NEWEST WOD Edition: The Ultimate Guide To Selling Your Drops For INSANE Profits PT 3

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Guide Start: This guide is the ultimate guide to selling your farm for insane profits, revisited and fully updated for WOD.
If you missed the first, then this one will catch you up to speed, with percision far greater than it's predecessors. It has only
1 purpose - To make you insane profits. It'll give you enough ammunition to take you from selling barely drops, to selling thousands of golds in BOE’s & Trade Goods every single day, simply
by farming and auctioning. But we won't just be farming and auctioning. We'll us the most up to date goldmaking tactics to put you far ahead of the scale.

Simply putting this guide to work will allow you to make much more gold than those without it.

It really is a gamechanger. Lets get started.





To achieve these results we'll address the biggest issues in the farming community, and aims to take players from one end of the gold making spectrum to the other- with practical actionable advice. If you skim through it, you may come up with a few hidden gems, however if read from start to finish (with intent to implement) I can just about guarantee you, that you’ll make far more gold than the rest of the farming population.

As it’s what I teach when I consult & write gold guides for players who are willing to pay for them.

It's purpose is to show you how to make thousands of gold, using a complete well-oiled auction house system thats designed to make you profits. In total this guide is all about automating the goldmaking process. If you haven't heard of TSM, or do not know how auctioneers are able to post thousands of items in just minutes (resulting in huge profits) then this guide will likely be the most important piece of goldmaking content you have ever read.

But don't let me toot my own horn, here's some feedback from just few of the hundreds of users who ave tried and made major profits with the previous version.



This Gigantic Post Will Teach You:

• How to sell your farmed BOE items for what players call the “inflated tooltip price”

• Why Splitting your time 50/50 between the AH and your farming spot(s) is far superior than the Traditional 80/20 Farm to AH split. (And how to go about doing this yourself)

• Why adding diversity to your farm profile will make you more gold, even if there’s a current farm that “trumps them all”

• How you can post your auctions up to 10x faster. Far faster than the general population who only seem to know of auctioneer & auctionator as the only auction house add-ons available.

• Why players claim a farm is “10,000g per Hour when in reality most people only make 1,000g or so. If not much less.

• How to set up TSM and auction hundreds of trade goods at insane speeds AND properly price / post each one.

• Add-on configuring so that no matter what item you come across, you can sell it instantly, with 0 hassle. Just go to the AH and let a few addon's slave away for you.

• Why players claim a farm is “10,000g per Hour when in reality most people only make 1,000g or so. If not much less.

And Most Importantly..

• The underlying thinking process that separates two types of farming players: “The Casual Farmer & The Dedicated Auctioneer.” The mystery behind why one type of player seems sell farm drops for insane prices while the others collects scraps…

So What Happens When I Understand This?

It’ll take you from just “praying” that your farm drops sell into “knowing” without a doubt that they’ll all eventually go (and make huge profits for you), so that the time you spent farming, is never spent in vain.

After you understand this guide, you will make far more profits and cut down on auctioning times drastically. Any player, anywhere who decides to use this system rather than the vanilla way of auctioning drops will be far ahead of the pack.

We’ll go over how you can get your greens to sell for the tooltip prices, WHY it seems that only some players can sell them for that much, and what you can do right now to get the same results.

As a bonus, we’ll go over the two farming archetypes that all players fall into. As I explain them, you’ll probably be able to identify yourself with one or the other. Of course there are many shades of gray, but for the most part, players usually fall on the extreme of both terms. But enough speculation, lets get into it!
Casual Farmer or Dedicated Auctioneer [Theory Before The Technical Stuff]



Right now ill state that the dedicated auctioneers makes much more gold than the casual farmer by nature.

Most of you reading this will no doubt relate with the casual farmer. Hopefully by the end of this post, you’d made the decision to change that.

Casual Farmers: As their name implies, tend to be more casual players. Regardless of the ill associations with the word, being “casual” isn’t the reason why they make less gold with farm drops. The lack of understanding the auction house is. Casual Farmers usually have enough time to make thousands of gold pretty easily, in the same amount of time their already spending on WoW. For them the real problem is knowing how, and actually believing it’s possible.

Which is difficult for them, since casual farmers usually have habits that sabotage their gold making.. such as:

• Sticking to a single farm until the nerf hammer hits it.

• Farming a spot to the point of over-saturation.

• Having cynical views towards various AH based tooltips in defense that they’re “inflated.” (Because Of course, green drops can never sell for that high, especially not on their server)

And the most important 2:

• Selling items far below their actual value. The biggest gold making mistake ever

• And posting too few times to make any sales. The second biggest gold making mistake ever.

Players with these habits make up the majority of the farming population. Which means, most, if not all the general farming population could be making tons more gold, in the same amount of time, if they took a couple of days out to get up-to-date on the latest auction house technology.

But now that we’ve gotten that out of the way, lets discuss their extreme opposites..



