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    [Guide] Tank as a Rogue

    Ahoi.

    This guide should help everyone, who want to train once his rogue for tanking or should show other how he exactly works. To illustrate this better and to give a good overview, there will be several chapters where you can read up the specific features.

    Overview

    1. Attributes
    2. Talents
    3. Buffs & Enchants
    4. Equip
    5. Tanking in Groups
    6. Tanking in Raids
    7. Links

    Chapter 1 - Attributes

    In this chapter we speak about the most important attributes of a tankrogue.

    The most important attribute is Agility. Its the key to success as a tank. Agility is important for Dodge, and without Dodge a tankrogue is a standardrogue.
    Therefore, this attribute must be promoted especially far upwards. The other both important attributes are Parry and the chance to be missed
    . These will be relatively low in contrast to Dodge, but are as important to reach the Avoidcap. The actuall Avoidcap for Rogues is 101.8%.


    Chapter 2 - Talents

    WorldofWarcraft.com -> Info -> Classes -> Rogue -> Talent Calculator

    Combat-Tree
    ยท 5% Dodge - Needed for the cap
    ยท Imp. SnD - It is necessary, you generate more whitehits and raise the threat
    ยท 5% Parry - Also needed for the cap
    ยท Precision - 5% free Hit!
    ยท Riposte - Useful for Trashmobs
    ยท Dual Wield Specialization- For reaching the 21-Point-Talents
    ยท Blade Flurry- Needed to raise threat
    Subtletly - Tree
    ยท Master of Deception- Not really usefull, only to reach the other talents
    ยท Dirty Tricks - "

    ยท Camouflage - "
    ยท Initiative - An extra combopoint is usefull for threat.
    ยท Ghostly Strike - 15% Dodge for 7 Seconds, try to hold CD on it
    ยท Setup - One of the main suppliers for combopoints = threat
    ยท Serrated Blades - Decreases the armor, not unimportant
    ยท Preparation - Resets all CDs
    ยท Dirty Deeds - For faster threat
    ยท Hemorrhage - Great for raise your threat.
    ยท Deadliness - More DPS - more threat.
    ยท Premeditation - 2 extra combopoints
    ยท Cheat Death - Reduces the chance to get onehitted. 1min CD
    ยท Sinister Calling - 15% more Agility is important for the Avoidcap, 5% more Damage with Hemorrhage is important for threat

    Chapter 3 - Buffs & Enchants

    4.1 - Buffs
    ยท Elixir of Major Agility - +35 Agi & 20 Critchance
    ยท Warp Burger - 20 Agility
    ยท Grilled Mudfish - 20 Agility
    ยท Scroll of Agility V - 20 Agility


    External Buffs from other classes

    ยท Scorpid Sting - Chance to be missed increased by 5%
    ยท Insect Swarm - Chance to be missed increased by 2%
    ยท Imp. Mark of the Wild - 460 armor & +19 to all attributes
    ยท Imp. Grace of Air Totem - +88 Agility
    ยท Blessing of Kings - All attributes +10%
    ยท Boss Base Miss - Bosses have a 5% chance to miss


    4.2 - Enchants & Gems

    Head
    ยท Glyph of the Defender - Item - World of Warcraft

    Shoulders
    ยท Greater Inscription of the Knight - Item - World of Warcraft
    ยท Greater Inscription of Warding - Item - World of Warcraft

    Chest
    ยท Enchant Chest - Defense - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Bracers
    ยท Enchant Bracer - Major Defense - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Gloves
    ยท Enchant Gloves - Superior Agility - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Legs
    ยท Nethercleft Leg Armor - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Boots
    ยท Enchant Boots - Dexterity - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Weapons
    ยท Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Cloak
    ยท Enchant Cloak - Greater Agility - Spell - World of Warcraft

    Gems
    ยท Delicate Crimson Spinel - Item - World of Warcraft
    ยท Delicate Living Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft
    ยท Delicate Blood Garnet - Item - World of Warcraft


