DK Gem and Gear Guide

[lord nikon123]

ok i will make this a short post so you dont fall asleep.

I keep seeing other Deathknight wandering around and rolling on Attackpower based gear This is BAD! if it has Attackpower and Agility its meant for Rogues Hunters Druids and maybe Warriors depending on build?? If it has Strenght!!!!!!! then its for DK Paladins Warriors. Trinkets are the exeption but i shouldnt have to tell u this.

Gems gems gems, how many people get this wrong! What in the blue hell is the point in using the +Crit head slot gem if u dont have the 2 Blue gems equiped to get the effect! And please for the love of god only use Orange gems when the socket bonus is +8 strenght!!!! Using it for a +4 or +6 is just not worth it.

Hope this puts some of u on the right track.

[7itanium]

ok first of all I would hardly consider this a guide

secondly... THE CRIT META IS OLD NEWS.... any good DK these days is using the agility/critical damage meta. I know we dont use agility- but the reason for the use of this meta is its activation requirements. Use 1 +10 stats gem in your helm with it and that automatically activates it leaving you room for more strength gems in the rest of your gear.

furthermore.. dont use orange gems for anything this is incorrect

USE RED STRENGTH GEMS IN EVERY SINGLE GEM SLOT YOU HAVE... doesnt matter what color the socket is as socket bonuses are crap.


any DK that gems anything other than strength (and maybe 1 or 2 arpen at the very most if ur blood.. but I dont use any) IS BAD

STRENGTH STRENGTH STRENGTH... and the agility meta (with 1 +10 stats gem to activate it)




end rant

[7itanium]

BTW I play a 5980 GS DK DPS as my main... I pull top dps in every raid I have been in in the last month

please dont question my knowledge base

[wac]

7itanium, Did you have to double-post just to add that you got meny epix?

Just because you got good gear doesn't matter you're skilled / wise. This guy is at least trying, although he should tried harder

(People are most likely gonna flame me just because 7itanium is yellow.)

ONT: You should put more effort into this. Tbh I don't play Death Knight. But the things stated above goes for all classes.

[Unholyshaman]

ok i will make this a short post so you dont fall asleep.

I keep seeing other Deathknight wandering around and rolling on Attackpower based gear This is BAD! if it has Attackpower and Agility its meant for Rogues Hunters Druids and maybe Warriors depending on build?? If it has Strenght!!!!!!! then its for DK Paladins Warriors. Trinkets are the exeption but i shouldnt have to tell u this.

Gems gems gems, how many people get this wrong! What in the blue hell is the point in using the +Crit head slot gem if u dont have the 2 Blue gems equiped to get the effect! And please for the love of god only use Orange gems when the socket bonus is +8 strenght!!!! Using it for a +4 or +6 is just not worth it.

Hope this puts some of u on the right track.

Look, it is good that you are trying to contribute, but honestly this seems a bit more of a nerd rage after a DK ninjad your item or something. If it was a sincere attempt at a guide then my apology.

As some above have said, you can't really call this a guide. MMOWned community sort of expects a higher quality level of guides that include things such as:
1) Links
2) Creative but professional use of colors
3) Images
4) Structured and easy to follow layout
5) Depth and evidence of research / knowledge

I would recommend checking out some of the other guides in the guides section, especially ones that have received many responses - and you shall see the sort of level of expectancy.

If you wish to try improve this guide I would recommend:
1) Explaining which gems are best for DKS (with proper names of the gems and links to them)
3) Explain WHY those gems are best (do some theory-crafting research at places such as ElitistJerks or ArenaJunkies).
4) Try give your guide more structure, so it does not just look like a rage post.

I will give you 1 reputation point for encouragement and for trying, but if you want more from me or possibly any from others, you really need to try step your game up.
Good luck

[Trollblod]

7itanium, Did you have to double-post just to add that you got meny epix?

Just because you got good gear doesn't matter you're skilled / wise. This guy is at least trying, although he should tried harder

(People are most likely gonna flame me just because 7itanium is yellow.)

ONT: You should put more effort into this. Tbh I don't play Death Knight. But the things stated above goes for all classes.

No, I agree.

[Guitars595]

/reroll ranged imo. Although I do have a death knight, I only use it for getting money and screwing around. I mostly use my mage. Yes, they're fun but there are too many of them now on most servers. -.-

[invadertag]

I keep seeing other Deathknight wandering around and rolling on Attackpower based gear This is BAD! if it has Attackpower and Agility its meant for Rogues Hunters Druids and maybe Warriors depending on build?? If it has Strenght!!!!!!! then its for DK Paladins Warriors. Trinkets are the exeption but i shouldnt have to tell u this.

Agreed.

And please for the love of god only use Orange gems when the socket bonus is +8 strenght!!!! Using it for a +4 or +6 is just not worth it.

False. Allow me to put you on the right track so you may increase your Damage Per Second output.

Here are some stat weights for unholy, we'll use the item level 251 list as an average:

Attack Power: 1.00
Strength: 3.03
Crit: 1.95
ArP: 2.25

What this means is each point of strength is worth 3.03 points of attack power, 1 point of crit being 1.95.

