Incredible Gold Making tips vol.1 - Big Game Crafter

[pharoma]

So here you are, a very skilled and charming Jewelcrafter, Alchemist or whatever profession you might have and are making loads of gold and you start thinking that you are pushing the max out of how much you can be making, be it that mark you've set for yourself is 1k, 5k, 10k or even 20k per day and you feel like you've hit that high quote that you can't possibly go over by using the Auction House. Well you might be right if you are using all your available markets to you, and you are doing it all as you are supposed to be doing it, but what if i tell you that you can make so much more by not expanding into different markets and trying out what sells there and then clash with the other people that are already sailing strong into those markets. Well if that interests you keep on reading about the possibilities that are offered if you choose to be a Big Game Crafter.


So let me give you an idea as to what i mean when i use the phrase Big Game Crafter, it's actually very simple but yet still ingenious.

Lets say that you are a Jewelcrafter and you spend your days brushing elbows with the competition on the AH trying to get your gems sold so you can get a slice of the profit pie, you post 200 gems and you are bound to sell some 5-10 gems before you get undercut or even more if it's a busy time of the day and the competition is low but the fact is that no matter what you will never sell your full stock and get 100% back on your posting fees and not to mention there is no way to avoid paying the AH tax A.K.A AH cut, but actually is there ?

YES THERE IS, and this is the core of the (BGC) strategy, and the only thing you need to do is have some half decent persuasion skills. Ok enough with the beating around the bush, lets go down to the facts and how to of the strategy so you stop wondering what the hell am i talking about.

Few days ago i had an idea where i talked to my GM about supplying the guild bank with all the gems there are so the guild would get them at the lowest possible price so that it can sell them to the raiders at a 50% discount which in fact would be a moral boost and some effective spending of the guild bank gold. Took me about one and a half hour to make the cuts and filling up the bank with the surplus gems i had and the uncut ones that i had i got around 40k gold from that transaction which was the bare minimum with a very low to none profit margin but that actually gave me an idea to offer something in those lines to the other big guilds on my server and this is where i struck gold.


I contacted few other guilds, their respectable GM's and told them that i am willing to provide them with a good deal on gems, as well as food for all their raiders if they buy them from me in bulks. I got three GMs that were interested and we struck a deal, took me about 3 hours to craft all the gems that i had told them i would supply them with but it was time well spent because after i sold them the whole package i got about 57k gold from each of the guilds that i made that deal with (well two of them paid the 57 the third one didn't want the whole stock and had a predifined list of gems but still got me about 35k) and on top of that i managed to sweeten the pot with the food thing, and seeing as how i am not very big going out there killing animals for their flesh or fishing i sold the food of the Chinese people, the Fortune Cookie, but it took some negotiating and explaining but after a while (me telling them that there's a chance for the 5k golden card to be acquired from the food) they agreed and bought them at 220g per stack which was awesome price for a wholesale as i could cut my production time in half because some idget (word sponsored by the show Supernatural) was posting them for 6g per card and i bought them bought some flour and made them into the cookies and sold them for 11g per cookie. So there i was sitting on well over 150k for that day and wasn't even near a patch day, nor the prices were inflated on a niche market which i had no competition, nope nothing like that, simply using the BGC to rack up some great profits.

Same technique can be done with herbs, flasks, pots, food, beltbuckets hell anything you might be selling on the AH and has a high demand and the best part no need to deal with competition only a one on one talk with a certain GM and you could be reaping the profits in no time.

So try it out people, it worked for me and there's no reason why it wouldn't work for you. I sure hope you get some awesome profits out of this one and like always keep your eyes peeled for good opportunities out there.

Guide is from http://vilesauctions.blogspot.com, check out this site for much more gold guides and tips

[pharoma]

In this next bit, i would like to give you an inside on a way how to make gold by actually not doing anything, that will require you to go out, and kill things or stalk the AH. What i mean by this is, not that i am going to tell you how to make a gold forging machine, but something similar, when you see how much gold you can make, by simply doing it.

Ok so to cut it down to the point, the thing i am talking about is profiting with the use of suppliers. Now before i go on let me give you a simple explanation of the term. A supplier is usually a guy/gal that will supply you with a steady stock of materials on a daily basis at a predefined price that you have both agreed upon and is satisfactory to both of you. For a better explanation i will give you an example of what i have set up with suppliers.

I have about five guys that constantly supply me with Elementium/Obsidium Ore, and another two that supply me with leather. For this instance i will put the spotlight on the ore guys. What is happening on my server, is that i am one of the four or five main gem suppliers, so i am constantly on the look out for more raw materials (ores), so i keep my eyes open for any chance i can get to buy them. Well at least that's what i used to do. I was trying the AH for my ores until i actually though about getting the ore directly from the source, meaning cutting out the AH, and with that getting a constant flow of ore and denying all the other people the massive amounts of ore that would usually overflow the AH, that would otherwise lower the prices of ore and in return would plunge the prices of gems and BS crafted items. But i keep my eye out even nowadays about new suppliers that i might have missed out.


