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    How to choose which stat you get from savage feasts

    So I just figured this out and decided that its worth sharing. Basically if you're like me then none of your gear is itemized correctly. This makes it so that I don't get 100 multistrike from a savage feast even though I need multistrike as an unholy death knight. This happens because I have more of the other stats (crit, vers, mastery, etc) then I do multistrike. You can easily fix this by unequipping certain pieces of gear in order to make multistrike your highest stat.

    Example:
    Your unholy dk is getting crit instead of multistrike. First chose one item that has higher multistrike then the other secondary stat (I use my truesteel belt which gives me +90 crit and +93 multistrike). Next unequip every other piece of gear and make a new set with just the belt on, then equip all of your armor and make another set. Now after every wipe you just switch to your set that only has the belt and eat from the feast, then switch back to your set with all of your armor.

    Hope this helps people save some extra gold like it did me.

    How to choose which stat you get from savage feasts
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    Works like a charm. Nice find. + REP!!!!!!!

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    Ignoring the fact I would just reply to this with "well duh common sense"

    Your aware the stat weighting of Str > Multi > Mast only counts for that one particular build that pretty much every UH DK runs because they cant think for themselves? (the one that you can find on icy veins etc)

    Take my for instance, my modified festerblight build does roughly 500-1000 more dps baseline before factoring in critical strike and multistrike (this is with 645 ilvl mind you and as the stats increase so does the gap meaning my spec pulls further in front the more geared it is) relies on a more complex Mast + Multi > Str > Mast > Multi stat weighting

    Where in laymans terms i prioritise mastery over everything and the only time i ever drop mastery or multi for strength is when the piece is at least 10ilvls higher to make up the dps loss

    Why do I do that? well simple at my current mastery of 60% in a raid my Necro Plague does an entire 50-60% of my Attack power more than Defile and normal diseases in a 30 second period, in single target AND aoe dps, but only if i also include Death And Decay in the rotation, without death and decay its roughly 50% of my AP less damage per 30 seconds.

    In other words defile is bursty and spiky while i sit comfortably at my max dps for the entire fight instead of every 30 seconds, Food for thought

    oh and on that note i did the math in a vacuum with no other stats applied and the only time Defile beats Necro + DaD is when stacks of necro are below 15 (so you've let the diseases fall off like a tard) or You have somehow hacked the game and gotten below 20% mastery (even the base mastery of 20% puts it at about 10% of your Ap difference

    The reasoning behind this is that your mastery doesnt affect frost fever but it does affect the damage frost fever does when its rolled into necro plague, meaning there is a break point where necro comes out ahead, considering ive already hit that point at such a low ilvl and still have way more dps to achieve in the future, shows the sims might need some work (oh not to mention I still benefit from crit and Multistrike, you have no idea how delicious seeing your necro tick for 15k then have 2 more ticks of 3k so it ticks for 20k in that 2 second period, such juicy)

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    In essence it may be a little off topic but play around with your stat weighting and level 100 talents

    You may be pleasantly surprised and find a more powerful and frankly more fun build to play

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    Thanks for the book but I run my own simulations and multistrike is still scaling the highest on any fight type and with any talent choice.

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    You may be pleasantly surprised and find a more powerful and frankly more fun build to play

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    Originally Posted by TheDragonfiend View Post
    Ignoring the fact I would just reply to this with "well duh common sense"

    Your aware the stat weighting of Str > Multi > Mast only counts for that one particular build that pretty much every UH DK runs because they cant think for themselves? (the one that you can find on icy veins etc)

    Take my for instance, my modified festerblight build does roughly 500-1000 more dps baseline before factoring in critical strike and multistrike (this is with 645 ilvl mind you and as the stats increase so does the gap meaning my spec pulls further in front the more geared it is) relies on a more complex Mast + Multi > Str > Mast > Multi stat weighting

    Where in laymans terms i prioritise mastery over everything and the only time i ever drop mastery or multi for strength is when the piece is at least 10ilvls higher to make up the dps loss

    Why do I do that? well simple at my current mastery of 60% in a raid my Necro Plague does an entire 50-60% of my Attack power more than Defile and normal diseases in a 30 second period, in single target AND aoe dps, but only if i also include Death And Decay in the rotation, without death and decay its roughly 50% of my AP less damage per 30 seconds.

    In other words defile is bursty and spiky while i sit comfortably at my max dps for the entire fight instead of every 30 seconds, Food for thought

    oh and on that note i did the math in a vacuum with no other stats applied and the only time Defile beats Necro + DaD is when stacks of necro are below 15 (so you've let the diseases fall off like a tard) or You have somehow hacked the game and gotten below 20% mastery (even the base mastery of 20% puts it at about 10% of your Ap difference

    The reasoning behind this is that your mastery doesnt affect frost fever but it does affect the damage frost fever does when its rolled into necro plague, meaning there is a break point where necro comes out ahead, considering ive already hit that point at such a low ilvl and still have way more dps to achieve in the future, shows the sims might need some work (oh not to mention I still benefit from crit and Multistrike, you have no idea how delicious seeing your necro tick for 15k then have 2 more ticks of 3k so it ticks for 20k in that 2 second period, such juicy)
    That's funny, because I also think that Your aware the stat weighting of Str > Multi > Mast only counts for that one particular build that pretty much every UH DK runs because they cant think for themselves? (the one that you can find on icy veins etc)

