[Custom Expansion] The pre-changes before xaeron!

[MadameGrip]

looks like slumf owned himself long time ago =D

[schlumpf]

looks like slumf owned himself long time ago =D

I don't see where you make sense there.

[pyriel]

seems liek everytime i see madamegrip posting its either pictures+"im better than all of you" or shit talking someone....

-posting noggit pictures is fine, its a good way to get feedback on your projects
-showing up a month or two ago and immediately spouting off that your better than everyone else is not....esp when all you've managed to accomplish is start a xpac project (couldnt count how many of those ive seen if i tried), which you didnt come even close to releasing (as with the last 9001 "expansion projects" we've seen on this forum)

there are people in the WoW editing scene who know a hell of alot more about it than you, and have earned the respect from the community. there are also people in the editing scene who come from places liek glowing mushroom and nogg-aholic like myself and who have been editing WoW since its release and are content to sit at low rep and post count because they choose not to post pictures or releases.

just because you have the loudest voice and the most pictures in the thread does not mean your right, or that anyone wants to deal with egotism.


tldr: stfu an sit down

[2dgreengiant]

Yay back to the goold old days of ME'ers figihting each other for useless things Brings back memories.

[sitnspinlock]

seems liek everytime i see madamegrip posting its either pictures+"im better than all of you" or shit talking someone....

-posting noggit pictures is fine, its a good way to get feedback on your projects
-showing up a month or two ago and immediately spouting off that your better than everyone else is not....esp when all you've managed to accomplish is start a xpac project (couldnt count how many of those ive seen if i tried), which you didnt come even close to releasing (as with the last 9001 "expansion projects" we've seen on this forum)

there are people in the WoW editing scene who know a hell of alot more about it than you, and have earned the respect from the community. there are also people in the editing scene who come from places liek glowing mushroom and nogg-aholic like myself and who have been editing WoW since its release and are content to sit at low rep and post count because they choose not to post pictures or releases.

just because you have the loudest voice and the most pictures in the thread does not mean your right, or that anyone wants to deal with egotism.


tldr: stfu an sit down

this pretty much sums it up.

not trying to shoot down your little project madamegrip, but boasting, thats just sad lol.

I probably have 3 rep, but i also built my own emulator from scratch, yes ive kept it at 1.12.1 but its a personal project. as for schlumpf, i hadnt had any previous knowledge of the madx wiki until i found this guy. most of the entries are from him and its obvious he has a great many brain cells lewl. most of the script kiddies that hang out here wouldnt be able to scrounge up nasty little hacks if it wasnt for his and other peoples contribution, the type of people that dont seek fame or fortune in reverse engineering. we just do it for fun, and learning.

yet here you are using other peoples software to create something and label it yours. they made it ez mode for you lol, its just a few clicks.

btw, no one cares.

[MadameGrip]

Some people certainly do not read at all, please leave this section. And do not return untill you've learned to read. Ciao

[Demonshade]

seems liek everytime i see madamegrip posting its either pictures+"im better than all of you" or shit talking someone....

-posting noggit pictures is fine, its a good way to get feedback on your projects
-showing up a month or two ago and immediately spouting off that your better than everyone else is not....esp when all you've managed to accomplish is start a xpac project (couldnt count how many of those ive seen if i tried), which you didnt come even close to releasing (as with the last 9001 "expansion projects" we've seen on this forum)

there are people in the WoW editing scene who know a hell of alot more about it than you, and have earned the respect from the community. there are also people in the editing scene who come from places liek glowing mushroom and nogg-aholic like myself and who have been editing WoW since its release and are content to sit at low rep and post count because they choose not to post pictures or releases.

just because you have the loudest voice and the most pictures in the thread does not mean your right, or that anyone wants to deal with egotism.


tldr: stfu an sit down

Some people certainly do not read at all, please leave this section. And do not return untill you've learned to read. Ciao

Rofl didn't take you long to prove his point. So you can use the tools given to you by others? Hot shit. Schlumpf and many other ppl did alot of work to make those tools and they understand model editing much better then you. Hell, you were even shit talking Schlumpf in the noggit thread when without that tool you wouldn't be able to do shit. You are what i call ungrateful. The model editing community was based off of individuals taking out time of their day to take the knowledge of the programmers and reverse engineers and make them into easy to use tools free of charge for the general public, if the community was full of people like you model editing would have died long ago. People have raised valid points and you just ignore or dismiss them. What you might mistake for sassy attitude is what others see as ignorance, just keep that in mind.