Dedicated Auctioneers: are very similar to casual farmers, with one exception – They’re auction house saavy. Dedicated auctioneers are more times than not, convinced 100% that whatevers on their tooltips, is the price an item will sell for in the auction house.

And with good reason.

Those same item sales continue to fund pretty much everything in Warcraft, from mounts, to repairs and more. I am one of them.

To be clear, here are the main characteristics that a dedicated auctioneer usually has:

• We usually know about, and farm many different spots. We do this to diversify our profile and expand our loot to reach more customers. (It also prevents over-saturation).

• we are never worried about a spot getting nerfed, and actually welcome it, knowing it will decrease competition dramatically. Which is good news, since we have a surplus of items from before the farm was nerfed.

• Usually upload auctions consistently. Times do vary. But at the very least, 3 times a week as the minimum

• When we obtain a larger stock (800+) we do eventually scale back and post less– as gold is no longer an issue, and making it seems pointless (Unless we like the feeling of having more than everyone else, or it’s a hobby of some sort)

• Often have an abundance of 200+ items being uploaded at a time, for their full AH price (As displayed on the tooltips).

Eventually we start to spend more time in the AH as they realize that it’s where the real gold is made. (And the funny thing is – sometimes when casual farmers insist on lowering their prices – dedicated auctioneers may buy them out and sell them for the tooltip suggested price)



But still, with all of that said, it still doesn’t answer the question of WHY.

Why do dedicated auctioneers make more gold then casual farmers when they have access to the same stock?

The real answer is, Dedicated auctioneers upload their auctions everyday. Short and simple.

Casual Farmers don’t. It’s not because casual farmers are lazy, it’s because they think posting auctions is a inefficient use of their time. Past experience has taught casual farmers that farmed BOE’s simply won’t sell right away – so posting them is boring and yields no rewards.

What casual farmers cant see is that once you have a nice sum of auctions constantly being uploaded (say 150 or more) then they’ll start to sell a very small portion every single day.

It’s the most important thing to you’ll ever learn about gold making. The thing is, it’s not that the farming greens don’t sell, it’s that the time in which they do sell is 100% random.

Seriously.

That green sword you found yesterday during your ZF farm may take 3 months or more to sell. But it will sell. Someone who’s uploading auctions consistently knows this, and just adds it to their auctioning pool, then waits for a sale. Very much like fishing.

It’s a completely different mindset than the casual farmer, who watches their auctions with a hawks-eye praying that today is the lucky day someone swoops it up. And its a shame, because if they knew how easily amassing hundreds of greens actually is… to a point where you can get drip-feed sales everyday, they’d never send any of the greens to the vendor again.

So bluntly speaking, the more auctions you are consistently uploading, the more gold you will make and the more you can charge. (Because you really don’t care if the auction sells today or even next Christmas) Your making gold everyday and you love’ it. Period.

Which means: You won’t lower prices to supplicate to buyers. Ever. If they want it, they will pay for it. Full price.

Actually I kinda have a rule for giving an estimate at how much of my auctions will sell.. and even though It’s not 100% completely accurate, it holds some truth to it.

Here it is: Out of any given day, given that you have 100+ items to upload to the auction house, 7% of your auctions WILL sale. (Given that you’ve priced them correctly) Most folks will say “just 7%?”.. but they don’t know how great 7% actually is. Especially since you can post 1000 auctions or more in under 30 minutes with today’s auctioning technology.

(This will imply that with 1000 auctions 70 will sell. Which is not true, it’s actually a random mix.) With 1,000 auctions I may sell about 55 of them and make anywhere between 9,000g-20,000g) everyday just by posting for 30-45 minutes.))

It really is no sweat, almost auto-pilot profits. All you have to do is farm and post. There are times when I can come out with 50k+ a week and not do any farming. Just uploading the drops from old farms / the things I found on the AH for cheap. So before you continue you need to get this down:

1) You can sell “Pioneers legplates of the monkey” for 145g, the inflated tooltip price

2) You can upload hundreds of auctions everyday without spending hours doing so.

3) You can cut your farming time in half (to invest in auctioning) and make 10x more profits

Learn this and you are more than half way there.



This is where it gets practical, so first let me lay the tools all out on the table. The following are the current tools I use to get the full job done. From identifying item prices, to posting 1,000+ items in under an hour, and even collecting what seems to be pages of sold auctions.

Some of these you may have seen before, others will most definitely be new. Here they are:

Price Identification: The TSM Desktop APP (Critical)

Auctioning: Tradeskill Master, Tradeskill Master Auctioning,Tradeskill Master Mailing, Tradeskill Master Accounting

Miscellanous: Moggit

There are other, and more complicated combinations. However, this is what I’ve found to be the most simple and straight forward way to go about it.

For the means of explaining what they are, I urge you to visit each add-ons download pages to get an overview. But here’s a brief explanation:

The TSM Desktop App: This is our bread and butter. One of the most amazing gold making apps available. This add-on gives us accurate pricing data for our tooltip – right from TSM’s Auction DB. It even updates the tooltips prices all by itself. Since the undermine journal is officially closed, this app serves as it’s well needed replacement. It will allow us to sell our items automatically - based on very accurate prices supplied by blizzards API.