    Take my for instance, my modified festerblight build does roughly 500-1000 more dps baseline before factoring in critical strike and multistrike (this is with 645 ilvl mind you and as the stats increase so does the gap meaning my spec pulls further in front the more geared it is) relies on a more complex Mast + Multi > Str > Mast > Multi stat weighting

    Where in laymans terms i prioritise mastery over everything and the only time i ever drop mastery or multi for strength is when the piece is at least 10ilvls higher to make up the dps loss

    Why do I do that? well simple at my current mastery of 60% in a raid my Necro Plague does an entire 50-60% of my Attack power more than Defile and normal diseases in a 30 second period, in single target AND aoe dps, but only if i also include Death And Decay in the rotation, without death and decay its roughly 50% of my AP less damage per 30 seconds.

    In other words defile is bursty and spiky while i sit comfortably at my max dps for the entire fight instead of every 30 seconds, Food for thought

    oh and on that note i did the math in a vacuum with no other stats applied and the only time Defile beats Necro + DaD is when stacks of necro are below 15 (so you've let the diseases fall off like a tard) or You have somehow hacked the game and gotten below 20% mastery (even the base mastery of 20% puts it at about 10% of your Ap difference

    The reasoning behind this is that your mastery doesnt affect frost fever but it does affect the damage frost fever does when its rolled into necro plague, meaning there is a break point where necro comes out ahead, considering ive already hit that point at such a low ilvl and still have way more dps to achieve in the future, shows the sims might need some work (oh not to mention I still benefit from crit and Multistrike, you have no idea how delicious seeing your necro tick for 15k then have 2 more ticks of 3k so it ticks for 20k in that 2 second period, such juicy)

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    Originally Posted by TheDragonfiend View Post
    Ignoring the fact I would just reply to this with "well duh common sense"

    Your aware the stat weighting of Str > Multi > Mast only counts for that one particular build that pretty much every UH DK runs because they cant think for themselves? (the one that you can find on icy veins etc)

    Take my for instance, my modified festerblight build does roughly 500-1000 more dps baseline before factoring in critical strike and multistrike (this is with 645 ilvl mind you and as the stats increase so does the gap meaning my spec pulls further in front the more geared it is) relies on a more complex Mast + Multi > Str > Mast > Multi stat weighting

    Where in laymans terms i prioritise mastery over everything and the only time i ever drop mastery or multi for strength is when the piece is at least 10ilvls higher to make up the dps loss

    Why do I do that? well simple at my current mastery of 60% in a raid my Necro Plague does an entire 50-60% of my Attack power more than Defile and normal diseases in a 30 second period, in single target AND aoe dps, but only if i also include Death And Decay in the rotation, without death and decay its roughly 50% of my AP less damage per 30 seconds.

    In other words defile is bursty and spiky while i sit comfortably at my max dps for the entire fight instead of every 30 seconds, Food for thought

    oh and on that note i did the math in a vacuum with no other stats applied and the only time Defile beats Necro + DaD is when stacks of necro are below 15 (so you've let the diseases fall off like a tard) or You have somehow hacked the game and gotten below 20% mastery (even the base mastery of 20% puts it at about 10% of your Ap difference

    The reasoning behind this is that your mastery doesnt affect frost fever but it does affect the damage frost fever does when its rolled into necro plague, meaning there is a break point where necro comes out ahead, considering ive already hit that point at such a low ilvl and still have way more dps to achieve in the future, shows the sims might need some work (oh not to mention I still benefit from crit and Multistrike, you have no idea how delicious seeing your necro tick for 15k then have 2 more ticks of 3k so it ticks for 20k in that 2 second period, such juicy)
    So basically you are just posting that your build is better? Gtfo really dude?

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    Originally Posted by bob4786 View Post
    Thanks for the book but I run my own simulations and multistrike is still scaling the highest on any fight type and with any talent choice.
    Glad to see its working for you, Would love to pick your brain on your spec and playstyle, pretty damn rare i meet a fellow dk that takes the class seriously enough to run sims instead of going "Dk is the class im allowed to faceroll on because its ez2playmode right?"

    Originally Posted by trendkilla254 View Post
    So basically you are just posting that your build is better? Gtfo really dude?
    Not gonna deny i was bragging a little i can be an egotistical ******* at times, but frankly? im very passionate about the class, and whenever i hear someone is playing the class i immediately vomit advice at them because sometimes they honestly dont know yet and it helps, better to give the advice and have it not wanted than to keep my mouth shut and never know if they needed help or not, because you know thats why people still believe death knights are faceroll, and every two dk's i meet still believe that haste makes their dots tick faster.

    Now as for the 3 guys that just copy pasted my comment.

    Massively obvious signs they are bots, Not to familiar with the reporting system on this site so ill leave that for someone who knows what they are doing.

    Caio.

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