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  • RIFT Integrates 'Warden' Like Anti-Cheat




    We have been informed by a well-known source that RIFT is currently scanning your computer of all running processes for bots and hacks. At this moment, it is only innocent name-matching, however there is potential for much more malicious activity. Their anti-cheat also checks for loaded modules (DLLs) within the Rift.exe process itself, and scans for one notable, yet legitimate, module that all users should be aware of. Read on to learn more.

    At the moment, Trion is not scanning, or doing anything seriously malicious, however with very small code-changes, this can change drastically. This includes reading the content of any open text window (emails, web page content, more importantly, private information such as SSNs, credit card numbers, etc.), as well as tracking such info. (Please, PLEASE do note; Trion is NOT currently scanning this info, however it is entirely possible) With that said, this does not mean there isn't a huge potential hole in any gamer's security, from a 3rd party source, or Trion themselves.


    We referred to this as a "Warden" like anti-cheat because there were (and still are) major complaints when Blizzard's anti-cheat came to surface.
    [1]Warden was scanning window titles, which could obtain vital information you input into your computer. They no longer do it, as it posed a humungous security risk, which lead to them removing that part of their anti-cheat.


    Trion is currently scanning for a few well known .exe's (the processes) and a few injected modules (dll's) for bots and hacks. One of the injected modules they are searching for, isn't even malicious, or a bot/hack in nature, which can cause a legit users to get banned from their services for no reason at all. The module they scan for? Mscoree.dll. This module is the main .NET library (it is basically the 'required' module to run any .NET based application, or any 'plugin' style module that uses .NET), and as such, is a legit module, which many, many, programs these days use. Including programs that use .NET to create "global hooks" (think of a global hotkey, etc.) However, since they are considering it a 'hack', they will eventually end up banning legit users. You have been warned, make sure you check every program you run to ensure you don't run the risk of getting banned for a legit program.


    They aren't just catching botters and cheaters, but they are actually stepping outside of their own process, and are willing, and able, to scan anything running on your computer.


    Should Trion have that much power? To allow a scanner that can potentially expose you and leave you without the slightest thought of knowing it ever happened? They may be catching botters and cheaters, but at what expense is it okay? Blizzard's Warden may have done this in the past, but they have limited themselves to what it can see and how the information is used. We may live in the 'Information Age' but definitely not the 'Invasion Age'. There will be more to come as we gain more information on the matter, thanks for reading! Let us know what you think on the matter, is it worth it to you? More updates to come.
    This article was originally published in forum thread: RIFT Integrates 'Warden' Like Anti-Cheat started by Dr. Doom View original post
    Comments 11 Comments
    1. EveronMightbane's Avatar
      EveronMightbane -
      I can understand that they don't want people modifying and hacking their game however enabling themselves to scan your whole computer not only seems unnecessary but also a breach of our privacy
    1. Dr. Doom's Avatar
      Dr. Doom -
      That's my opinion on the matter too. Scanning processes is one thing, but to see what I'm viewing? Not cool. And it's not a matter of, "if you have nothing to hide, etc." It's just basic freedoms imo. I know we don't have to play the game if we don't like it, but you know they sneak things in that Term of Use :P Thanks for reading EveronMightbane!
    1. Kibby's Avatar
      Kibby -
      Do we know Blizzard isn't doing this?
    1. Dr. Doom's Avatar
      Dr. Doom -
      They've done it before yes, and I'm pretty sure they still do. Maybe not lurking on your web pages, but they still are touchy feely with their methods
    1. FlairDevil's Avatar
      FlairDevil -
      Dear Trion, PLEASE scan outside the Rift process..... I WANT some of your money!!! =D (and mine back...lol)
    1. zycamzip's Avatar
      zycamzip -
      The article is a little misleading, they aren't scanning outside the process other then to see what's in your computer memory as far as processes and what it's doing towards injected dll's. With code changes, they could do other scans... but they're not. That's the key point.I am all for the scan. I cheat with bugs, not with programs and bots.
    1. Dr. Doom's Avatar
      Dr. Doom -
      If you don't mind me asking zycamzip, how would you know if they're not scanning outside the processes if this isn't public knowledge?
    1. Clovian's Avatar
      Clovian -
      Afaik blizzards warden is just as privacy intrusive as this, and can even access your RAM. I don't think anyone who plays wow should be surprised by Trion doing this.
    1. KuRIoS's Avatar
      KuRIoS -
      Afaik blizzards warden is just as privacy intrusive as this, and can even access your RAM. I don't think anyone who plays wow should be surprised by Trion doing this.
      Actually Blizzard was caught doing this back in 2005 but met so much criticism that they stopped doing it.. BBC NEWS | Technology | Warcraft game maker in spying row
    1. Toxicity999's Avatar
      Toxicity999 -
      This is very misleading; the entire thread reads like this repeatedly:RIFT CAN BE SKYNET(But they aren't right now)TRION IS POISONING YOUR KIDS!(But they aren't right now)Just present the facts, we don't need to know about what-ifs. ANY program could do this.
    1. KuRIoS's Avatar
      KuRIoS -
      TRION are actually scanning your entire system right now, so what do you mean?
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