    Chapter 4 - Equip

    Head
    Deathblow X11 Goggles - Item - World of Warcraft
    Grimgrin Faceguard - Item - World of Warcraft
    Slayer's Helm - Item - World of Warcraft

    Necklace
    Necklace of the Deep - Item - World of Warcraft
    The Darkener's Grasp - Item - World of Warcraft

    Shoulders
    Brutal Gladiator's Leather Spaulders - Item - World of Warcraft
    Slayer's Shoulderpads - Item - World of Warcraft
    Deathmantle Shoulderpads - Item - World of Warcraft

    Chest
    Slayer's Chestguard - Item - World of Warcraft
    Auchenai Monk's Tunic - Item - World of Warcraft
    Shadowprowler's Chestguard - Item - World of Warcraft

    Bracers
    Insidious Bands - Item - World of Warcraft
    Guardian's Leather Bracers - Item - World of Warcraft
    Slayer's Bracers - Item - World of Warcraft


    Gloves
    Gloves of Dexterous Manipulation - Item - World of Warcraft
    Wastewalker Gloves - Item - World of Warcraft

    Belt
    Belt of Deep Shadow - Item - World of Warcraft
    Belt of One-Hundred Deaths - Item - World of Warcraft

    Legs
    Leggings of the Immortal Night - Item - World of Warcraft
    Skulker's Greaves - Item - World of Warcraft
    Trousers of the Scryers' Retainer - Item - World of Warcraft

    Boots
    Nimble-foot Treads - Item - World of Warcraft
    Shadowmaster's Boots - Item - World of Warcraft

    Rings
    Delicate Eternium Ring - Item - World of Warcraft
    Ring of Sundered Souls - Item - World of Warcraft
    Elementium Band of the Sentry - Item - World of Warcraft
    Hard Khorium Band - Item - World of Warcraft
    Angelista's Revenge - Item - World of Warcraft

    Trinkets
    Shadowmoon Insignia - Item - World of Warcraft
    Scarab of Displacement - Item - World of Warcraft
    Guardian's Alchemist Stone - Item - World of Warcraft
    Figurine - Empyrean Tortoise - Item - World of Warcraft
    Moroes' Lucky Pocket Watch - Item - World of Warcraft

    Weapons
    Rage - Item - World of Warcraft
    Blade of Infamy - Item - World of Warcraft
    Talon of Azshara - Item - World of Warcraft
    Umbral Shiv - Item - World of Warcraft
    Messenger of Fate - Item - World of Warcraft
    Claw of the Phoenix - Item - World of Warcraft

    Ranged Weapon
    Barrel-Blade Longrifle - Item - World of Warcraft
    Twisted Blades of Zarak - Item - World of Warcraft
    Legionkiller - Item - World of Warcraft
    Arcanite Steam-Pistol - Item - World of Warcraft

    Cloak
    Phoenix-Wing Cloak - Item - World of Warcraft
    Slikk's Cloak of Placation - Item - World of Warcraft
    Cloak of Enduring Swiftness - Item - World of Warcraft

    Chapter 5 - Tanking in Groups

    In this part we come on to speak how you have to behave as a tank rogue in a normal instance or in a heroic and how you can get to tank in a 5 man-group.

    How to keep threat?
    Pull some Trash Mobs and activate Blade Furry, attack with Ghostly Strike to minimize the first damage. Before the death of 1 Mob, attack the other one to get a slight advance with threat.

    Beware of going in instances with a casterboss. Your avoidcap is usefull for normal bosses, but you gonna die very fast at casterbosses.

    Chapter 6 - Tanking in Raids


    Most of the people think, Rogues are Onehit-VIctims in Raids. But since a Rogue tanked Gruul & Illidan its not impossible.
    Be sure that you got all the Buffs on you and Debuffs on the Boss.
    If you reached the Avoidcap, you are able to tank a boss.
    With the cap, there is only a chance of 0,0000000001% to get a hit. This hit should be a onehit, but you got Cheat Death, so here your healers have to heal you.

    For the Threat should be 2-3 Hunters with a Misdirection-Rotation. You should also work for a good rotation and pay attention on totems, debuffs etc for a neat bosskill.