Obviously gemming for Arp is inferior to strength because they are both red gems and arp is only worth 2.25 attack power, while strength is 3.03.

Critical strike gems are yellow. Strength gems are red. And there are half-crit half-strength gems that are orange.

An item has 2 sockets (1 red 1 yellow) and a +4 Strength socket bonus.
Obviously you put a red gem in the red socket (20 str).
From here we have 2 options:
Another strength gem, or a 10 str 10 crit gem.

2 strength gems give you 40 strength from sockets*3.03 is a gain of 121.2

1 strenth gem and 1 crit/str gem + socket bonus gives 34 strength and 10 crit. a gain of 103.2+19.5 = 122.7

121.2<122.7 so gemming straight strength is inferior to using oranges in select slots.

Strenght

also its strength.


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USE RED STRENGTH GEMS IN EVERY SINGLE GEM SLOT YOU HAVE...

Definitely true for blood spec

any DK that gems anything other than strength (and maybe 1 or 2 arpen at the very most if ur blood.. but I dont use any) IS BAD

This is false, for an unholy dk its all situational, refer to the above list.

[lord nikon123]

well this was meant to be a quick short guide/helpful hints not a 7 page essay which most are, and to put a few people on the right path. [Working your way through some of the guids is a pain in the arse]. As every one has different gear and are always changing it there is no 100% right or wrong way to do things as some of ur stats like crit could be very low and adding an extra 1% so ur now at around 20% would be pointless just to get a +4 strength socket bonus. However doing it for a +8 is worth it.
And moving on to what 7itanium said having a nightmare tear in your head will always activate that socket anyway and having an item with a blue socket and a +8 strenght bonus is worth using as a -2 strenght for a better meta gem in your head slot is worth it.

Oh and i could do a very long and boring guide but there are loads of them around and not everyone understands all of the maths. Small hints tips and tricks will get used more.

[invadertag]

to put a few people on the right path.

Being incorrect is not the right path.

As every one has different gear and are always changing it there is no 100% right or wrong way to do things

There is, it's about numbers.

as some of ur stats like crit could be very low and adding an extra 1% so ur now at around 20% would be pointless just to get a +4 strength socket bonus.

adding an extra 1%

would be pointless

adding

would be pointless

However doing it for a +8 is worth it.

of course it is, if a +4 is worth it, so is a +8.

not everyone understands all of the maths.

121.2<122.7

[lord nikon123]

How constructive.......

[invadertag]

"adding" "would be pointless". but for the sake of content i would like to say that just because "not everyone understands all of the maths" doesn't mean you can go around giving obviously false information. You said gemming for crit isn't worth it, but it is, i proved it, so now you can use that piece of knowledge to your advantage in the future. You can then use those stat weights and expand upon what socket bonuses you should attempt to get at what values.

[Multitask]

this is terrible..... try writing you guide out in notepad first. you will be able to see it its shit or decent.

[tifaz]

ok i will make this a short post so you dont fall asleep.

I keep seeing other Deathknight wandering around and rolling on Attackpower based gear This is BAD! if it has Attackpower and Agility its meant for Rogues Hunters Druids and maybe Warriors depending on build?? If it has Strenght!!!!!!! then its for DK Paladins Warriors. Trinkets are the exeption but i shouldnt have to tell u this.

Gems gems gems, how many people get this wrong! What in the blue hell is the point in using the +Crit head slot gem if u dont have the 2 Blue gems equiped to get the effect! And please for the love of god only use Orange gems when the socket bonus is +8 strenght!!!! Using it for a +4 or +6 is just not worth it.

Hope this puts some of u on the right track.

this reads to be a more emo post of someone raging about dk's gear n gem then a guide...
just link EJ dk forum - Death Knights - Elitist Jerks
instead of making this.. would have saved u n us time

as for people with agil/ap gear on their dk. it might be an upgrade for them over their old gear. e.g 226 str belt to 245 leather belt is stil an upgrade....
as far as gem goes.. 20+str al the way n 1x 10+stat done.
im sure noone on this site has made the mistake on their dk so.. this post is pretty uselesss.......
one thing is for sure, everyplayer definally want the best resource setup for their own toon. therefore, their gear them to the best in their pov. on the other hand some people are just dumb or likes to run around in leather to piss u off. (clearly some of them done their job here lol)

[Doom1986]

Ok i just spent the last 6 hours changing all my gems and going back and forth to the training dummy. Using lord nikons gemming i was at 6218 dps after 3mins, [stoped at 3mins because thats when summon gargoyle cooldown finishes]. Using 7itaniums gemming i was at 6159 dps after 3 mins, wich is a small difference but still a difference. Using invadertags gemming i wanted to kill myself after failing like a noob and only doing 5718dps but i hit harder once in a while lol. [Each was tested 10 times and the numbers shown are the average].
So it seams that this guy knows what he is talking about and once again Elitist Jerks and other jerks get things wrong.
I would like to say that he went the wrong way about his original post and omg it needs work but has all the right idea even if it was just a rage!
I would give +small rep for making some effot.

P.S doing icc otherday saw a 5012gs dk do 6.8kdps overall data beating 5789gs dk's 6.4k! It's not all about gear but it can help.