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    The Road To Cataclysm: A Gearing and Endgame Raiding Guide

    Hey guys!

    This is my guide, and my entry for the contest in the guides section- I wanted to compile a complete guide meant to help out the casual player, or maybe a hardcore player who has been out of the game for a while. The purpose of this guide is to educate a newly endgame level 80 character on the best way to gear up and prepare for endgame raiding content. I would appreciate it if non-constructive criticism was kept to it self, as many people reading this guide may not be as knowledgeable as you may think. I know that I have had several people asking me a lot of questions lately and I think it would be helpful to have a detailed guide on the subject.

    You may already know a lot of what’s in this guide, but spend a few minutes (while in queue for a heroic, perhaps?) and you might pick a thing or two up.

    Corrections, comments, suggestions, and requests for more information warmly welcomed.


    -7itanium



    GearScore. What is it and how useful is it?

    GearScore is an add-on that assigns a value to items. Theoretically, the better item gets the better score. When a player tells you they have 5000GS, they are referring to the total value of all their items.

    Many criticize the add-on, including myself, for being overly simplistic. The ‘lower’ item is not always going to be the worst item (namely with trinkets): use it with caution. It is, however, useful as a general guide in comparing items and players, and useful as a basis on whether you are in the range of gear for a particular instance or not.

    If you haven’t already realized it, you’re going to have to increase your GS to get into PUGs (Picked Up Group) and non-guild raids. For this reason, a lot of this guide is focused on increasing your GearScore, which feels dirty as we should really be talking about stats, but GearScore is what the kids look for these days.

    When forming a raid, no one cares about your stats anymore, they only want to know your GS. That is why I seem to talk a lot about improving your GS in this guide, even though I don’t like the add-on all that much. But remember: GS will get you into a raid, but you need the stats to perform well!

    The other thing I want to point out for the newer 80s out there is Item Level. You want to make sure you have this turned on, as it is a great basis of telling what item is in a higher "tier" if you aren't as great at reading specific stats. Go into Interface settings, Display, and check the box that says "Show Item Levels". Now when you mouse over an item in your inventory (or someone else's) it will display the Item level on it as well, Example would be "Item Level 232" which is T9.

    Item Level Guide
    200- T7
    213- T7.5
    219- T8
    226- T8.5
    232- T9
    245- T9.5
    251- T10
    264- T10.5
    277- T10.5 Heroic

    THERE ARE OTHER ITEM LEVELS IN THE GAME AS WELL, FOR CERTAIN HEROIC/HARD MODES ETC, BUT THAT CHART WILL GIVE YOU THE BASICS ON WHAT EACH ITEM LEVEL IS EQUIVALENT TO. Also note that an item level 232 for example, is not necessarily part of the T9 SET.. it is just of an equivalent item level


    TALENT BUILDS
    I simply don't have the time or in-depth knowledge to list a perfect spec for every class and every role out there in the game today. But what I am going to do is link a site for each class below that has a lot of wonderful information on the speccing and glyphing of each corresponding class.

    Clicking the links below will take you to my favorite page for each of the following classes.

    WARRIOR BUILD GUIDE
    PALADIN BUILD GUIDE
    HUNTER BUILD GUIDE
    ROGUE BUILD GUIDE
    PRIEST BUILD GUIDE
    DEATH KNIGHT BUILD GUIDE 1
    DEATH KNIGHT BUILD GUIDE 2
    SHAMAN BUILD GUIDE
    MAGE BUILD GUIDE
    WARLOCK BUILD GUIDE
    DRUID BUILD GUIDE

    Know Your Rotation
    Prior to level 80, you can get away with simply casting whatever spell or ability seems good to you and that is all fine and great for leveling, But for raiding you need to establish a "Rotation" which is a sequence of spells or abilities that you use over and over again in order to maximize DPS output. This is mostly crucial for DPS classes, and tanks use them as well. Healers aren't so much into the rotation as they use whatever spell they need to get the proper amount of healing and mana use for the situation.

    The sites about that I have provided you for guides on class specific builds have the rotation listed with the build as well. Make sure you are using the proper rotation for the spec you have chosen, failing to use a rotation will get you kicked from a pug faster than you can say "clicker", because your DPS output will suffer greatly. KNOW YOUR ROTATION, USE IT and enjoy your chart topping dps.