    In the following list the 10th as well as 25th Raids will be listed with their bosses. If behind a boss the sign \'X \ ' is, hes not tankable. If you read \'E \ ', he is tankable under restrictions. Under it the bosses who have several companions fall, e.g., Maulgar.

    Karazhan

    ยท Attumen
    ยท Moroes
    ยท Maid
    ยท Opera Event (E)
    ยท Kurator
    ยท Ilhoof
    ยท Netherspite
    ยท Malchezaar


    Zul'Aman

    ยท Akil'zon (X)
    ยท Nalorakk (E)
    ยท Jan'alai (E)
    ยท Halazzi
    ยท Hexxlord (E)
    ยท Zul'jin (E)


    Gruul's Lair


    ยท Maulgar (E)
    ยท Gruul


    Magtheridon's Lair

    ยท Magtheridon


    Serpentshrine Caverns

    ยท Hydross (E)
    ยท Lurker
    ยท Tidewalker
    ยท Karathress (E)
    ยท Leotheras (E)
    ยท Lady Vashj


    Tempest Keep

    ยท A'lar (E)
    ยท Void Reaver (E)
    ยท Kael'thas Sunstrider (E)


    Hyjal Summit

    ยท Winterchill
    ยท Anetheron
    ยท Kaz'rogal (X)
    ยท Azgalor
    ยท Archimonde (E)


    Black Temple

    ยท Naj'entus
    ยท Supremus (E)
    ยท Akama (X)
    ยท Gorefiend
    ยท Bloodboil (E) (needs Offtank)
    ยท Reliquary of Souls (X)
    ยท Mother Shahraz
    ยท Illidari Council (X)
    ยท Illidan

    Chapter 7 - Links

    ยท Untouchable Rogue 1: Mother Shahraz By Gaeowyn

    ยท Untouchable 2: 5-man Gruul By Gaeowyn

    ยท Armory Sheet http://shadowpanther.net/armor-tank.htm

    ยท Great Site for Rogues ShadowPanther.net - World of Warcraft Rogue Info - Charts, Articles, Guides & more!


    Credits to Miranir from the WoW-Forums.
    I just translated it into (bad) english and modified a bit.



    Last edited by Yo Dawg; 09-07-2008 at 05:05 AM. Reason: other font.

    [Guide] Tank as a Rogue
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    Originally Posted by Feelthelove View Post
    I just translated it into (bad) english and modified a bit.
    The english ain't bad, it's great, and here, have a rep!+Rep
    EDIT: GZ with your first rep. =D

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    The english ain't bad, it's great, and here, have a rep!+Rep
    EDIT: GZ with your first rep. =D
    Thank you

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    If I understand well, you basicly stun lock more than tank right?

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    I think you should change the font a bit..

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    god damnit use a different font color
    Zomfg. And no, don't ask. - Dombo did it.

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    I heard about a rogue tanking before from a friend and at first I thought "Wtf?"
    But now that I see this, I think its hilarious! Now I am going to go find me a tanking rogue for an instance =D

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    My copy pasta senses are tingling.


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    It dosent matter if its a copy and paste, if its not on the site and it is important or new then you post it... +rep from me.



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    finalball's Avatar Active Member
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    Originally Posted by Scrubs View Post
    It dosent matter if its a copy and paste, if its not on the site and it is important or new then you post it... +rep from me.
    Not giving credit if you copy pasted it is plagerism (I know to god i didnt spell that right) which may not be against the rules, but its against the law. He needs to give credit to who he took it from, or no Copy Pasta rep from me.

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    Nice Guide! Thanks!

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    Nice , trying it out.

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    lol you got all your stuff from warcraftvideos.com its the same exact stuff from the mans 5 man gruuls and his 5 man illidan video get your own stuff

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    Yo Dawg's Avatar Active Member
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    lol you got all your stuff from warcraftvideos.com its the same exact stuff from the mans 5 man gruuls and his 5 man illidan video get your own stuff
    I cant see anything that is the same.

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