and by that i mean its going to be the shittiest thing anyone's ever seen, the main point being -- theres going to be roads from verdant fields to emerald forest, this is going to take a while especially w. my job, but ill get it done and post it, ill put up picks soon as well, later guys. ( and yes, this will go further than poor old gilijim's, but hey, ill throw a random ass island where it was just to make myself feel better =/ .... and a Q thrown in here, can you add objects while in nogg? or just change terrain and existing objects? thanks ahead of time --- AZO