    PRO TIP!!
    Hit your spell cast (or melee attack) button about 1/2 second before it is off global cooldown...this will increase DPS a bit as it compensates for latency

    Bind your Keys
    You may have gotten away with clicking your abilities prior to level 80, and many people still do at level 80. However, it requires a much greater deal of effort in most cases to use the mouse to conduct your rotation over and over.

    The best way to combat this is to go into your "Key Bindings" settings panel in WoW, within there it will give you the option to chose which keyboard button uses which square on the action bar (and therefore the corresponding spell). This is going to make your life 10000% simpler during a raid. For example on my death knight all I have to do to put out chart-topping DPS is hit 1,2,3,3,4,5,4,3,3,3,3 and repeat. That would be a lot of mouse moving and clicking if I didn't have my keys bound. So it is my advice that you do this as soon as you start raiding to prevent tendonitis LOL.



    Getting the Achievement
    The other frustration new 80s encounter when trying to get into raids is that they don’t have the achievement. Here are some ways around that…


    1. Guild. If – and only if – you have exhausted all means of gearing yourself up WITHOUT OTHERS CARRYING YOU, and the only way to progress with gear is to get that damn achievement, ask the guild. They might organize a run, or we might join PUGs with you (a raid is going to be more likely to take a lower geared player if they get a higher geared player to make up for it).

    2. Be Brave and Ask. YouTube has many video guides, with which you can learn how to fight a particular raid. If you can tell a raid leader that you know the fights, they might be nice and include you.

    3. The Ol’ Switcheroo. This is a bit naughty, but it’s what I did ^^. Fact: 90% of people are idiots. So many raid leaders don’t even check achievements when they ask you to link them. So just link the blank achievement and wait for your invite. I figure, if the raid leader is enough of an idiot not to check achievements, he’s fair game. Note: it will be awkward when you earn the achievement in the raid. This method may, however, get you onto a few ignore lists.

    4. Also a bit devious (but people deserve it for requiring GS and achievements rather than skill IMO). Overachiever, or Allene's Fake Achievement are both add-ons that I have used. What you do is you link a blank achievement with a command behind it (For AFA it would be /AFA [The Fall Of Naxxrammas] 2009-01-19, or whatever date you want in there). There is other add-ons out there as well and most of them can be found at curse.com



    Gearing Up

    Hit Rating – The most valuable stat for ALL dps classes

    Completely uninformed players ignore hit when, in fact, hit rating is THE MOST IMPORTANT STAT FOR ALL DPS CLASSES. Don’t even try to argue with me on this point, because you’re wrong.

    Hit rating reduces your chance to miss. At level 80, 32.79 hit reduces your chance to miss by 1%. Several classes have abilities and talents which also reduce their chance to miss.

    You NEED to reach hit cap, which is when you have sufficient hit rating that your attacks will never miss.

    By the time you’re raiding ICC, you’re going to want most or all your hit rating coming from gear as gear is the most efficient source of hit. While you’re gearing up, though, you can use gems and enchants to improve your hit rating.

    Of course, once you’ve reached hit cap, additional hit does absolutely nothing for you.

    The following is the hit rating required to never miss against a level 83 (i.e. a raid level boss):

    Warrior
    262.32
    (163.95 with 3/3 precision)

    Paladin
    262.32
    (131.16 with 2/2 enlightened judgment)

    Hunter
    262.32
    (163.95 with 3/3 focused aim)

    Rogue
    262.32
    (98.37 with 5/5 precision)

    Priest
    445.94
    (367.25 with 3/3 shadow focus)
    (367.25 with misery)
    (288.55 with 3/3 shadow focus and misery)

    Death Knight
    262.32
    (163.95 with 3/3 nerves of cold steal when dual wielding)

    Death Coil, Icy Touch, Howling Blast
    445.91
    (Don't try to get capped in this, but for Dual Wield frost Knights you want to have a bit more hit than with a 2 handed weapon)

    Shaman
    Spells: 445.94
    (367.25 with 3/3 elemental precision)

    Melee: 262.32
    (65.58 with dual wield specialization when dual wielding)

    Mage
    445.94
    (367.25 with 3/3 precision)
    (267.25 for arcane only with 3/3 arcane focus)
    (288.55 for arcane only with arcane focus and precision)

    Warlock
    445.94
    (367.25 with 3/3 suppression)

    Druid
    Spell: 445.94
    (341.02 with 2/2 balance of power)
    (367.25 with improved faerie fire)
    (262.32 with 2/2 balance of power and improved faerie fire)

    Melee: 262.32



    On the subject of Hit rating, with the hit rating caps I posted above, a player will still miss against raid bosses (melee, and hunters) but a caster will not. It is probably worth mentioning that those hit caps are the "yellow" hit caps, and only ensure that your abilities can't miss. It is probably also worth mentioning that missing and being dodged/parried are different. Even if you are hit capped you can still be dodged or parried.

