying 3 accounts, leveling them all to 60, and gearing them all for 150%MF is significantly more expensive and resource consuming [time & computer resource] than buying one account, and running one bot at 300%.
    Obviously ... that's why I specifically said "possibly cheaper in terms of igg" :P

    Anyway, my combined gear is at 274% GF and 266% MF atm Expensive but getting there :P
    Last edited by Stormreaver; 07-11-2012 at 01:37 PM.

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    baba gear:


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    damn i am also running 7/24 but it is extremely rare to drop worth to sell item on ah

    i have 293 mf

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    That is some crazy and expensive gear, holy crap!

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    you have to spend money to make money.

    Geared entirely through botting money, and it has paid itself off 10 fold.

    DH still available if anyone wants to add me and make a SS compilation.

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    Hi i have this problem in your graph you show us how you have around 20% drops of yellow but i currently have over 170MF and from like 200 runs i net barely 20 yellows while there nearly 200 blues

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