I know all the technical jargon sounds complicated, but really it isn’t. Once you get the desktop app set up – you’ll see how lightweight and easy it is to get it to function. Just download the add-on at the website, tell it what server to give you auction house data for, and you are all set. (I made a video to show you all this, do not worry.)

Tradeskill Master: Tradeskill master is the system that will allow us to post all of our items automatically, in very little time. It has many uses, however our primary purpose in this scenario is to post our auction with very little effort (without having to waste time setting the prices ourselves).

Moggit: Provides a very pretty character model in our tooltips. It allows us to see what items look like without having to inspect them manually.

Installing these addons requires a small set up process. So to ease that burden I've made a video that will walk you through setup.. from downloading every addon via curse to configuring the TSM app so you get those leet tootips.

No worries,it'll hand hold you the entire way! To download the required addons and set up the app, please watch the video below. We'll also drop the links to the downloads below the video.

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So the set up looks like this: Download these:
The TSM APP / Tradeskill Master, Tradeskill Master Auctioning /Tradeskill Master Mailing, / Moggit / Tradeskill Master Auction DB

And Finally The Most Important - TSM WoWuction!

Essentially the end result is a neat tooltip that resembles something like this:



Notice how clean that is? We only want to see 2 values. The Region Median & The Realm Market Value.

You can of course ALWAYS use more.. but for beginners, this is the perfect starting point. As you get more advanced with TSM, you can naturally improve your auctioning strategy on your own. But when taking baby steps, I found that these are the easiest to teach and the easiest to understand.

Please note that the video in the above link will help you achieve this result. Follow it to the end, and you'll have some stellar profit snatching tooltips to work with.

But now that that’s done, lets get into setting up TSM so we can sell our auctions – FAST.

Setting Up TSM To Sell Your Auctions FAST:

TSM is what allows you to post auctions at insane speeds. You will need it when you start to gather your arsenal of farm drops. While it may seem intimidating at first, using it is actually really easy. And much more efficient than posting manually.

Actually if it we’re not for TSM the whole “dedicated auctioneer” concept would be dead anyway. The point is to post your auctions without taking up too much time. If you spend loads of time just posting auctions, then your are missing the point entirely.

Essentially, by the end of this section, we’ll turn TSM into our personal auction house posting machine… And profit immensely because of it.

So to get TSM to sell things for us, we really only have to do 3 things:

1) Tell it which items to sell for us (Create a group in TSM)

2) Tell it for what prices to sell them for (Create an operation in TSM)

3) Go to the auction house and sell them. (Post With TSM)

Once that’s done, your only real worry is to get more items and make sure your stock never runs out.

Step 1: Telling TSM which items to sell for us (Creating A Group)

A group is a huge list of items. Simply it’s a big list that tells TSM which items to sell for you (Basically A List of all our BOE farming drops) This step is by far the most simple, and probably the most productive. Since once you tell TSM what drops to sell, it remembers it forever and you no longer have to tell it again. Simply Open TSM with /TSM. Then on the upper left hand side click groups.

This screen should pop-up asking you to give your first group a name.




Lets call it “All auction house wares”. Type that in and hit enter. TSM will then ask you to create an operation. An operation is just a command string that tells TSM how to post your auctions. You can set the duration, fallback prices, contingency plans, min/maximum prices and more! And don’t worry, if “command string” sounds complicated – it’s not. Actually it’s really easy to set up.

Here’s how it will look on your screen after you enter your group name:

Right under where it says “auctioning”, click “Create Auctioning Operation” The screen will change to this:





It will ask you to name your operation first. Lets call it “Sell all farmed greens”. Hit enter and your good. TSM will ask you “if you want to apply this operation to the group you just created”. You don’t have to understand what this means right now. For the moment just Hit yes / okay.





After hitting yes, you’ll be taken to the operation main menu. You’ll see a bunch of tabs here called “general” “post” “cancel” “reset” “relationships” “management” – Click “Post” And boom. Just like that, your taken to the instruction manual behind your item posting system. Whatever values you enter here will determine how all your stock gets posted. So this step is very important.

Pay close attention.

The way we’ll configure this page will allow the TSM APP and TSM to communicate so that we can effectively post our auctions without setting any prices ourselves.

How?

First off, we’re going to tell TSM to post all of our items using the region market median price. Which is a big win for us because:

1) The Region market median reflects the real value of an item (eliminating the guess work)
2) We’ll never have to manually price our auctions again. Ever.
3) Time saved is astronomical. (AS-TRO-NOM-ICAL)

To do this’ we’ll have to enter the following values in the specified fields. To avoid confusion, ill lay them out for you and explain what each one means. Ill also provide a screenshot of my settings for the more visual folks out there.




Enjoy.