[schlumpf]

-- This post was referring to a deleted post by madame grip saying, others would not be amused if I claimed all credit for Noggit.



Also, I'm not taking full credit. Also, there is not one single person having made it work properly. Also, they are not pissed off by me taking credit for things. (Actually, I had a great lunch with Steff just two days ago.)

You may want to be less insulting, actually continue on this project you started four days ago and show your progress instead of claiming that its just the beginning and telling people to get out of your thread.

Moving to facebook is a good idea though. Please completely move there.

[Bjarke]

Even tho you might not like the developers, then you should at least have a little respect for them, they are the reason your where you are now.
And i must agree with them, it would be nice to see a little more effort in your edits before posting them to the public.

[BaddyMcBad]

After seeing how she communicates in this thread, I definitely wouldn't want to be working for her.

[MadameGrip]

Bjarke, word! And that hsould count to everyone

[BanzBoyz77]

This arguement has been going on forever. So I'll count in on it. Madame Grip is completely right about Demonshade's comment on the first page and the second. I really don't have any respect to people who just bring back alpha maps cause they are alpha. They are worthless. To me, model editing consists of reskins, world builds, model edits, model swaps and model imports. In those listed, alpha map swaping doesn't fit. So if anything, the alpha map posters shouldn't be part of the model editing scene. Madame Grip has provided us with many nice builds ( Texturing needs work, but otherwise good) and the alpha map community has just provided us buggy alpha maps. And posting Noggit pics is perfectly fine, I do it too. It's one of my methods of continuing on a project and maybe along the way teach others how to world build with the pics going from plain one texture ground to half textured ground to half built area to fully built and eventually in-game. So really Demonshade's, if your going to talk about respect take it somewhere else cause no one here has respect for Alpha Map crap.

[sirfranc]

I do respect Eluo as a great model editor, but she's right, being a good model editor won't make you in the position to troll to people, she is posting WIP (as i do too, got problems? first screens of lordaeron highlands were around 2 adts only and barely shaped, but feedback is feedback) and she's free to.
In any case Xaeron has developed a lot and i saw myself a massive amount of landscape (way more than lot of people posted) and all of good quality, and sorry for being arrogant, i know something of model editing (even without fancy tags) and i can say i know what i do.

"the model editing scene" <> your weird projects. Thxkkbye.

Meh, this is one of the most lame feedbacks ever, i am kind of disappoint to be honest.

To be honest i always expceted a bit more form both Eluo and Shlumpf, i could have expected trolling from Azo.. but at least Eluo is really a nice person.. usually.

EDIT: i read now the second page, and on this i must say that MadameGrip got a bit out of control, and well, offending to defend is not a good way to go
Shclumpf (or how is spelled.. sorry) has did a great deal to model editing creating Noggit along with other stuff, Eluo pratically taught me how to use alpha maps to generate massive amount of professional landscape (even tough i should start using it on actual edits.. meh)
She didn't boasted, to be honest, she has an ambitious project and until recently she had all the dedication and power necessary to go on. I'm not supposed to talk about that and is not your buisness, but just know that many things went the wrong way and she had to drop Xaeron.. temporarly.

[dasde]

temporarly.

Lets goddamm hope so, this project has been one of the most awesome projects I've seen around.

[Eluo]

Well i'd like to clarify one thing:
My post never was intended to be offending.
I know that she can do much better, but in my eyes this post was like a insult into everyones face to post a 5min edit just to present herself as still active.
What i wrote is my honest opinion , and i will not take it back. Posting stuff like this as an experianced editor is just ridiculous. Sorry.
These were my last words on this.