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    Timewalking God MM - BM BiS

    This is a guide for MM and BM hunters BiS in timewalking Dungeons
    I've posted BiS guides before for MM spec, but since then after testing and alot of searching i've made a new list, and also for the BM spec.


    For MM i use 125 WoD food buff- For BM i use 125 mastery food, MoP agi flasks and potions. Agi rune ofcourse.
    Also i use Heroism drums in case we dont have a Heroism in the group.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    The MM spec i found, is best in random groups to progress fast and do tons of damage,
    On average i did around 12-13k overall dps around 50-85% of party damage.

    MM BiS:

    Weapon: Taoren, the Soul Burner WoD multistrike enchant
    Head: Yaungol Slayer's Headguard Either use Legendary WoD gem or Thundering Skyfire
    Neck: Necklace of the Deep WoD Multistrike enchant
    Shoulders: Yaungol Slayer's Spaulders Agi/crit enchant
    Back: Fen-Yu, Fury of Xuen WoD multistrike enchant
    Chest: Wyrmstalker's Tunic 9 to all stats enchant
    Bracers: Bracers of the Hunter-Killer 16 agi enchant
    Gloves: Wyrmstalker's Gloves 18 agi enchant
    Waist: Belt of Dragons Eternal belt buckle
    Legs: Wyrmscale Greaves agi/crit enchant
    Boots: Star-Strider Boots 11 agi enchant
    Ring1: Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance WoD multistrike enchant
    Ring2: Spellbound Runic Band of Unrelenting Slaughter WoD multistrike enchant
    Trinket1: Mirror of the Blademaster
    trinket2: Ghost Iron Dragonling

    Use as many agi/crit gems as possible and full crit gems aslong as you dont lose the socket bonuses,
    buffed with all buffs including food you should have a passive 23% multistrike and 50% crit,

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    The BM spec is specialized in AoE damage, and therefull more usefull in combination with BiS tanks, which do 2-4 pulls per dungeon, gets all mobs around a corner and just
    Nuke it all down. in seconds.. This is for serious speed farming.

    BM BiS:

    Weapon: Taoren, the Soul Burner WoD mastery Scope
    Head: Deadly Retinal Armor 27 Mastery Meta gem also a 38 and 42 mastery cogwheel gem
    Neck: Necklace of the Deep Mastery enchant
    Shoulders: Wyrmstalker's Spaulders Agi/crit enchant
    Back: Fen-Yu, Fury of Xuen Mastery enchant
    Chest: Wyrmstalker's Tunic 9 to all stats enchant
    Bracers: Bracers of the Hunter-Killer 16 agi enchant
    Gloves: Wyrmstalker's Gloves 25 mastery enchant
    Waist: Belt of Dragons Eternal Belt buckle
    Legs: Wyrmstalker's Legguards agi/crit enchant
    Boots: Star-Strider Boots 11 agi enchant
    Ring1: Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance Mastery enchant
    Ring2: Spellbound Runic Band of Unrelenting Slaughter mastery enchant
    Trinket1: Mirror of the Blademaster
    trinket2: Ghost Iron Dragonling 3x Crit Cogwheel gems


    Timing an AoE burst in BM spec goes like this,

    Potion drums Focus fire> arcane shot(to make 4 set bonus proc) then Mirror of blademaster Bestial wrath Multishot> Barrage. Keep beast cleave up etc... It can be good to use a few Bombs to aoe interupt spell casting.. it may safe your tanks life. Good bombs are Tinker Bomb enchant on belt. Cobalt frag bomb. and High-Powered Bolt Gun from engi.

    I've never been out Dpsed!, so its proof this is some serious gear!

    Enjoy guys, Blessings


    PS: let me know if you have a way to improve this BiS list.
    Last edited by Niek; 04-04-2016 at 07:15 AM. Reason: Broke my BiS list, so renewing it.

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    Time walker is serious business

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    Originally Posted by arenawarrior View Post
    Time walker is serious business
    the quoted reply contributes nothing to the post, and belittles OP for their work and effort.

    congratulations on being cancerous to ownedcores communitybase.

    +max rep to op + thanks just because the quoted response rubbed me the wrong way.


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    Timewalking Dungeons ARE serious business. Because For the first time in WoW, for over 11 years of playing I finaly get a chanse to show off all my hard work of the past. This Dungeon Event doesnt seem like much with average rewards, But trying to BiS this is way harder then the current max level content raids. With about 20 times more gear to choose from and every enchant/gem and Set bonus ingame nearly. If you like Twinking, this is the ultimate twink oportunity, sadly just for dungeons but still! It takes alot of knowledge of all of WoW to gear for this, And i love it! Cheers
    Thx for the rep guys <3

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    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    the quoted reply contributes nothing to the post, and belittles OP for their work and effort.

    congratulations on being cancerous to ownedcores communitybase.

    +max rep to op + thanks just because the quoted response rubbed me the wrong way.
    Yah, I -repped him. Posting stuff like that leads to the community dying out because no one wants to share things with toxic people (even if what they said was originally intended to be in a joking manner, text doesn't come across like that). Even though I don't play WoW atm this is still super cool to see people finding newer and better ways to blaze through Timewalking dungeons. Just because something isn't super useful to you or you might not find it interesting, doesn't mean it's like that for everyone. +7 @OP for this, pretty neat stuff.

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    the quoted response rubbed me the wrong way.

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    For non engineer, is there better options for BM?