    Another point on hit, might be to include what you need to reach with/without the Draenie hit buff and/or Misery or the Improved Faerie Fire.

    For rogues, they also care about spell hit, as their poisons do not use melee hit values, but spell, so for a Mutilate specced rogue they actually want 315 hit (assuming 5/5 precision) so that their poisons (which they spec into) never miss. For a combat rogue, spell hit is slightly less valuable, but is still better than any other stat until you are approaching the Armor Penetration hard cap, which requires at least full 264, and thus is not relevant for this guide. That said, combat rogues too should be trying for the spell cap, but they (as well as Death Knights) get full bonuses for their "spells" from the other hit buffs:

    The white hit cap is clearly not worth reaching, and all the modeling supports this, but at least for rogues the poison hit cap is super important, and deserves mention.


    Tier Sets – Get Tier 9 (or 10!) as a priority before ICC

    Tier sets are amazing as they give set bonuses. These set bonuses are very valuable. For example, when ICC came out, a lot of people didn’t even replace their Tier 9 items with Tier 10 until they had enough for at least the 2-item bonus.

    5 items make up a set, but you only need 4 of them to get the bonuses. My recommendation is to have at least 4 of them equipped always, even if you have another item with better stats, as the bonuses are so sexy.

    Get your tier 9 as a priority before entering ICC.


    The Pre-Raid Grind – Part One of Gearing Up

    The first part of gearing up is farming heroics. It sucks horribly. But once it’s done, it’s done.

    Every day you should do the following heroics, as the gear that drops in them is quite good: TOC, FoS, PoS, and HoR. Then just do random heroics for the triumphs.

    Triumphs can be converted down to lesser emblems, if necessary, to buy additional items: 1 Triumph = 1 Conquest = 1 Valor = 1 Heroism. With these emblems, you can buy the following equipment to ‘fill in the blanks’ of your pre-raid gear:

    Head – Triumph (tier vendor)
    Neck - Conquest
    Shoulder – Triumphs (tier vendor)
    Back - Valor
    Chest – Triumph (tier vendor)
    Wrist - Valor
    Hands – Triumph (tier vendor)
    Waist - Conquest
    Legs – Triumph (tier vendor)
    Feet - Valor
    Ring 1 - Triumph
    Ring 2 - Valor
    Trinket 1 - Triumph
    Trinket 2 - Triumph
    Main Hand – Sorry, nothing available from emblems. Find the best you can in a heroic (hint: ICC drops the battered hilt which starts a pro quest, but it’s very rare)!
    Off Hand - Heroism
    Ranged - Triumph

    Between the heroics I’ve listed above and the gear that can be bought with emblems, you should be able to hit about 4.5k GearScore. Look at what drops in the heroics I listed, and also what is available to your class for which emblems, decide what the best pre-raid item you can get is… and go get it!

    WowWiki has information on what drops in the heroics I listed, and you can go look at what the vendors offer in Dalaran. Spend a few minutes, have a think, make a shopping list.

    Phase two: Starter Raids – ToC, Onyxia, and the others

    So, you’ve gotten absolutely every last item you can from farming triumphs and running the better heroics. You now have around 4.7k GS and are sufficiently geared to raid TOC and Onyxia, which is where the real upgrades are. Keep doing these, week in and week out, until you reach about 5k GS.

    Get into other raids, if you can, as well. Naxxrammas, Ulduar, OS, and Eye of Eternity will most likely all contain upgrades (even though they may only be minor upgrades). WowWiki.com is an easy to use source of information about what loot drops where. Unfortunately, people tend to neglect these ‘other’ raids nowadays. If an item increases your GS by 20, that’s still going to make it easier to get into a PUG.

