Very nice spot to farm Trasmog items , and even wool and silk cloth sells decent on my server !
Not much time here to farm except old raids (for mounts mostly) but + rep from me !
Thanks for the Rep bro!
Glad u like it!
Originally Posted by lembas
I'm reading all those replies here and I'm wondering, are people here too stupid to understand what does LIV and realm dependant mean? Also, don't you understand what RNG mean? Just because you went there and farmed for one hour, and looted 500G you have no right to say that this spot is bad. Go and farm there for 100hrs and then tell us what your average LIV is. Also, what is the point in whining about "on my realm transmog is not selling, this spot is bad"? Well then, create a character on a realm when transmog sells well and farm there for mounts or pets or just for gametime. If you don't like that idea then move to guides about raw gold.
This spot might be good for some people, might be bad for some people, but atleast Umren tries to help everyone with his guides. Also don't say that he is spoiling those places. Those drops are RNG, and just because there are spots like this one, doesn't mean that people will loot hundreds of glorious items per hour. And even if they did, lets face it. Usually only gold farmers go and farm this stuff. People who buy those items usually don't want to waste their time farming and therefore they buy it. Just because there is several places more to farm, doesn't mean that there will be more gold farmers just for those places, and to be honest it doesn't really mean that there will be much more items present on ah. It might ofcourse increase the number slightly at the beginning, but in the long term it probably won't really matter.
Enough said my friend. Clever thinking
Cheers for the understanding and people like you is why I am still motivated to contribute
Really big thanks!
I am going to watch Netflix and run this spot for an hour. My macro gets stuck on the random wind rider so I lose some sappers as they run by so I am probably 80% efficient here...will post back the results.
I'm reading all those replies here and I'm wondering, are people here too stupid to understand what does LIV and realm dependant mean? Also, don't you understand what RNG mean? Just because you went there and farmed for one hour, and looted 500G you have no right to say that this spot is bad. Go and farm there for 100hrs and then tell us what your average LIV is. Also, what is the point in whining about "on my realm transmog is not selling, this spot is bad"? Well then, create a character on a realm when transmog sells well and farm there for mounts or pets or just for gametime. If you don't like that idea then move to guides about raw gold.
This spot might be good for some people, might be bad for some people, but atleast Umren tries to help everyone with his guides. Also don't say that he is spoiling those places. Those drops are RNG, and just because there are spots like this one, doesn't mean that people will loot hundreds of glorious items per hour. And even if they did, lets face it. Usually only gold farmers go and farm this stuff. People who buy those items usually don't want to waste their time farming and therefore they buy it. Just because there is several places more to farm, doesn't mean that there will be more gold farmers just for those places, and to be honest it doesn't really mean that there will be much more items present on ah. It might ofcourse increase the number slightly at the beginning, but in the long term it probably won't really matter.
I think its the idea of LIV that bothers me personally, cos if you really give it a thought, its complete bs. most of LIV videos with xxx k g / hour super duper hype titles are intentially misleading and made for clickwhoring.. there can be exceptions but like Umren himself stated its marketing psychology to attract ppl to watch the video
Asmongold - Discussing Fake and Misleading Gold Farming Guides:
that video does raise good points. guides talking about looted item value require there to be people willing to pay for your items. if no one will buy them before the auction fees outcost the items sale value, you've essentially lost time and money.
the guy in the video says this which i love
"do you think you could hit gold cap in a day killing lv30 tauren? i dont think so." and thats great.
im not knocking the spot, those who choose to sell Tmog for gold, or the op in general, but i see this as something you might do once a month, then spend the month trying to sell the green transmog items that dropped.
- This place provides me from minimum 10k Looted Item Value to maximum of 51k LIV in 1 hour... but that is not a rule... you might get 5k to 100k... it's dependable on servers and how the RNG gods will like you that day.
- This gold or LIV (Looted Item Value) that you gonna farm... won't be instant gold.. you need after that to sell all that crap and for that to sell depends on server might take 1 day, 1 week, 1 month or even 1 year.
People STILL complain they aren't getting rich. I've seen about 10 of your guides now and most are RNG based guides and I haven't gold capped off of your advice, but they are good bits of ADVICE nonetheless. Fact is, it worked for a few people who seem to be happy about it and imo as long as you've helped out a single person it makes the post worthwhile. Piss on whiners
I actually spent 8mins of my time and watched the video you provided, and I'm also going to follow my previous message - this guy is talking like he knows shit but in fact he doesn't. First of all, the probability he talks is not zero. Ofc its not very high, but there is a small chance that you will loot 10 glorious pieces going for 100k each and that there will be some people looking for that in the exact same day, which gives it a higher than 0 chance. But that is not really the problem here.
The first thing that is said in most cases in most of videos, atleast Umren ones, is that this is Looted item value. And as everyone knows, looted item value is server dependant, the same goes for like everything in wow. This is probably the biggest point of looted item value, but still, people like you or like the guy on the video go to the mentioned spot on a server where noone buys any transmog and whines that on his server those items are worth nothing. The pure fact that people still farm transmog and that on some servers some of those items really sell for high price prooves that the looted item value, although not always the same for every realm, is in fact true for some realms.
