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    {death knight} basics of frost-dps

    let's start with the basics of frost.
    specc
    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft
    if you want you can take off points chill of the grave and put in black ice or if you have issues with agro in subversion.

    1 macro i recommend to use
    Code:
    #showtooltip Unbreakable Armor
    /cast Blood Tap
    /stopcasting
    /cast Unbreakable Armor
    /cancelaura blood tap
    /run if (UnitBuff("player","Unbreakable Armor") and UnitBuff("player","Blood Tap")) then CancelUnitBuff("player","Blood Tap") end
    and the timing of it makes or break your rotation.
    you want to use it when both of your blood runes are on cooldown.

    rotation :
    to start : IT>PS>BS>PEST>UA MACRO>OBLIT>FS
    after : OBLIT>OBLIT>OBLIT>PEST>BS>OBLIT>OBLIT

    ofc i can't put proccs in a rotation list on single target you want to do frost strike when killing machine proccs and on aoe howling blast.

    and if rime proccs (free howling blast) you do howling blast.

    glyphs
    major.
    glyph of diseases
    glyph of obliterate
    glyph of frost strike
    minor.
    glyph of horn of winter
    glyph of pestilence
    glyph of raise dead

    gems : there are a lot of discussions about gemming as frost dk many ppl that say you have to gem arp but after a wile trying it at 100% arp it doesn't seems to me more or less dps.
    only thing is that your obliterate crits will be higher to rush at fights like lich king the valkyr down.

    so you mainly want to gem 20 strg
    but if there is a yellow socket spot where the socket bonus is more then 4 strength you want to gemm 10 strength/10 crit

    and as meta gem you use the 21 agility / 3% more crit dmg.

    expertise cap is 26

    hit cap is 5% for mellee atacks and 8% for spells somewhere at 7% is ok


    cd's
    anti magic shell : if you use it well you can gain a lot of dps with it wenever a boss or trash deal magic dmg you use it and you will gain lots of runic power.

    empowered rune weapon : you want to use it when the boss is below 35% cuz ur oblit deals 12% more dmg then (talent).

    runeforge : you want rune of the fallen crusader on main hand and Rune of Razoricer

    well dps in blood pres blablabla think this is it for frost will do unholy when i got bit more time

    {death knight} basics of frost-dps
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    You forgot to mention that your spec is for dual wield dks (using slow/slow weapon combination). I also recommend using priority list instead of rotation.
    This is the list I use:


    And hit cap for melee is 16% (19% without talents) but you dont need to go over 8%. (its a waste of stats going over 8% hit)
    Last edited by ohmaigawd; 08-27-2010 at 11:39 AM.


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    melkbus's Avatar Member
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    uhhm ye that's hard cap but there are like no mellee classses that goes untill hard cap

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    Erm....

    There's a much better guide here that I wrote.

    http://www.mmowned.com/forums/world-...-high-dps.html

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    ah i'm sorry didn't see it but there is something that isn't right.

    Always have at LEAST 11% Hit, it is the minimum

    if i'm wrong can you explain why cuz with talent 8% is enough to get spell hit cap

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    (No flaming intended)
    Please Capitalize letters.
    Please do not type "blablabla"
    Please do not use abbreviations such as "ofc" because not everyone know what they mean.
    Please go a little more in-depth for most people know what gems to use what enchants to use and stuff but others do not know when to use their cooldowns at the right times. You do not always want to use UA right at the start because at the 3:30 minute mark you might use heroism and UA will be on cooldown because of your 1 minute interval set up. If you used Hero and UA at the same time you will be attacking 30% faster with 20% more strength making you do more dps. Also with gems you usually always want to gem Str/Hst in yellow sockets for more haste = more melee and Blood-Caked and Necrosis hits. Also when using CD's use ERW after you finished all the runes CD's and blood runes are death runes because you can then use 3 Obliterates in a row followed by a major Frost Strike spam.

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    Sorry but UA only has 1 min cd when you know that bloodlust/heroism is mostly at the end of the fight why wouldn't you use it at start al you say is that it also is a dps increase wile its bloodlust/heroism.
    And 10 strg 10 crit is better for the most. Also you really want to do ERW when boss is below 35% so ur obliterate and howling blast deals 12% more dmg.

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    Originally Posted by melkbus View Post
    Sorry but UA only has 1 min cd when you know that bloodlust/heroism is mostly at the end of the fight why wouldn't you use it at start al you say is that it also is a dps increase wile its bloodlust/heroism.
    And 10 strg 10 crit is better for the most. Also you really want to do ERW when boss is below 35% so ur obliterate and howling blast deals 12% more dmg.
    I know it has 1min CD but if you use it at start, you will have it every 1-minute but if you use heroism at 3:30 mark like I said it still has 30 seconds of CD which doesnt maximize dps. Also str/hst is usually little more damage because as frost you have ridiculous crit from what I see and crit hits Diminishing Returns harder than str/hst because you have tons of crit on gear but minimal on plate gear. Also I never said you dont wana use ERW when boss is below 35% >.>

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    [QUOTE=melkbus;1943375]Always have at LEAST 11% Hit, it is the minimum/QUOTE]#
    Your close, but dual-weilding the hit cap is 18%- ur talents and virulence = 12% hit

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