Auction Settings:

Duration: 24 Hours (Leave as is)
Post Cap: 1 (Change to 500)
Stack Size: 1 (Leave as is)
Keep Quantity: 0 (Leave as is)

Auction Price Settings:

Bid Percent: 100% (Leave as is)
Undercut Amount: 1c (Change to 1g) Optional

Now it’s time for the post price settings.

These settings use a code that allow TSM to read it’s WoWuction data. Which is epic all the way. Your add-ons will start to work together to create fully oiled profit system. The following code we’ll input, -“WoWuctionRegionMedian” is just telling TSM to sell your items for the region median price. Which is based on the TSM App’s region market data (Which you’ve downloaded earlier, remember?)


Here’s the settings: (Copy whats in brackets into the specified fields)

Minimum Price: [30% WoWuctionRegionMedian]
Normal Price: [100% WoWuctionRegionMedian]
Maximum Price: [150% WoWuctionRegionMedian]
When Below Minimum: “Post At Minimum Price”
When Above Maximum: “Post For Maximum Price”

And your done! With that set up you just saved yourself dozens of hours of auctioning time. And possibly just set-up the most important gold making system ever invented.

But lets explain what we accomplished here.

“WoWuctionRegionMedian” looks scary and complicated right? Well don’t worry, all it means is “TSM’s region market median (Provided by WoWuction”. Which is the median price across all servers (A very accurate metric for determining an items value).

We gave TSM instructions to post based on this value. That’s all.

So now when we post an item, TSM will make 1 of many things happen!

(You don’t have to read this section. It explains what TSM will do, it might be confusing to newbies – so if you are new to this just skip it and go ahead and start posting. You’ll learn what it does with practice)

TSM will:

1) Check if someone has your item in the auction house. If not it will post for 95% of the region market median price. (That’s what we told it to do in our Normal Price Setting)

2) If someone does have it, TSM will undercut them by 1g (That’s what we told it to do in our Undercut Amount Setting)

3) If someone has our item in for WAY Overpriced, TSM will post it at our maximum price of 150% region Market Median (That’s what we told it to do in our Above Maximum Price Setting).

4) If someone has the item in for WAY too low, TSM wont post the item at all (That’s what we told it to do in our Below Minimum Price setting)


Simple.

Now all that’s left is adding our farm items to our group and we’re ready to start posting.



This step is telling TSM what exactly to sell. Like I said before, we only need to do this once. Once done TSM will remember to sell it forever.

Here's the written instructions.. After I'll show you how to do it on video for the more visual folk out there.

First you want to click “Groups” represented by the big blue shiny crystal in the upper left hand corner.
The group we created earlier should show up. We named it “All auction house wares”.

Click that, then click the tab called items. Ill show it to ya in this small screenie. Now a huge smorgasbord of items will pop up. These are the items in your inventory. Click all the greens / farm drops you want to sell in the auction house and click add.

Your done.

After you add your items to the group, mail to a bank alt. It will make retrieving the items easier for the next step.

Note: To see this entire process first hand instead of reading... just watch the video at the end of this post. It will walk you through the adding items and posting process with kindergarten like ease. I made it just to show you how to do this without excessive strain on your brainy-parts.

The last step: Posting our farm drops.

So we got everything set up. It’s time for the gold to start pouring in.

In this step we post all our items at lightning speeds using TSM. Take as much greens as you can to the auction house. It’s better if you mail them to an alt. It’s cleaner and allows you to stay organized. The biggest benefit to this is that all your items will sit in the mailbox into your ready to post them. Now head on over to the auction house. And talk to the auctioneer.

You will see these new tabs there. Click on the blue “auctioning” one. A screen should then pop up with the group we created. If you see it, then so far so good. Now, just hit start post scan and thats it. TSM will start scanning the auction house so it can post all your goods correctly.

And another good thing is as TSM scans, auctioneer will start to update it’s own data.

The only thing left is to SPAM that post button. Spam it. Now. If you told TSM to not post items below the minimum (against my instructions) The large majority of your auctions will be posted right away. The rest won’t. Why? Because some items are too underpriced to undercut. We told TSM that when items are below our minimum price (30%) below the region market median, to not post those items.

You can still post them however. All you have to do, is move on over to the auctioneer tab called “post”, then drag n drop. Easy. Which is very viable since auctioneer also updates it’s data as TSM scans.

Meaning it will also have the most recent prices. So for the items that won’t sell.. Just post them quickly using auctioneer under the “post” tab. Alternatively, if you don’t mind selling for a bit less, you can make your minimum price lower in the auctioning operation section.

Something like 10% WoWuctionRegionMedian will make it so that you almost always post everything. To show you how this entire posting process looks, here's the cool video I made.

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Now once you've got that set up, take a break, get a drink of water, come back in a day after testing it out some.

When your ready, you can dive into part 2. But again, theres no rush. In this next part we're going to make the exact same system except this time it'll work with all our trade goods.



This new section was a much requested addition to the first installment of this guide. Constantly players would say..

“Steve, while the first setup method is brilliant, it doesn't work at all for trade goods. Is there anyway you can also automate trade good posting?”