    YouTube has many guides on the bosses you will encounter in all raids, and I recommend highly watching these videos before attempting a boss for the first time.

    Importantly, you are now sufficiently gear to not have a hard time getting invited to the Weekly Raid Quests, which will grant you additional Frost emblems, putting you on the road to tier 10 items.


    Phase three: ICC!

    So you’ve reach 5k GS! Grats! There are probably still upgrades in ToC and Onyxia for you, and keep trying to get them, but start trying to join ICC raids now as well to accelerate your gear up.



    RAIDING GUILDS
    One of the best ways to get a good experience in endgame content is to join a raiding guild. There is many of these out there ranging from more casual players all the way up to committed heroic mode core guilds. It is in your best interest to try and get into a raid guild if you have the time and you plan to make raiding a more serious endeavor. Here are some hints on how to get yourself into a raiding guild and move up to a core spot as quickly as possible.

    - Many of these guilds require you to apply on their Website in order to join. When applying for a guild on the site it is important to use proper grammar and act somewhat "professional" as this gives them the confirmation that you will act in a mature and collected way in their vent server as well as guild chat.

    - A good place to start out in your quest to find a raiding guild is to go to the official World of Warcraft Realm forums.. located HERE. Many guilds advertise here and also should have a link to their guild page on it as well.

    -Make sure that when you have an application pending you have your character gemmed and enchanted properly, and that you are logging out every night with your main spec (the one you plan to raid with) activated and your main spec gear on your character. The reason for this is that whatever gear you log out wearing is the gear that the recruiter will see when you looks into the armory link you have provided.

    - Most guilds are more than happy to assist the "right" player in obtaining better base gear to fulfill their raiding needs. That being said however it is important to have the correct gems and enchantments on any piece of gear you are wearing on the armory (even if it's a crappy piece). This shows that you know your class role and how to gear it properly, but just haven't had the opportunity to obtain the proper piece of gear yet, and they will be much more likely to help you do this.

    -When you join a raiding guild you are almost certainly going to be put into a "trial" or "standby" rank. Guilds do this for a couple of reasons. First reason being that they may not have a spot in their core group for you just yet, second reason being that they want to monitor you for a week or two to make sure you are the man for the job. During this trial period it is absolutely crucial that you show up to any raids that you sign up for, and also make sure that you spend some time running heroics and raids with them whenever you are online and you see a guildie looking for someone to join their group for a pug or whatever. This will give you a good standing with the members and they will be more likely to give you a good word if an officer asks them how you are performing.

    -Always show up to any raid with the proper flasks and consumables (buff food, potions, elixirs, etc). This shows that you are willing to go that extra mile and get the maximum output from your character whenever possible.

    -Know your role and know the fights. A raid leader is going to be more likely to keep you on the team if you aren't constantly asking questions about the fight that could easily be answered by using your resources. That isn't to say it's not ok to ask questions, but beforehand you should have done a substantial amount of research on your own. Tankspot.com, wow.zuggaming.com, and youtube.com are excellent places to go to learn about each boss fight. Watch a video of each fight more than once, and read about it as well- this will give you the upper edge when raiding and make you look like a pro.



    Learning More

    This guide is obviously very general and is only intended to take you up to the gates of ICC.

    Advanced information can be found in the class forums of ElitistJerks.com. In these forums, you will find guides detailing advanced mechanics of your class. A thorough understanding of your class is necessary to maximize performance. Intuition and experience is valuable, but some math-craft and theory-craft give you an edge over other players.

    Further, you can learn a lot about boss encounters in raids to prepare for ICC (and other raids) on YouTube or on the Tankspot forums.




    Add-ons

    THE ORANGE NAME OF EACH ADDON IS A LINK TO ITS DOWNLOAD PAGE, AND TO GET MORE INFORMATION

    REQUIRED ADDONS
    Deadly Boss Mods gives you warnings when bosses use special abilities or when something funky is going on
    Omen:
    lets you know how much threat you are generating, so that the boss doesn’t attack you
    GearScore:I am not the biggest fan of this add-on, but the fact is that everyone’s using it, so you should be able to tell someone your GearScore if asked. This add-on will tell you what it is.
    AtlasLoot enhanced: A great add-on for knowing what gear drops in what instance, a must have for finding upgrades in my opinion.

