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    19 Guide for every class part 1

    I know this can be found everywhere,but I know A LOT about 19 twinks,so this is the right info.

    Warrior:

    Weapon: Glacial Stone/Runic Darkblade +Crusader

    Head: Lucky Fishing Hat +100 HP
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulder: Serpent's Shoulders
    Back: Sentry Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Blackened Defias Chest +100 HP
    Wrist: Defender Bracers of Bear +3 Sta +3 Str +9 Stamina
    Hands: Thorbia Gauntlets +15 Agility
    Waist: Cobrahn's Grasp
    Legs: Mighty Chain Pants +40 Stamina +12 Agility
    Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master

    Rogue

    MH: Cruel Barb +Lifestealing
    OH: WSG Dagger +15 Agility
    Ranged: Throat Piercers

    Head: Lucky Fishing Hat +100 HP
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulder: Serpent's Shoulders
    Back: Sentry Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Blackened Defias Chest +100 HP
    Wrist: Wrangler's Wristbands of Monkey +3 Agility +3 Stamina +9 Stamina
    Hands: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey +15 Agility
    Waist: Deviate Scale Belt
    Legs: Scouting Trousers/Rigid Pants/Bandit Pants of the Monkey +40 Stamina +12 Agility
    Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master

    Paladin:

    Weapon: Seraph's Strike/Runic Darkblade +Crusader

    Head: Lucky Fishing Hat +100 HP
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulder: Talbar Mantle
    Back: Engineer's Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Blackened Defias Chest +100 HP
    Wrist: Defender Bracers of Bear +3 Sta +3 Str +9 Stamina
    Hands: Thorbia Gauntlets +15 Agility
    Waist: Cobrahn's Grasp
    Legs: Mighty Chain Pants +40 Stamina +12 Agility
    Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master

    Hunter:


    Weapon: Twisted Chanter's Staff +25 Agility

    Head: Lucky Fishing Hat +100 HP
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulder: Serpent's Shoulders
    Back: Sentry Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Blackened Defias Chest/Tunic of Westfall (If Alliance) +100 HP
    Wrist: Wrangler's Wristbands of Monkey +3 Agility +3 Stamina +9 Stamina
    Hands: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey +15 Agility
    Waist: Deviate Scale Belt
    Legs: Scouting Trousers/Rigid Pants/Bandit Pants of the Monkey +40 Stamina +12 Agility
    Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master

    Shaman:

    Weapon: Twisted Chanter's Staff +30 Spelldamage

    Head: Green Tinted Goggles/Shadow Goggles/Lucky Fishing Hat +150 Mana
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulders: Talbar Mantle
    Back: Engineer's Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Tree Bark Jacket +100 Mana
    Wrist: Mindthrust Bracers +9 Stamina
    Hands: Magefist Gloves +20 Fire Damage
    Waist: Keller's Girdle
    Legs: Darkweave Breeches +35 Spell Damage +20 Stamina
    Feet: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) / Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Engineering Trinket/Arena Grand Master (swap em when the CDs are ready)

    19 Guide for every class part 1
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    Nice guide... Cant rep you because I have to wait 24 hours!

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    Good work, I'm sure people will use it.

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    some of this stuff is debateable...
    not to flame just saying like what kind of player you are.
    rogues are my specialty for twinking, now for rogues
    theres different things you can do

    DPS rogue -- having a assassin's blade MH and ambush with pvp dagger in offhand the make a macro to shadowfang MH and then to assassins in OH is a nice dps combo with mostly AGI chants and all
    3 agi to back and 8 agi to helm and possibly 50 attack power and 20 crit or whatever it is on legs for max dps

    health rogues -- generally sword rogues so most likely shadowfang with pvp dagger in OH or a cruel barb in OH. with all stam chants on gear and whatnot

    dodge rogues -- Pure agi/dodge chants like 12 dodge to helm and cloak
    usually with daggers - assassins in MH And pvp dagger in OH...

    you inspired me ill post my own with a rogue guide.
    and yes i understand that you were postig a easier guide and you cannot get into specifics..
    like i said i know mostly about rogue twinks... not much about others and i will + rep y0u for giving it a good attempt

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    u forgot priest: Hogger loot ftw

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    Hunter:


    Weapon: Twisted Chanter's Staff +25 Agility

    Head: Lucky Fishing Hat +100 HP
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulder: Serpent's Shoulders
    Back: Sentry Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Blackened Defias Chest/Tunic of Westfall (If Alliance) +100 HP
    Wrist: Wrangler's Wristbands of Monkey +3 Agility +3 Stamina +9 Stamina
    Hands: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey +15 Agility
    Waist: Deviate Scale Belt
    Legs: Scouting Trousers/Rigid Pants/Bandit Pants of the Monkey +40 Stamina +12 Agility
    Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master
    12 dodge rating? no way, +3 agility = 0.38% dodge rating wich is way better then 0.12% >_>



    MH: Cruel Barb +Lifestealing
    OH: WSG Dagger +15 Agility

    Ranged: Throat Piercers

    Head: Lucky Fishing Hat +100 HP
    Neck: WSG Reward
    Shoulder: Serpent's Shoulders
    Back: Sentry Cloak +12 Dodge Rating
    Chest: Blackened Defias Chest +100 HP
    Wrist: Wrangler's Wristbands of Monkey +3 Agility +3 Stamina +9 Stamina
    Hands: Scouting Gloves of the Monkey +15 Agility
    Waist: Deviate Scale Belt
    Legs: Scouting Trousers/Rigid Pants/Bandit Pants of the Monkey +40 Stamina +12 Agility
    Boots: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master
    Main Hand: Shadowfang +15 agility
    Off-Hand: Thief's Blade +15 agility
    Cloak: Sentry's Cloak +3 agility




    PS: b4 you go 'omfg you nub you know notin bout twinking' check out my paladin/rogue:
    rogue: The World of Warcraft Armory
    paladin: (unfinished) The World of Warcraft Armory
    Last edited by Xyphoz; 06-30-2008 at 04:23 PM.

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    12 dodge rating is EXACTLY 4.73% dodge chance for rogues.

    lifestealing is actually better for rogues, wherst 15 agility= around 1.3 DPS, and u have 2x weapons,so it will give you bonus 2.6 DPS in all. in 1 minute you will have around 156 bonus dmg, also 15 agi will give you around 1.5% dodge and around 1% crit chance.

    when lifestealing has 6PPM rate, it will do 180 damage and 180 healing.

    isnt 180 damage/healing better than 156 damage/1-2 more dodges outta 100 attacks/1 crit outta 100 attacks?

    and about your rogue,get Throat Piercers/Thick Bronze Darts and get +3 agility if you think it is that great ^^

    kkthxbai

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    Originally Posted by Rapt0R View Post



    12 dodge rating is EXACTLY 4.73% dodge chance for rogues.

    lifestealing is actually better for rogues, wherst 15 agility= around 1.3 DPS, and u have 2x weapons,so it will give you bonus 2.6 DPS in all. in 1 minute you will have around 156 bonus dmg, also 15 agi will give you around 1.5% dodge and around 1% crit chance.

    when lifestealing has 6PPM rate, it will do 180 damage and 180 healing.

    isnt 180 damage/healing better than 156 damage/1-2 more dodges outta 100 attacks/1 crit outta 100 attacks?

    and about your rogue,get Throat Piercers/Thick Bronze Darts and get +3 agility if you think it is that great ^^

    kkthxbai
    12 dodge rating is 0.12% dodge rating according to the GMs ( I actually send a ticket about it ) but either way 3 agility also adds crit chance and more AP... and 15 agility is WAY better then Lifestealing, due to the fact is increases both CRIT, Dodge and Attack Power.. so whatya rather to have? over 60% dodge or 40% dodge and chance to heal 160... id rather more dodge but yeah thats just me : )

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    omfg Im telling you EXACT formulas, 12 dodge rating costs way MORE than 3 agi,thats why it gives 4.73% dodge chance, 3 agi gives like 0.1% crit chance,and like 0.3 dps.

    15 agility gives 2% crit 3% dodge and 1.3 DPS. Lifestealing procs a lot in my experience (way more than 6 times) .

    either L2P or review something before you post.

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    Originally Posted by Rapt0R View Post
    omfg Im telling you EXACT formulas, 12 dodge rating costs way MORE than 3 agi,thats why it gives 4.73% dodge chance, 3 agi gives like 0.1% crit chance,and like 0.3 dps.