The next thing is, noone says that you will go and have 100k per hour there. Even in the title, it is said that the looted item value ranges from 10-120k, where 10k is probably easy to obtain, while 120k was the max that the person creating the tutorial heard of or obtained by himself. This is another very important part of LIV which is that LIV is RNG dependant. Sometimes you loot nothing of value, sometimes you loot hundreds of thousands in an hour. Hell, some people could go there for a minute and loot item worth more, than some people will farm for weeks and wont loot even half of it. That is the meaning of random.
Another thing is the ability to sell stuff. Ofcourse some transmogs will not sell for a long time, some will sell immediately, Ofcourse it is completely realm dependant, but once again, if this shit sells for high prices on some realms, it means that it works. Items are worth the amount people are willing to pay for it. It is similar to almost every part of our lives. Take art as example, some people will never buy expensive art, but some people are ready to kill for it. The same goes for wow items, and what not.
Next, you are talking about high prices being a clickbait. Ofcourse you might look at it this way, but how exactly should people name their videos if not with the item value? The only legit way to call them would be in completely raw gold (without bags, dusts, anything that is not sellable to vendor, as prices on ah differ from realm to realm), but then, isn't it kind of not fair? On spot like this, raw gold would be like 500g/h at most, but there is still a possibility that you will loot an item worth 100k, wouldn't that be lying but from the other side of the coin?
And the last thing. You are talking about possibility of excess amounts of xmog on ah, This is once again the matter of RNG, just because you can loot an item on a spot, the chance is that you will farm many hours before you loot it. Just because there is one more spot of that kind, doesn't really change the fact that those items are still rare, nor does it increase the amount of gold farmers
I really don't get people like you or the guy in the video. Is your ad revenue from your videos smaller, or you are jellous that someone is earning more than you in hour or farming, or how exactly does it hurt you? I only hear complains about LIV from people playing on realms where transmog doesn't sell well, or from people who have really bad luck. And I would understand you if I saw that each of those videos were complete bullshit, but they are not. There are so many examples of people who only farm LIV spots and are making hundreds of thousands of gold from them, yet you go on and on how LIV is bad and how "you were there and looted items worth max 500gold on YOUR REALM".
I tried this spot for 6 times in the last 3 days for 10 mins or less each & got 1 or 2 greens each time worth around 100g to 150g each. The issue I had with farming this spot is that in around 10 mins of being there 5 or 6 horde show up and start tea bagging me like crazy. Farming that spot I have received more nuts in my face then a $2 dollar hooker. But that's not the worse of it the greens that dropped are not in demand (or at least not on my server) & will probably be re posted on the ah several times for the next few months before getting sold. I did the farm on a mm hunter on a pvp server so I doubt it really matter how far or close I was when killing them because Im pretty sure that being on a pvp server I was flagged no matter what. There are much better farms out there that are better to spend your time on that will result in faster & easier gold. Thanks for the guide Umren but it wasn't for me but I think it would be a decent guide for pve roleplay servers.
I did try this spot on my druid the night after he posted the guide. I spent about and hour or so and ended up mostly with vendor stuff, a couple of greens and about 8 savory delight recipes.
I can't remember the exakt time I did the farming but it was sometime late night and I did not have any problems with any horde characters even if my server is almost 50/50 A/H, there was a couple of low level horde who almost perished from my starfall but none did re-log to a higher level char to kill me. Think they could tell I was farming mobs and not gunning for them so guess they didn't care.
Playing on an Medium pop sever in Europe and transmog doesn't sell at all on my sever and neither does savory delight recipe, I'm sitting on shit loads of low level blue/epic and couple of greens that is valued between 200-800G each that I been trying to sell for a month now.
Think ill hold on to them until Legion and when more people know about the transmog changes coming, hopefully prices will be up by then as well.
I actually spent 8mins of my time and watched the video you provided, and I'm also going to follow my previous message
Thanks for your long Reply mate... I see that you know what you are talking and that you completely understand the point of LIV. Cheers for explaining to those who find it hard to understand
Originally Posted by Jaladhjin
How are you getting Trashcan even usable ? Hasn't been updated in years..
It is mostly based on Item ID, and the interface / functions are very simple, so it doesn't belong to category of "un-usable if not updated". It works like charm for me to be honest... how about u?
Originally Posted by SirUberNoobCore
Thanks for the guide Umren but it wasn't for me but I think it would be a decent guide for pve roleplay servers.
Don't worry mate... I know that, not every of my guides will be suitable for everyone. As I mention in many of my videos, some guides are server dependant, some are player dependant... some are just about personal preference, like someone who adores Goblins and don't wanna kill them... might find this guide not likeable for him Cheers !
Originally Posted by [LT]
Think ill hold on to them until Legion and when more people know about the transmog changes coming, hopefully prices will be up by then as well.
Yeah... Keeping some transmog for Legion, for when Wardrobe is out, is quite smart in cases where u cannot sell them now, for proper price. I am keeping hundreds of transmogs myself... but only time will show Cheers for the tip to the people about that!