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    [Guide] Sartharion 3 Drakes *Heroic*

    **SARTHARION THREE DRAKES (HEROIC) GUIDE**

    This guide is aimed at people/guilds working on Sartharion with three drakes (S3D)

    Raid Comp

    A Death Knight makes the best Sarth. tank because of their cooldowns that are on a very short duration.

    2 other tanks are needed, one for the drakes (class doesn't matter), and one for the adds (pref. a pally)
    Classes that can AOE well are important for killing the adds throughout the fight.
    One plate-wearer is needed to handle the disciples in the twilight realm, But a shaman or boomkin can be used.
    6 Healers is the best because the extra dps you gain from it is much more important then another healer or two.

    1-2 rogues are NECESSARY to dispel the Elemental's enrage. This is done by using
    anesthetic poison on both weapons and using fan of knives. Our rogues chose to have 2 sets of weapons, one with DPS poisons and one set with Dispel Poisons and swap them out when dpsing on drakes and dispelling.

    Raid Position
    The drakes are going to land on the platform at their respective spots.


    Tenebron (the easiest one) lands first in the back of the platform. Then Shadron to the left, and Vesperon to the right.

    Sarth. needs to be dragged to the bottom left corner at the start of the fight, with the tank standing right on the edge of the platform.

    Tenebron should be picked up at the back of the platform as soon as he lands, with the raid nearby. After the first lava wave, it is then advisable to have the tank to move over to where Shadron spawns to pick him up fast. The same thing with Vesperon while Shadron is up, moving from the left side of the platform over to Vesperon's spawn on the right.

    • STAY SPREAD OUT!!! Lava strikes hit for 13k and can easily gib a group of players, causing the raid to wipe.

    Blaze/Welp Tank
    A pally is highly recomended for this due to their awesome ability to tank multiple mobs. Make sure to have your tank stand on top of the portal and have a consecrate or some other ability ready to pick up all the whelps.

    Tips for warriors: have your vigilance on someone getting hit often (the drake tank), as the refreshed taunts make it far easier. Save shockwave for whelps, freely use combat charge and intervene.
    Drakes and Their Effects
    Tenebron: +100% shadow damage taken
    Shadron
    : +100% fire damage taken
    Vesperon
    : -25% health

    Disciple of Shadron(the guy in the portal)
    :+50% fire damage
    Disciple of Vesperon
    : Twilight Torment: 2-3k damage taken when you deal damage; +75% damage from Sartharion's breath

    When Shadron and Vesperon are up your tank will be taking this from flame breath:

    Base damage: 11k-14k
    Power of Shadron: 22k-28k
    Acolyte of Shadron
    : 33k-42k
    Twilight Torment
    : 57k-74k

    • To survive these attacks defensive tanking cooldowns along with pain suppression and guardian spirit must be used. You should set up a rotation for your healers to do so when it happens. If you are having trouble, a druid/boomkin can hurricane sarth (one of the exploits posted here) to reduce his attack/cast speed by 50% for more time tp react. Fire resist potions are also a nice addition to survive those nasty breaths.

    Portals? Yeah Right
    Tenebron: NEVER, its better to kill the whelps with the adds and you should only have to deal with one wave. If you are dealing with more than one wave of whelps, you don't have enough dps to do the fight.

    Shadron: No. Heal through the damage. Though it can be done, it makes the fight longer, it is better to just heal through it. TAKE the portal after he is dead since Shadron's acolyte will still be up and a be danger to your tank.

    Vesperon: Yes or No. The fight is over at this point after the first two drakes are dead, you might as well go kill him so the raid is taking less damage from his aura and there is even less of a chance to wipe.
    Void Zones-The Silent Killer
    TURN YOUR SPELL DETAIL DOWN TO LOW. This allows the Void Zones to show up clearly show up clearly with no interference from other AOE/Effects. DO THIS.
    The Fight


    • Tank pulls Sarth. over to his spot and stands at the edge of the platform to dodge the lava waves (by stepping into lave). DPS can lightly dps sarth, and melee should get in position at Tenebron's spawn because he drops in about 30 seconds.


    • Tenebron spawns and the tank picks him up, at this time a lava wave should come: DPS and tank be ready. Paladins should put on Righteous Fury and stand on top of the Blaze/Whelp tank, to keep them from pulling to other healers around the platform. Whelps will spawn at about 50% or so and the Blaze tank must pick them up. DPS continues on Tenebron until he is dead, do not AOE until so.


    • Shadron lands 45 seconds after Tenebron did. After Tenebron dies, all AoE kill the whelps and any lava spawns that are up. If heroism wasn't used on Tenebron, use it on Shadron. I would personally recomend using it on Shadron. Continue to DPS him and around 40% or so, if your dps is good, Vesperon should land.


    • Vesperon, lands about 50 seconds after Shadron. This is the hardest part: Twighlight torment, two drakes on your tank, and 75k firebreaths are nothing to laugh at. Sarth's breath casts about every 12 to 30 seconds, and your tank needs a cooldown for each of these from himself or a healer. The two-second long cast gives you a window to react, but you need to have planned ahead of time who is going to use what when.


    • After Shadron died we decided to not take Veperon's portals, so make sure to go into Shadron's last one after his death to kill the acolyte.


    • Continue to Aoe the blazes when there are around 8-10 up (just a guess from my observations).


    • After Vesperon dies the fight is basicly over. Just dont die to flame walls and be sure to not let the Blazes overwhelm you.

    The hardest part of this fight is not dying to Flame Walls and Void Zones.
    The tip again if you didn't catch it: Make people pay money for dying to them


    Hope this helps those that are having trouble.