And the answer to that is.. Of course we can. For the first time in the ultimate gold guide series, im going to be giving an optimal beginners setup that will get you spitting out trade good sales just as well as the previous BOE setup. It's the same setup I personally used to make hundreds of thousands in my day as a “dedicated farmer”.

Initially, this was something I had purposely left out for players who wanted my premium service here on ownedcore, but since we've expanded the content, and there was an apparent need, I've decided it would fit perfect into this guide here.

But now that you understand the basics of TSM and are well on your way through setup, getting this second system running should be a piece of cake.

With it, you have the liberty to literally post every item you come across with TSM. Nothing will be off limits with the few exceptions to posting pets, and heroic / mythic items.
This will give you a fully funcitonal well balanced system for quickly handling every farm good from any content you come across. With the previous setup we just completed, posting trade goods is horribly inefficient.. as TSM will post them 1 at a time all the while using the WORST pricing source for trade goods. A BIG MISTAKE – since the trade good market is always fluctuating according to specific server prices, and using the WoWuction Region Median to handle them is a big no-no.

(We'll get into that in a sec)

But first, lets keep things rolling.

Setting up TSM to post thousands of trade goods in mere seconds.

Did you know: That TSM can also post dynamically? Meaning TSM can decide how much of an item to post depending on the amount you have in your inventory. For example if you have 72 gold bars, TSM can post all of them by itself.. splitting stacks all on it's own. Without ANY input in your part.

To do this, we'll utilize TSM's strength to apply more than 1 operation to a single group. Do not worry, it's super duper easy and not at all as complicated as it sounds.

Generally, we'll create a new group called “Trade goods” and 3 new operations that work along side it. The 3 operations will ALL BE INDENTICAL.. with the single difference that they post in different stack sizes so that ALL TRADE GOODS ARE ON THE AH.

Easy eh?

Let me explain with an example of how it actually works:

Lets say we add “Gold Bars” to our “Trade Goods” group. Now with that understanding, lets say we have 76 gold bars in our inventory that we want to post. In order to post them all with the least amount of effort on your behalf... TSM will break those gold bars up and post them in stack sizes that..

• Allow us to get ALL of our gold bars on the AH
• Minimizes the amount of auctions we have to post to upload them all.

Here's how TSM will post our 76 gold bars.

First, (with the setup i'll show you how to create in a few minutes) TSM will post the gold bars in 3 stacks of 20. (60 bars posted, 16 bars left)

Now since there's only 16 bars left, TSM can no longer post in stacks of 20, so it'll post in stacks of 5 instead. (3 stacks of 5 to post 15 more bars) (only 1 bar left)

Now since TSM can't post in stacks of 5 anymore (Because theres only 1 gold bar left)..

TSM will post the last bar in stacks of 1. Successfully getting all your trade goods on the AH, for the right prices, in ideal stack sizes that are able to reach a majority of audiences.

Perfect. This is key. And it's not how TSM is built on default..

Using a system like that, you can post damn near anything without posting an excessive amount of auctions and in a fraction of the time that everyone else normally does.

If you have a stack size of 207.. TSM will:

Post 10 stacks 0f 20 - Then 1 stack of 5 – Finally 2 stacks of 1. (Total 207 posted in 13 clicks -- OR 18 seconds --)

It will successfully get every trade good on the AH. It doesn't matter how many you have, it will always post them all with no effort of your own. The advantages of this are tremendous. Just using this already puts you far ahead of the game.

The rest of this guide will be dedicated to getting you the exact system described above.

Part 1 to building your TSM Trade Good System. Creating The Groups.

Same as above, what you want to do is simple create a group. Nothing more. To do that, click the TSM icon (or type /TSM) and click the big blue crystal on top. As before the “new group” pane will appear. Simple enter “trade goods” or any other name that lets you know your selling all your stacking goods here.



Now this ol' screen will pop up asking you to create operations to determine what exactly to do with your trade goods. Just as before, go ahead and click “Create Auctioning Operation”




The first operation we'll create is to sell our items in 20 stacks. We're going to create 3 operations in total, and apply them in descending order. It's easiest to start with our 20 stack operation. For this pane simply enter (Sell 20 Stacks) and press okay. It will ask you if you want to apply it to your “Trade Goods” group, hit yes to that, and click over to the post pane.



Again, you'll be at the tough section of setting up your operation settings. No worries, ye old pal Steve will hand hold you through. Actually... Take a look of my exact current settings in the screenie below. COPY THEM EXACTLY as you see them. Below this screenshot i'll also write what each setting is for the less visual folks out there.




Auction Duration: 12 hours
Post cap: 500
Stack Size: 20
Keep Quanitity: 0
Bid percent: 100%
Undercut Amount: 1c
Minimum Price: 75% Dbmarket
Maximum Price: 140% Dbmarket
Normal Price: 100% Dbmarket
When Below Minimum: Post at minimum
When Above Maximum: Post At Maximum

And we're 1/3 of the way done!