    ADDITIONAL ADDONS THAT MIGHT HELP
    Pally Power: Awesome add-on for paladins to get buffs sorted out
    Bartender: This is a helpful add-on for most classes if you have problems with, or don't care for the stock UI. This add-on allows you to move any of your action bars to anyplace you want anywhere on the screen, it also makes them a bit more compact and adds some other very helpful options. It takes a while to set up properly but can be well worth it in the end for many players.
    Grid: A great add-on for healers that includes status indicators for health, mana, incoming heals, aggro/threat, buffs and debuffs, range, and ready checks- as well as many different indicators, including: center text, center icon, frame border, frame opacity, and colored squares in each of the four corners.

    Carbonite: Provides a number of very helpful things in game. Detailed maps of every zone and instance in the game, information on completing quests, a small map that appears on your screen that you can move around (I usually remove this during raids though) and many other things as well.
    Outfitter: Provides simple, 1-click wardrobe changes. This can come in very handy for people that have 2 different specs that they raid with (IE a druid who has a healing set and a tanking set). You can also program it to automatically change your outfit whenever you change specs, or go into a different stance or presence.
    Allene's Fake Achievement: I am listing this add-on ONLY for its proper use in my opinion, which is to help you get into pug raids when you have sufficient gear and you know the fights inside and out. Some PUG raid leaders out there are absolutely ridiculous when it comes to requiring an overly high GearScore and an achievement for anyone and any raid. This can also be handy if you have done something on a main character but simply haven't done it yet on your alt. NEVER USE THIS ON GUIDIES- its bad policy

    There are many many more add-ons out there, but those are the basics and its best to run those when starting out, but also don't get carried away and run too many add-ons either as they can become confusing as well as cause lag in the long run- and that isn't what you should be focusing on during your first raids!

    If you have any more suggestions for additional Add-Ons that should be listed here please let me know. I am not that pro on the add-on department as I only use a couple of them myself (the ones listed primarily)

    Helpful Web Sites

    Here are some very informational websites that I found helpful when gearing up and leveling, and with learning raid boss fights and such. Note that I didnt link any forums as I am pretty sure that is against the rules. Click on the name of the site below to be directed directly to it.

    MMOWNED <--- The 1337est site on the net!
    YOUTUBE <--- Great for watching videos on learning fights etc!
    TANKSPOT <--- Very helpful, for all classes not just tanks!
    ZUG GAMING <--- One of my favorite places for learning fights!
    WowWiki <--- All that is WoW
    THOTBOTT <--- Links to every item and NPC in the game
    DEATHKNIGHTBUILDS.COM <--- Awesome site for DK Specs!
    World Of Warcraft: Official Site (USA)
    World Of Warcraft: Official Site (EUROPE)




    I really hope you have all enjoyed my guide, I know many of you are much more advanced than this and much of this could be considered common sense, but you would be surprised how many players out there don't understand much of this information. I hope that everyone at least learned something, or found something interesting along the way. Let me know if I need to add or correct anything! Thanks

    Good Luck And Happy Gaming!



    -7itanium




    EDIT:
    It has been brought to my attention that a fraud has leaked this guide on another site.. here
    http://www.masterofwarcraft.net/2010...r-new-80s.html

    just wanted everyone to know that this is a leak of my original guide that was launched on my guild site over a year ago... I modified and updated the guide and posted it in this contest. You can tell it is a fraud by the way it ends... "good luck and happy gaming"

    that is my trademark closing.. I have used it on all my articles and guides ever since I was first on the newsteam.. check if out for yourself- I consider that all the proof that is needed.. Thanks for bringing the fraud to my attention but I really hope nobody thinks I am the fraud here.

    I WOULD NEVER steal a guide from anyone else, and as you know I have written hundreds of guides myself and this one is written very similarly.

    Also notice how on his site it says
    "THE WHITE NAME OF EACH ADDON IS A LINK TO ITS DOWNLOAD PAGE, AND TO GET MORE INFORMATION"
    but yet the links are GREEN....
    wow... he couldnt even think to change the link color like I did when I posted it here??

    -7itanium

    "GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY GAMING!!"
    Who would have thought being a creature of habit would save my ass!
    Last edited by 7itanium; 09-09-2010 at 05:29 PM. Reason: Spelling

    The Road To Cataclysm: A Gearing and Endgame Raiding Guide
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    It's nothing I didn't know, but it is a great guide for noobs!