Ok so i told you what i do, now to tell you how to get suppliers of your own. Best way to find someone to find someone that could be your supplier would be by checking the AH for guys that are posting massive amounts of certain ore or herbs. They are usually even posting them at a low price all with the hope of selling them fast. What you need to do is very simple actually, just check the name of the seller, and send him a in game mail where you tell him that you would buy out all his stock every time he has some to provide and you don't care how much he has you will simply buy, buy, buy. Eight out of ten times this way will prove to be unsuccessful because most of those huge posters like seen on the image are either bots or farmers that don't speak the language well (Chinese, Arabic or some other language depending on the server, AND NO I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RASIST ahh NATIONALIST ahh , or whatever). But still, you might have some luck and actually get one to talk to you and then hopefully come to an arrangement that would suit you both.

Another way of getting a supplier is by keeping an eye out on the trade channel for people that would say something as simple as WTS [Elementium Ore]. Now unlike the 20% chance of success from the previous example these guys are actually the opposite and they have like 80% chance to be your guys. Let me elaborate a bit so you might get the idea why. Since they have decided to try out trade channel with their rather big stock of ore that only means one thing, they are smart, why exactly are they smart you would ask. Well they are smart because it's one of two things, first the way they obtained that ore, lets say they have 150 stacks per day that means that requires quite some time to obtain which would imply them having a little brother/sister slaving for them mining all day while they are away or at work, or the more viable choice they have a bot that does the same thing, but in any case that is not the question here but rather their need to stay away from the attention of blizzard by posting a large amount of ore on a regular basis and keeping it down to private COD transaction with a constant buyer (THIS BEING YOU)

So i have given you the two main ways of getting the suppliers you will need now let me give you one more advice how to deal with them. Before you start talking prices with them remember one thing they like you are guys playing this game and if you try and cheat them out of their profits they wont be happy and might stop with the supplying you part so remember to always keep your suppliers happy and treat them well. Ok about the prices i will give you an example of my server. What is happening on my server is the prices fluxuate somewhere from 18-35g per stack price and that big price difference is due to the time it's being sold which means at around 6-7am (EU Time) when the farmers post their stock prices are lower but as the day goes by price of ore starts climbing because supply is low (be proud of it because its probably your doing as well if you have your suppliers). Now what i have set up with my suppliers if a price tag of 20g per stack no matter of the price on the AH, i always give them a fair price which means they don't have to deal with the AH, with the posting fees and the ah percentage but most of all they keep their anonymity. So there i am i have all those people COD sending me hundreds of ores on a daily basis and what i do is my choosing, be it save them for prospecting or take them and then mail them on my alt in stacks of 12 (max mail stack number) and have them at close reach should i need them.


So take into account all the things i've told you and you end up with the fact that at any given time i have a large amount of ore in my possession for me to either use it or sell it. And as the title of the post says you can do some serious profiteering by simply getting your stock from the suppliers at the 20g price and then at night time usually after 1am (if you are awake that time) you can swing these stacks for 35g or even higher so for simply being the middle man in the transaction you get a 15g profit over the 20g you paid for the ore. And on the 450 stacks i sold last night i have made 6750g (i know i should have made a screenshot after i got all the sales instead of the first 50 sales but you still get the idea).



So to summarize this post would be, getting the suppliers should be a thing you are always on the prowl for, treating your suppliers fairly should not be something you would ever forget to do because they are giving you the sweet sweet items you sell for profits and last you need to decide if you want to prospect the ore or sell it as ore.

So there we are i hope this will help you guys and gals out there to make some serious gold without pretty much doing anything that would be time consuming or boring.

Guide from http://vilesauctions.blogspot.com/20...iddle-man.html if you want to check out other comments for this guide

[kozzzan]

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[dj_cRaZy00]

nice c&p from Vile's Golden Auctions: Suppliers And Profiting As The Middle Man

Would +rep but you didn't even give credits to the owner. He puts alot of effort into this guide, it's a shame that you just c&p it for a quick +rep farming.

[pharoma]

nice c&p from Vile's Golden Auctions: Suppliers And Profiting As The Middle Man

Would +rep but you didn't even give credits to the owner. He puts alot of effort into this guide, it's a shame that you just c&p it for a quick +rep farming.

Im sorry, it was retarded of me to not put in the link <.< Its fixed now really sorry

[Vilesting]

Well, well, well nice to see some of my work being posted on forums that are all about ways to make gold. Even though the original poster didn't make the link to my blog initially he did make it eventually and this led to me finding out about this forum. So kudos and +rep from me to him. And since you guys here deal all about making gold which happens to be one of my favorite ways i will make a few posts with links from my blog that i think are worth the attention.

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