Notice something? We're not using the WoWuction Region Median to price our trade goods.

Here's why.

The trade good market is CONSTANTLY fluctuating throughout the day. The prices are always jumping up and down. And to make things more complicated are different trade goods usually have different values depending on the server make up. While windwool cloth may be in DIRE NEED on one server, it may be plentiful on another.

So for the most part trade goods are heavily server dependent when it comes to pricing. With that said, it makes regional averages obsolete for pricing these goods. So the WoWuctionregionmedian goes out the window a reliable source..

And thats not the only reason. The trade good market is as volatile as they come. During the day the prices will never stay the same. So to combat that we're going to need a pricing source that stays up to date more. WoWuction prices are only updated once every 24 hours. By using auctionDB we get to go around that and have more accuracy.. AuctionDB prices are updated once every 2 hours.
Pretty cool eh.

Note: When I'm say “AuctionDB prices” i'm referring to the “Dbmarket” source I using in the operation above. Dbmarket is classified as an AuctionDB price source. Just to clarify.

So in general, Dbmarket is the surperior choice for posting these trade goods.

But enough of that.

After you create the “Stack of 20”, the only thing left to do is to create the “Stack of 5” operation and the “Stack of 1” operation. This will allow TSM to do that whole breakup procedure I was rambling on about earlier.

O.K. So now that we have the first operation created, navigate back to the operation page for the trade goods group. It should look exactly like this with the “Sell 20 Stacks” sitting prominently in the first slot. If you see this, your in the clear, for now. Next click “Add Additional Operation”. We're going to create the 5 stack operation.



As before, enter a name your familiar with. For simpletons like me, just put “Post 5 stacks”.



Again follow the same procedure as before: Hit yes to apply it to the group we're working on, and navigate your way to the post page. For this operation the settings are EXACTLY THE SAME as before, except the stack size will be entered as 5.

Here's a screenie to help.





With that inputted, we're just about done. Although it's a bit redundant, I'll put the settings in text anyway.

Auction Duration: 12 hours
Post cap: 500
Stack Size: 5
Keep Quanitity: 0
Bid percent: 100%
Undercut Amount: 1c
Minimum Price: 75% Dbmarket
Maximum Price: 140% Dbmarket
Normal Price: 100% Dbmarket
When Below Minimum: Post at minimum
When Above Maximum: Post At Maximum

Finally, all we have to do is repeat the process with the final 1 stack operation. Click the groups icon, navigate to your trade goods group, click “add additional operation” (You should now see the 20 stack followed by the 5 stack)



Simple click on the “create additional operation” and enter the exact same settings as above with the exception that the stack size should now be entered as 1.

When your done, your operation window should look exactly like this – in proper descending order.



And thats it. You are done. Now with this system you can literally post any amount of trade goods in a very small window of time. Guaranteed.

I urge you to try it out right away to see how it works. You will not be dissapointed.

As a rule of thumb, do not be thrown off if TSM picks up any errors, it's perfectly normal. When TSM can no longer post in stacks of 20 an error will come up on the posting screen, ignore it. Just let it complete it's scan and all will be fine. You'll experience TSM post every single item in record times, all on it's own.

Combine these 2 well oiled system to become the ultimate farming machine on roids!

As an alternative (and FAR surperior method, you can use our service to learn how to get thousands of items fast, without farming) but it's entirely up to the player.

The rest of this guide will be used to show you spots you can farm to get your items. Again, using the AH is a much better and more stable reliable route – but as we proven before this can be done with farms alone for massive gold.

Here's all the farms I can think of that are ideal for this strategy: (Most are mine, with a few friends form youtube sprinkled in).

If you have a farm you wish to submit to this list, please PM me with the link. I'll be so glad you did.

[B]FARMS:[/b} These here are all farms that I know of. If you have a farm / Video and would like to add it here please message me in PM. I will add your content.

665 BOE Farm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyf8SkbuViU
Sunwell Farm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN5c8_Qbon0
SOH : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guyLrS3pY-M
MOP WINDWOOL : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTqw8SUoaSw
KARA GREENIE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsEfKhRtCjg
ISLE OF GIANTS : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXDTLeY-ROo
GB FARM : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQZTv9qshig
FIRELANDS BOE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R-qVsrkL5I
BWL INFINITE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3LHYPpG6Lc
BOT BOE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xizCFrgnmZU
AQ10 RARE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YeVV1HfopQ
AHN KAHET: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUuchaX9xg4
BRF BOE : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHrGFwXTY7I
Infinite Embersilk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIP_z_WC31c

Sweet eh?

Alright so here's what you will do for the peeps who need a little extra push:

Once you complete a farm, just add each item to the right group. EVERY ITEM SHOULD BE IN EITHER 1 or THE OTHER GROUPS.

All stackable items are placed in the stacking items groups. All BOE items are placed in the BOE items group.

Simple and Sweet.

