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    How to PvE as a ROGUE

    First: This guide can also be used by ebay bought rouges

    I want to make it easyer for new lvl 70's to play their rogues a nice way.
    So lets start off with the DMG cycle.
    Basically you just Spam 1 key and finish with 4 different spells:

    Here the Specc you should use in raids to do maxdamage:
    Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft (20/41/0)
    You should use swords to play with this, else dont skill Sword Specc, skill your weapon specc

    Sinister Strike [SS] is the skill you hit all over to generate you CPs
    ------------
    Slice and Dice [SnD] is the skill you will use after you have build up to 4 CP (1 with T4 bonus)

    If the Mob you are fighting is immune to Poisons you will use Eviscerate to finish him else you finish with a 5CP 5 Deadly Poison[DP] Dose of Envenom.

    If you are fighting a Boss use Rupture to Finish and than begin the cycle from the begining.

    Because most Mobs in Raid instance are immune to Stun effects you open the battle witch Garrote.


    Here an example for a Boss fight with 2 T4 items equipped:

    [stealth] -> Garrote -> SnD -> build 5CP with SS -> Rupture -> 1CP Snd -> build 5CP and cast Rupture, cycle until boss is down.

    Gear:
    I dont want to talk about best gear in this part I just want to say what Item stats are most usefull for rogues in PvE

    There are several facts wich are involved in a rogues damage, in my opinion you should get your:

    HITRATING up to 280 first, wich will be enough for raids like SSC and TK when raiding this raids you should look for items wich improve your hitrating more to get over 350 hit (363 is the "magic nuber" wich means the hitcap, if you got 363 hit you will NEVER miss a lvl 73 Elite Boss)

    after this ATTACKPOWER is the thing you should maximize with enchants like 12 agility on cloak or Assault on Bracers - most usefull is the Leatherworking leg armor witch 50 Attackpower and 12 Critrating.

    When your attackpower is like ~2000 you should go to the next step and

    search for items with Armor Penetration and Hasterating... sadly i have not reached the attackpower size ( got 1900) but I will complete this when i reached it

    Enchants:
    Head - Cenarius Expedition
    Soulders - Aldor / Scryers
    Chest - 6 Stats
    Bracers - Assault ( 24 AP i think)
    Gloves - 15 Agility / Assault
    Legs - Leg Armor, best is with 50 AP
    Boots - 12 Agi if Hitcap reached, else Surefooted

    Weapons - 2x Mongoose, if you have sth like 800 Armor Penetration use Executioner for Mainhand.

    Food / Flasks / Buffs:

    Get some 20 Agi bufffood (20 hit if you have less 280 hit)
    Flask of Recentless Assault makes most DPS+ but a Elixier of agility will be enough for most raids.
    Some nice things are Hast Potions wich improve your hasterating by 400 for 15 seconds i think.

    ALWAS USE Deadly Poison, if a melee shaman is in your group only on offhand (!) to gain WindFury Buff.


    So, would be nice if I could gain some +Rep for this, ill improve and
    complete it when I can say more to this class :wave:

    P.s.: sry for my bad english
    Last edited by JaCkaL; 07-19-2008 at 12:44 PM.

    How to PvE as a ROGUE
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    suicidewarpig's Avatar Active Member
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    Seems like a wimpy guide if you ask me. Add some more. Put in armor suggestions. Things like that.

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    Nice guide!

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    You wont get windfury if you have a poison on your mainhand?
    ('''''\( ;....: )/''''') RAWR Laggbear!!

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    JaCkaL's Avatar Member
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    Put in armor suggestions
    If i put in armor suggestions i would say: go and take on T6, thats why I decided to do it with stats:stick:

    You wont get windfury if you have a poison on your mainhand?
    NOPE!

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    No, you don't, both count as a weapon buff and you can't have more than one at a time.
    With Wrath of the Lich King the Windfury totem will be changed to 20% melee haste instead of an extra attack and it'll count as a normal and not a weapon buff (if I understood that correct, that is).

    For armor you could just visit shadowpanther.net - has some very nice lists.

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    if you dont want to be sat for raids you will NOT follow this guide all the way through. im sorry eviscerate? it was fail right after that.

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    if you dont want to be sat for raids you will NOT follow this guide all the way through. im sorry eviscerate? it was fail right after that.
    STUPID? What finisher do u wanna use if mob is immune to nature dmg? rupture wich doesnt tick the full time ? cO

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    SPAM SINISTER STRIKE

    ^^^^^^
    the real rogue pve guide

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    JaCkaL's Avatar Member
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    yes, sinister strike is the key you can spam to build combo point, you wont come far as a rogue if you just use finishers oder gouge

    edit: PWNED!
    Last edited by JaCkaL; 07-19-2008 at 04:25 PM.

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    Hit rating is overated.

    I have 251 hit rating and do well in SSC/TK/MH/BT.

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    Lawl raiding is srs bsns

    Originally Posted by Silentino View Post
    You wont get windfury if you have a poison on your mainhand?

    Holy shit you're terrible.

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    Infact, i say you need 200 for Kara 270 (buffed) for tier5 and 320+ for Tier6 raids.

    Nice guide, you could possibly add some more DPS circles used in differect occasions, not just 1s5r , and explain things a little more

    +Rep

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    Originally Posted by JaCkaL View Post
    STUPID? What finisher do u wanna use if mob is immune to nature dmg? rupture wich doesnt tick the full time ? cO
    Rupture will always do more damage than Eviscerate unless the mob is immune to bleed effects. Rupture isn't mitigated by armor like Eviscerate. Void Reaver has more armor than any boss currently, at 8000. That reduces your usual 1200 damage Eviscerate to roughly 700.

    I have a measly 1770 AP, and my rupture does 1425 (1000+(AP*0.24)) damage over 16 seconds. Eviscerate would do 1250 (985+(AP*0.15)) at most. The kicker here is rupture is cheaper, leaving more time to spam SS and keep SnD fresh. More often than naught, my rupture runs it's last tick right as I get that 5th combo point to renew it.

    But what do I know. My rogue is just an alt.

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