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    Nice post, very detailed. Max rep.
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    Non Engi

    Originally Posted by xbihx View Post
    For non engineer, is there better options for BM?

    Hello, For non Engi in BM i would go for Wyrmstalker's Headguard instead of Wyrmstalker's Tunic, and use Rift Stalker Hauberk as a chest piece. since it has very high Agi compared to Stamina,
    Also i would use a mastery meta gem over the legendary meta gem in BM spec (since your main focus should be AoE damage.) Also instead of the Ghost iron Dragonling trinket i would use the best On use Agi trinket which is Ruthless Gladiator's Badge of Conquest, some on use multistrike WoD trinket with a socket in it might be better though but its close, Chipped Soul Prism with a socket in it also has very high passive stats in timewalking, if you like to be passively stronger instead of burst dmg.
    good luck!

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    What are best choices for MM if you don't use engineering items?

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    Hi, well for MM the only Engi thing you use is the Ghost iron dragonling trinket, so you can use anything you like, I will recomend some trinkets that i found to be very nice,However i didnt nearly try out all trinkets ingame, but i have viewed and thought about probably all trinkets ingame. collected the ones with most promise and tested them.
    Ruthless Gladiator's Badge of Conquest
    Skyguard Silver Cross
    Lucky Double-Sided Coin
    And probably the best burst trinket if it has a socket for MM is Beating Heart of the Mountain
    Because of MoP potion gives a ton of Agi, that combined with more agi is not very usefull, but using it with a multistrike trinket increases your damage hugely!
    Good luck!

    And ofcourse i should also mention the Mandatory trinket in every spec is ofcourse Mirror of the Blademaster This trinket is by far the best, with a socket even more so!
    Last edited by Niek; 04-04-2016 at 02:35 AM.

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    Since you have engineering, why not use Deadly Retinal Armor with Agile Primal Diamond and Rigid Cogwheel + Smooth Cogwheel? It seems like it would be better than anything else you can get in the helm slot.

    For non-engineers, Wyrmscale Greaves are a very solid off piece for pants also.
    Last edited by larathiel; 04-04-2016 at 05:56 AM.

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    Originally Posted by larathiel View Post
    Since you have engineering, why not use Deadly Retinal Armor with Agile Primal Diamond and Rigid Cogwheel + Smooth Cogwheel? It seems like it would be better than anything else you can get in the helm slot.

    For non-engineers, Wyrmscale Greaves are a very solid off piece for pants also.
    Having both Deadly retinal armor and the leggings equipped would make you miss out on the increased 15% damage to chimeara shot, and chimeara shot being like 35-42% of total dmg done will be a big loss, also losing the Legendary meta gem which also does around 2.5% total dmg was the reason i didnt go for Deadly retinal armor, also because i already use 3 out of 4 crit cogwheel gems in my Ghost iron Dragonling trinket.

    However it might be worth it dropping Wyrmstalker's Legguards. for Wyrmscale Greaves, and change Gloves of Quickening with Wyrmstalker's Gloves.

    This is how it looks in Stats in TBC dungeons:
    (i count a socket as 10 agi)
    wyrmstalker's Legguards + Gloves of Quickening :84 agi 25 crit 12 haste 7 mastery +1 agi + 4 crit
    Wyrmscale Greaves + Wyrmstalker's Gloves : 83 agi 21 crit 27 haste 8 mastery + 15 haste + 1 mastery


    This means you broke my BiS list! Thanks alot for that i'll be getting new legs! and will update this list asap. Cheers ! I was hoping for someone to do it! <3
    Last edited by Niek; 04-05-2016 at 04:09 AM. Reason: Wrong Calculations

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    Ah, I did not know there was a limit to cogwheels but my thinking was you would just swap to another piece of yaungol's to keep the set bonus if you used the helm. I figured the extra stats from the coghweels may outweigh the legendary gem since it doesn't do that much damage overall (I've seen about 4-5% at best). However, then you'd need to use another trinket, but I prefer on-use ones myself for extra burst on bosses. The Lucky Double Sided Coin is really nice. I'd say it's second best below the Kromog trinket. I don't have engineering so I can't try any of the cogwheel setups.
    Last edited by larathiel; 04-04-2016 at 02:58 PM.

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    Heya, ive checked out the differences and it pretty close check it out.

    wyrmstalker's legguards: 48 agi - 11 crit - 7 mastery
    Yaungol Slayer's gloves: 15 agi - 9 crit -11 haste
    Deadly retinal armor: 24 agi -30 crit - 42 haste (30 crit and 42 haste from cogwheel sockets because i already use 2x 42 crit and 1x 30 crit in my dragonling trinket)
    Agile Primal Diamond: 14 agi and 3% more crit damage.

    Total:101 agi -50 crit - 53 haste - 7 mastery and 3% increased crit damage.

    Wyrmscale Greaves: 59 agi - 14 crit - 17 haste - 8 mastery
    Wyrmstalker's Gloves: 24 agi - 7 crit - 10 haste
    yaungol slayer's headguard: 31 agi - 9 crit - 10 mastery
    Capacitive Primal diamond: 20 crit and about 3% total damage done from proc.

    Total:114 agi -50 crit - 27 haste - 18 mastery and about 3% increased total damage( varies from 2 to 5% total damage done from meta gem)

    in my opinion i would still take the BiS list i've written down here,
    but its still pretty close.
    And really OP either way in timewalking,

    anyways have fun!

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