Just go the AH, and let TSM do it's work after that. If you need to see how to make it work, refer to the video above. Posting is simple, easy, and full of profits.

Now that all the serious stuff is out the way... Time for our new and improved extended FAQ section.

That should be more than enough for you to digest, but to make it simple, lets recap everything in a FAQ:






Q: Whats the most helpful thing I can do to make more gold from farms:

A: Getting down a system to sell your drops is by farm the best thing you can do. It organizes everything so you can just post and forget. I believe just learning TSM alone will do more for than any guide when it comes to gold making.

Q: So if it is possible to sell items for the region market median price, how come It never get any sells?

A: Most likely because your aren’t posting consistently & you don’t have enough auctions. The game of selling auctions get better with he more stock you have. Yes it will seem random at times, but it much like playing a local lottery or “number hole” the more tickets you have, the more likely you’ll get a hit.

Q: So I can just sell any farm drop I get?

A: Yeah. What you do is send the items to an alt. Don’t even think about it until your ready to auction. Don’t sell any of the greens right away. Let them mass up on an alt, and when your ready start posting them. Then log in the next day and collect the sales.

Q: What if I don’t get any sales and you just waste my time?

A: Most likely that won’t happen. I have shown many players the same system and the majority of them always send me good news. Yes there are servers that are REALLY bad on the auction house, ill admit – but those servers have such a low population, that the players still there are better off moving than trying to make gold.

Q: So this will work on any realm except low pops?

A: Yes and no. Don’t use the above answer as an excuse. I’ve actually cleaned up selling goods on low pop realms like tortheldrin and onyxia. This can work on low pops as long as you have an active auction house. Thats usually the case if your on a low pop, but the majority of players are on a single faction.

Q: Are There any other methods? What about TSM snatch lists, Warehousing & more?

A: This was a basic guide intended for teaching the anti-auctioning farm crowd. Those are for a different topic.

Q: Can I use auctionator or any other auctioning system?

A: Yes you can. I don’t know if auctionator or other systems can use TUJ for a pricing mechanism, but the real meat and potatoes it done with TSM and TUJ.

Q: How much greens should I collect before I start auctioning?

A: I’d say at least 200 or so. 200 being the least. And make sure you mix those greens up from everywhere. DO NOT try to auction 200 greens from the same farm. It won’t work.

Q: Just farming? Can I acquire greens from other means?

A: Yes. The auction house. Once you start to categorize items by the pricing points on the tooltips, you no longer have to farm to collect greens. You can just stay in the auction house. Actually, you basically go 80% auctioneer full time. It’s less “fun work” but yields more profits. The endgame here is to get to a point where your so comfortable with selling items by price that you can just use the AH entirely. And only go farm when people are posting anything good.

Q: It sounds like alot of work, does it really take less time?

A: In the beginning yes, it will be alot of work and confusion. I don’t know a soul who understood how TSM and auctioneer worked on their very first try. You will mess up and probably screw up a thing a two but its all worth it. Especially since you’ll get to point where you literally don’t have to do anything and wake up to 5k or more gold everyday.

Q: Whats number of item should I aim for:

A: With my current stock I’m comfortable at just 500 auctions. Anything less than that and I farm or auction hunt for a little bit. With 500 auctions It’s like 3,000g guaranteed (minimum) and 8,000g on the high side. When I’m at 800 (when I play more) it’s like 5,000g minimum and 20,000g on the high side. I don’t see much 20k days, but they do happen. (I should get screenshots of that)

Q: I’m on the fence about giving this a shot.. should I take a chance on it?

A: Hell yes.

Are there any new farms that are unheard of, that were not listed here? What other places are there?

A: No. As far as I know of, most farms are quickly thrown onto Youtube.. And due to the streaming community there really is no such thing as a “hidden spot”. If you have a spot thats not listed here, make sure you message me and I'll add it right away.

Q: Is this strategy scalable? Whats the highest you've ever scaled it?

A: This strategy is extremely scalable. Actually its the most scalable strategy ever invented! TSM allows us to scale goldmaking beyond normal means – this strategy is one that works perfectly with it. The more auctions you post however, the more time you have to put into it. There will be no gold solution where more gold = less time.

Q: There are some items that TSM fails to post correctly. For example mythic items seem to not follow the suggested tooltip prices. Is that normal?

A: Some items cannot be posted using TSM's automation. Mythic and heroic items are perfect examples. In these cases it's best to just leave those items out and manual post them using the vanilla strategy.

Q: What about pets? Can pets be used with TSM? The tooltips seem nonexistant.

A: Nope. Pets are also considered not usable with TSM. Skip them altogether. I believe the tooltips use a different code that the standard tooltips are not built with. Pets are impossible to price correctly with TSM.

Q: Can I use any other statistics other than the ones recommended in this guide?

A: Of course. This strategy can be used with a number of different statistic combination. For beginners the ones suggested here are just the easiest to implement and understand. If you feel the need to switch operation values for better results – then go ahead. Learning is the objective.

Q: Is the AH really the best source to get items for this strategy... or are you just trying to sell me?