    Enjoy

    Tips from posters that i forgot:
    Originally Posted by Roffle View Post
    My guild, and every guild on my server that has completed the encounter (To my knowledge) has used a feral druid with a stamina set as a main tank, taking advantage of the incredibly high stamina available on the leather frost resist gear.
    Last edited by CuT; 01-30-2009 at 12:12 AM.

    [Guide] Sartharion 3 Drakes *Heroic*
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    excellent guide, very easy to understand and i <3 the color assortment

    my guild is still having a hard time with 2 drakes but we'll do 3 drakes first attempt next week gonna refer to this

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    They changed sarth+3 in the patch. you pretty much need to go in the portals now or the twilight torment will rape people, since its up the whole fight now

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    When reading this, I thought I heard it all before. Not saying that you actually copy and pasted from this video but it seems close. None the less Good guide. also check out this video people.

    Sarth25 + 3: A Tutorial By Kyth (StratFu)
    Without Purpose, You Cannot Exist.

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    Maybe it's because the information is common knowledge but I get the feeling of a repost from either StratFU or WoWWiki but I lack the energy to go find it to make that confirmation.

    As for the people posting you always need to take portals, that's not the case. And for needing rogues to wear Anesthetic, neither are true. If anything I would say both of these suggestions are detrimental to raid progression. We 1 shot Sarth +3 each week so I'm not speaking blindly here either.

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    Great guide man ! Using this my guild managed to do this on the first try ^,^ +rep

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    Originally Posted by ekn View Post
    Great guide man ! Using this my guild managed to do this on the first try ^,^ +rep
    Somehow I HIGHLY doubt this.

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    The fight has drastically changed and requires you to take the portals now (with exception of the Tenebron one). It is practically impossible to 1-shot the fight if it's your first time as well.
    Panda Panda Panda

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    Originally Posted by Pietje View Post
    The fight has drastically changed and requires you to take the portals now (with exception of the Tenebron one).
    We only take the portal for Vesperon. That's all we've ever done. Nothing has changed for us since the patch. We normally 5 or 6 heal it too.

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    Originally Posted by ekn View Post
    Great guide man ! Using this my guild managed to do this on the first try ^,^ +rep
    we've been farming this guy for about 2 months now and it took us about 5 tries to down him after the patch. there's no way you one shot him your first try

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    Originally Posted by Pari4h View Post
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    Pretty good guide, but I'd like to point out a few things from my experience with it. My guild, and every guild on my server that has completed the encounter (To my knowledge) has used a feral druid with a stamina set as a main tank, taking advantage of the incredibly high stamina available on the leather frost resist gear. Along with that, don't playa hate! Warriors and death knights especially, can have just as easy a time tanking adds as a paladin can.

    Another benefit with a warrior on adds: Put vigilance up on the sartharion tank. The threat is a non issue because nobody is dpsing the boss whilst drakes are up, and this gives the warrior tank a no cooldown taunt, which is especially useful for picking up lava blazes as they spawn. (The small reduced damage taken from the main tank doesn't hurt either)

    Also, it is IMPERATIVE to kill Tenebron before he is able to spawn a second wave of adds, due to this I'd advise using hero immediately after he lands. A misdirect on the drake tank should be enough to get him started and keeping him above the dps. Hopefully you'll get Tenebron pretty close to dying as Shadron lands.

    I'd also recommend killing Vesperon's disciple after he goes down, it doesn't take much to kill him, and only makes the rest of the fight even easier.

    As for the second heroism, wait for around 20-15% so you can take advantage of the full duration, and you have it up during the enrage.

    Hope this info helps

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    Originally Posted by Pari4h View Post
    Maybe it's because the information is common knowledge but I get the feeling of a repost from either StratFU or WoWWiki but I lack the energy to go find it to make that confirmation.
    No, i wrote this myself in about a hour. It has like 3 sentences that are copied because i could not say it better.

    You DO NOT have to take the portals still.

    Originally Posted by Roffle View Post
    Pretty good guide, but I'd like to point out a few things from my experience with it. My guild, and every guild on my server that has completed the encounter (To my knowledge) has used a feral druid with a stamina set as a main tank, taking advantage of the incredibly high stamina available on the leather frost resist gear. Along with that, don't playa hate! Warriors and death knights especially, can have just as easy a time tanking adds as a paladin can.

    Another benefit with a warrior on adds: Put vigilance up on the sartharion tank. The threat is a non issue because nobody is dpsing the boss whilst drakes are up, and this gives the warrior tank a no cooldown taunt, which is especially useful for picking up lava blazes as they spawn. (The small reduced damage taken from the main tank doesn't hurt either)

    Also, it is IMPERATIVE to kill Tenebron before he is able to spawn a second wave of adds, due to this I'd advise using hero immediately after he lands. A misdirect on the drake tank should be enough to get him started and keeping him above the dps. Hopefully you'll get Tenebron pretty close to dying as Shadron lands.

    I'd also recommend killing Vesperon's disciple after he goes down, it doesn't take much to kill him, and only makes the rest of the fight even easier.

    As for the second heroism, wait for around 20-15% so you can take advantage of the full duration, and you have it up during the enrage.

    Hope this info helps
    Pretty much all the stuff i said . We can dps Tenebron fine, only getting one set of adds, so hero. was used on shadron: seemed to work better (we did the encounter in about 12 hours-3days-). The druid portion is something i forgot to add, ill quote you and put it in. The only other guild to do this on our server, took them 4 weeks, used a druid.
    Last edited by CuT; 01-30-2009 at 10:24 PM.

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    Neat and Nice.

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    yes, very neat and nice

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