    Gj!
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    What do I stand for? Well... If I sat all the time, my butt would hurt. P.s. I've had my avatar as Garaa in a panda suit since before MMOwned had a panda mascot! :jawdrop:

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    I agree with Dragoonman.

    It's a good guide for the very basics!

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    Thanks guys.. I appreciate the responses

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    Great guide, I expected nothing short of great to start with! Pictures would make this guide even better.
    Check out my YouTube: SkeetzGaming

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    Originally Posted by dinnerrollofdoom View Post
    I went to that website and...

    Page not found
    Sorry, the page you were looking for in the blog World of Warcraft Strategies does not exist.
    Pretty sure 7itanium wrote the original road to icecrown if you search it. Thats a copy pastah of his work.
    Check out my YouTube: SkeetzGaming

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    It doubles up the address when you click it, so delete one and you'll get to the page.

    As for the guide itself, it was written by someone who goes by the name Kamper on Twitter.

    Good guide all in all to cover the basics and will +Rep if you are infact Kamper

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    World of Warcraft Strategies: The Road To Icecrown - A Guide for new 80s

    This is the correct address.

    Is it you, 7itanium? There are some parts like the useful websites part, that aren't in that website.

    And you haven't added this here:

    I really hope you have all enjoyed my guide, I know many of you are much more advances than this and much of this could be considered common sense, but you would be surprised how many players out there don't understand much of this information.

    Good Luck And Happy Gaming!


    Honestly I don't believe that 7itanium is a copypaster.

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    No that is not me... that is a copy paste of my work

    This guide was something I posted on another site over 10 months ago. I simply modified it and updated it to enter in this contest.
    I have no reason to steal anyone elses work as many of you would know by now.

    if you would like me to screenshot the original word file of this guide, showing a save date WELL before that ******* leached my guide I would be happy to do so.

    Had I known that someone had leached this already, I would have never entered it in the contest.

    ---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 PM ----------

    Guys

    i posted this guide both here and on my guild forum almost a year ago

    i simply took this guide and updated it to make it current, and made some tweaks

    i deleted the original post and posted it in this contest


    it is my guide, always has been-- i even recieved rep for it and the mods are welcome to check

    this whole thins is absolutely insane

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    Originally Posted by 7itanium View Post
    No that is not me... that is a copy paste of my work

    This guide was something I posted on another site over 10 months ago. I simply modified it and updated it to enter in this contest.
    I have no reason to steal anyone elses work as many of you would know by now.

    if you would like me to screenshot the original word file of this guide, showing a save date WELL before that ******* leached my guide I would be happy to do so.

    Had I known that someone had leached this already, I would have never entered it in the contest.

    ---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:12 PM ----------

    Guys

    i posted this guide both here and on my guild forum almost a year ago

    i simply took this guide and updated it to make it current, and made some tweaks

    i deleted the original post and posted it in this contest


    it is my guide, always has been-- i even recieved rep for it and the mods are welcome to check

    this whole thins is absolutely insane
    Thats so lame. Pretty messed up he'd steal your guide and not give you any credit for it. I think you have a good enough reputation around here that we know you wouldnt do this. +Repx4 because you're awesome, and so is this guide!


    Edit: too much rep today, ill hit you up tomorrow

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    Thanks man... hopefully others believe me

    I dont need nor want to be knows as the guy who stole a guide to win a contest.. that is just stupid

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    Originally Posted by 7itanium View Post
    Thanks man... hopefully others believe me

    I dont need nor want to be knows as the guy who stole a guide to win a contest.. that is just stupid
    Nah. I know you, 7itanium.

    You are not a copycat. You've written a shitload of guides. Best ones you had in the scams section (when it existed). I learned a lot from you :P

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    if you look at the bottom of the post on that copypasters site it says

    "GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY GAMING"

    THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING!!!

    Go check out ANY of my newsteam articles or any post or guide in the last year... THEY ALL END WITH THAT SAME PHRASE>>> IT IS LIKE MY TRADEMARK!!

    Proof right there (as if I needed it) that this guy is a crook
    Last edited by 7itanium; 09-09-2010 at 05:20 PM.

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    Great guide 7itanium, stupid F*****s who steal it and claim it, they need to get a friggen life and gtfo.
    If you need me you have my skype, if you don't have my skype then you don't need me.

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