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[Mudkip]

Thanks so far for the suggestions for improving, this guide ought to be a good one, so I'm happy if I get more suggestions.

I'm leveling a priest myself now, and have to say, that 2-3 drinks are enough. Just bubble holy shock (i'm 24 atm ^^)

Low lvl's doesn't need that much water yeah, but if you're lvl ~40 or something like this it should be a pain in the ass without water, I'll fix that

Suggestions to Change - 1 - It's Frost Mage, not Icemage which you have got wrong many times 2 - Some of your views on a recommended spec are a little strange to me, I would tend to give people advice on speccing, not saying that they should spec like this

1 - KK, I'll edit frost and icemage but when we're on my server talking about a frost/Icemage, we say icemage, but np, will be fixed
2 - My builds in section 1) are ony ideas for the beginning, where to put the points in general, and in 2) you find a full skilled tree, hmm I think the buildsystem is quite fine

Edit: Replaced ice with frost
Edit²: Fixed the Priest thingy!

A shadowpriest makes a lot of fun, you can own everything what passes your way, but he need nearly as much water as the moonkin does... Make sure you've got more than 40 Water ( I used 60, rebuyed when I reached 20 ) with you, well, low-lvl priest doesn't need that much water but if you reach lvl ~40+ you should have enough, otherwise it will be a pain in the ass.

[Christian1]

I totally disagree on the rogue part.. Sure some quests (like dugeon quests where you can skip alot of mobs by stealth) but this isn't always the case..
Rogues are having a hard time..

[Mudkip]

I totally disagree on the rogue part.. Sure some quests (like dugeon quests where you can skip alot of mobs by stealth) but this isn't always the case..
Rogues are having a hard time..

Playing mine was a piece of cake.

[Tenni-T]

I disagree on the hunter PvE spec.. BM is indeed the best spec for DMG in end-game raiding atm.. I would suggest

World of Warcraft Europe -> Talents

- This is THE dmg spec if you want to maximize your raid performance..!
You will have to gather alot of attackpower, and remember to use your kill command everytime. (Easy to do with a macro).
- The 4/5 frenzy should be enough to keep it up close to 100% of the time.

This is a classic raid build, and noone have ever failed to climb high on the DMG Meters with this one!

BTW, if the other hunters from your guild have 5/5 imp. hunters mark, you could drop those points into efficiency instead to make you last longer before running oom! I just have it cause my guild requires me to.

<3 Tenned.

[Mudkip]

I disagree on the hunter PvE spec.. BM is indeed the best spec for DMG in end-game raiding atm.. I would suggest

World of Warcraft Europe -> Talents

- This is THE dmg spec if you want to maximize your raid performance..!
You will have to gather alot of attackpower, and remember to use your kill command everytime. (Easy to do with a macro).
- The 4/5 frenzy should be enough to keep it up close to 100% of the time.

This is a classic raid build, and noone have ever failed to climb high on the DMG Meters with this one!

BTW, if the other hunters from your guild have 5/5 imp. hunters mark, you could drop those points into efficiency instead to make you last longer before running oom! I just have it cause my guild requires me to.

<3 Tenned.

My guild talked about what's better in PvE, we skilled one hunter BM and the other this DMG-Build I've posted ( don't know what it's in english^^ ) and we raided Karazhan with these 2 hunters... The BM had 5% less dmg than the other, so we thought skilling like I've posted is better. But I'll add your build there.

[Cakewalk]

My guild talked about what's better in PvE, we skilled one hunter BM and the other this DMG-Build I've posted ( don't know what it's in english^^ ) and we raided Karazhan with these 2 hunters... The BM had 5% less dmg than the other, so we thought skilling like I've posted is better. But I'll add your build there.

Probably cause your guildmembers are (sorry) retarded and uses damage meters without merged pets. Either that or the BM hunter needs a big L2P

[Ferag]

Many things wrong here, your warrior end game talents are screwed, and MS is the best once you hit 40, before that, 2h fury with imp slam and a swing timer. Other than that, I can't say, but nice guide overall, you put lots of work into it, +reputation.

[Mudkip]

We've used damage meters WITH petdmg, swstats or something like that

[Mudkip]

and MS is the best once you hit 40, before that, 2h fury with imp slam and a swing timer.

Yeah, that might be right ( I leveled mine also with MS, but it was my first char and I was a newb ) but I think fury is even better, period.

your warrior end game talents are screwed

Which of 'em do you mean ? They're quite fine I think...
1. PvP MS Build There's nothing wrong, 100%. You don't need imp charge in Arena, eh?
2. PvE DMG Build Yeah, there can be changed some things, but it depends on you, I think you can make the most dmg with that build
3. PvE Def Build This is an 'other' defbuild. But it's the best, I'm sure since tanking isn't only making aggro... you need to last the dmg, and you can decrease FUKKIN MUCH dmg by skilling imp thunderclap ( it works on every mob/boss ). Really, I used that build for a long time and it was better than every other defbuild.

nice guide overall, you put lots of work into it, +reputation.

thanks

[Tenni-T]

My guild talked about what's better in PvE, we skilled one hunter BM and the other this DMG-Build I've posted ( don't know what it's in english^^ ) and we raided Karazhan with these 2 hunters... The BM had 5% less dmg than the other, so we thought skilling like I've posted is better. But I'll add your build there.

Sorry man, but you have had 1 crappy BM hunter right there then! Thanks for adding my spec though.

<3 Tenned.

[Mudkip]

Sorry man, but you have had 1 crappy BM hunter right there then!

True story. xD Nah, serious, he's a nap.

[chuxfm]

hey man thnx for the guide. I like it and sure there are going to be a few flaws being a guide to every class and all. But its cool to see a guide that you compiled from what works in your experience. And you can't knock someone who put a few hours in just to help you guys out :P

[Trustdale]

It's Frost Mage, not Icemage

well.. you did understand that he ment frostmage, rite? :P

[Mudkip]

Originally Posted by Diminished
It's Frost Mage, not Icemage


well.. you did understand that he ment frostmage, rite? :P

That's what I thought, too. Even if this guide isn't written in the best english, you shouldn't have problems to understand what I mean

[gnomercy]

looks quite nice, but if your other opinions are as ****ed up as the locks its kinda useless =/

The "sl/sl" spec is all wrong, personal opinon, but lots of talents are in the wrong place, and theres no CoEX, which is possibly THE best talent for arena.
your "pve-damage-machine" spec is shit 5/34/22 isn't really that good, for pve damage 0/21/40 would be the best no questions asked. talents in wrong place.
and your "pvp damage" spec seems sort of ok.