A: The AH is really the only source of a stable supply of goods, all in one place. Any item you find across WoW can easily be thrown into this auctioning system. By using the AH we can show you how to leverage players who consistently post items for cheap.. so you can buy and resell them. In the end, you don't want to be farming 24/7. The AH is much faster, and much more profitable. We have an ownedcore service to show you this high end goldmaking here.

Q: How often will I have to farm / gather items? Will I be able to stop at some time?

A: You can farm as often as you want. But it takes hundreds of items in order to get this strategy to work efficiently. How much items you accumulate will directly reflect on how much time you spend farming / gathering. You can use this system passively (just throwing items in the pool as you see fit) or actively (aggressively seeking items around the world). No matter what you do, just remember that what you now have is super efficient, and likely something 90% of players don't even know exist.

For more premium goldmaking, make sure you visit our thread. You can get the full video version that teaches the AH portion of this guide. Which is much much more potent.. and profitable .

You can find the premium AH part 2 of this guide here. (AH Playas Service! Learn To Resale, & Scale Profits From 4,000g-20,000g Everyday.)

[crossbones]

Nice looking guide.

Really don't agree with the simplified tooltip though. It usually helps to see more in the tooltip than less. Facts such as average daily quantity sold and the other various pricing options that is usually shown can help with making decisions on buying and selling.

Should be a good introductory guide to TSM for the people who don't know about it already.

[Sklug]

Props to solid effort and well-written guide. +7 rep

[Domo Kun]

PM me, y do u continue to release these for free, when i payed for them?? ive payed around 25$ and ur giving them away for free...
i got the xmog and terrace (i think) any ways how much is it and fronter ??

pm me thx

srry i trolled but, i dont want 2 waste money.

[nfichaomc]

It usually helps to see more in the tooltip than less.

[KingCamel]

I like the effort you put into your guides, but I feel like you are trying to make money off Ownedcore members by making it seem more complicated than it really is to the point they think they have to pay 9.99 for EACH one of your guides. I was disappointed when I bought your first guide when you posted it. I gave it a chance, but all it was is how to setup TSM which there is a million videos on youtube that go into more advanced details than you had done as well as import list and everything already automated. You are basically charging people to read that they need to go out.. farm then come sell their drops on the AH. You give no strategies on where, how, or what to farm. I think if you want to be selling your guides you need to actually have more than 5 videos of setups in your content. Such a rip off and I honestly don't like that it's always posted in the guides section. Should be in the buying, selling and trading thread for WOW that way people looking to spend money can see it.

[crossbones]

KingCamel got it right. Should be in the buying / selling section. There are so many FREE guides out there that provide all the information you need to set up TSM that buying this would be a complete rip off.

[stevesgamebox]

KingCamel got it right. Should be in the buying / selling section. There are so many FREE guides out there that provide all the information you need to set up TSM that buying this would be a complete rip off.

Hi crossbones. I'm not sure KingCamel actually took a good look at what we sell in the ownedcore thread. I don't think I would be able to get away with that after a solid year this has been running on Ownedcore. Surely one of the hundreds of other members who joined would of contacted a moderator by now.

KingCamel got it right. There are so many FREE guides out there that provide all the information you need to set up TSM that buying this would be a complete rip off.

Apologies but this is a free guide, with a note that there's far superior services at my ownedcore thread. I don't think I have or will ever charge anyone for basic information.

As for what you get in the premium thread itself..
Im not sure, what Camel is referring to, but nothing in this thread is part of my AHplayas website with the exception that we use the operations to post items.


The operations can be found anywhere - but the exact strategies taught to play the AH cannot. As I've never released them. Not here, nor anywhere else.

Camel, if you joined at the Ownedcore Thread, then you should never be farming at all. It seems like you may have missed a bunch of whats there.

[stephaniescottkennedy]

So I tried this with a bunch of stuff I had laying around in my guild bank from former members and have 7k in 1 day! Awesome guide ))))

will submit a pic if the site lets me

[YellowCake]

I made 500k gold in 3 months on Sylvanas EU Alliance which is a high populated server using previous guides,altough i needed to post 4-6 times a day to make it and cut out the competitors.I also had only a pool of 200 items which i reposted.And on low populated server i am posting 2 times per day only and making enough to not worry about gold or items i want.

[Dog_Gone]

I followed the guide to the T then worked out the additional processes that can be added to each group, which made me save more time and more money. I'd say your guide Steve is one of the best ones out there that's completely free to view and get any entrepreneur a jump start into the money side of WoW. I made about 10k per day at the bare minimum, with a few lucky days of 40+ scattered across here and there. All up, since starting this method back 6 months ago, I've made enough money to never have to worry about money again

Thanks Steve!

[oogleboogle]

I've made 700k in the past month, averaging around 26k per day using this guide, with my largest profit margin being 1.8 BILLION percent. The guide works extremely well, the more time you put into, the more you get out of it.

[Vengfull]

Brilliant will try this out