    15 agility gives 2% crit 3% dodge and 1.3 DPS. Lifestealing procs a lot in my experience (way more than 6 times) .

    either L2P or review something before you post.

    3 agility gives 0.30% crit and 0.48% dodge and 3 attack power...
    15 agility gives 1.5x% crit and 2.4x% dodge chance..

    Better you review something b4 you post, dodge rating is way better then lifestealing, but yeah if you want to die in 2 hits go ahead and use lifestealing, go search for the best rogue twinks on a few servers and they'll all say 15 agility is better then lifestealing.... beside, I dont need to l2p, i got 2 lvl 70s in 8/8 t6, and I am the best rogue twink on my server, so hush baby, hush.

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    rofl i like it.
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    Originally Posted by Xyphoz View Post
    3 agility gives 0.30% crit and 0.48% dodge and 3 attack power...
    15 agility gives 1.5x% crit and 2.4x% dodge chance..

    Better you review something b4 you post, dodge rating is way better then lifestealing, but yeah if you want to die in 2 hits go ahead and use lifestealing, go search for the best rogue twinks on a few servers and they'll all say 15 agility is better then lifestealing.... beside, I dont need to l2p, i got 2 lvl 70s in 8/8 t6, and I am the best rogue twink on my server, so hush baby, hush.
    2.4% dodge chance means 2-3 more dodges outta 100. That's a lot,isnt it?

    I really dont belive you got 2 lvl 70s in 8/8 t6, you even dont know what dodge rating means,and Im sure you ARENT the best,except your server is small like mine.

    "baby"... Im not a baby,you are not too,but youre a kid of 10-13 100%.

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    to be more specifical

    if an average rogue's attack goes out each 2.8/1.7 seconds on average (Cruel Barb+WSG dagger,average twink rogue)...


    60 / 2.8 = 21 attacks with MH
    60 / 1.7 = 35 attacks with OH

    Plus a Sinister Strike each 5 seconds.

    60 / 5 = 12 attacks.

    21 + 35 + 12 = 68 Attacks totally.

    If you get +15 agi, you will dodge 1-2 of those attacks. Lets say one Sinister Strike and 1 MH attack. 1 Sinister Strike is around 70-90 damage (with armor reduction) and 1 MH attack is 60-80 Damage. In average 150 Damage.

    You also get 1.3 DPS. You got 2 weapons, so that adds to you 2.6 total DPS.

    60 * 2.6 = 156 Damage , lets add some Sinister Strike bonus damage. If you get 12 Sinister Strikes per minute (average), and your MH's speed is 2.7 (Shadowfang),that will be

    1.3 * 2.7 = 3.5 Bonus Damage lets sum that to 4.

    12 * 4 = 48 Damage. 204 Damage.


    So,+15 Agility gives you 204 Damage and 150 "Healing" against ONLY Melee classes.

    204 +150= 354 HP bonus you will get from 15 Agility , 204 if you're not fighting a Paladin/Rogue/Warrior/Noob Hunter

    Lifestealing gives you 180 Damage and 180 Healing against EVERYTHING.

    180 + 180= 360 HP bonus you will get from Lifestealing.

    Plus Lifestealing oftenly procs more than 6 times per minute.

    I clearly explained you why Im right. Now either you face that Im right, GTFO off this thread or I will just ignore your posts.

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    Lifestealing only heals you for 30 points, im not sure where you get the crazy idea from that it does 180 dmg/heals for 180 b'coz it does not, I have just tested this with my rogue bought lifestealing for my dagger and tested it our certain amount of times, Lifestealing only procced twice in a fight VS A warrior with 2k hp - So yet b4 15 agility is better, this has been confirmed by official WoW forums and every single twink in my guild, do you have a twink at all? or you're just a wannabe twink who cant affort shit? b'coz thats what I think you are.... You can take this to official wow forums if you wish, saying lifestealing is better, everyone will laugh at you.

    Edit; not to mention that lifestealing wont proc if you dodge every single hit, I have over 61% dodge chance - wich means I'll dodge 4/5 of your hits, you think lifestealing will save you vs that? I dont think so, but yeah think whatever you like, my whole guild just laughed and made fun of you.

    /gg.

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    Druid(healer):

    Weapon: Staff of the Blessed Seer +55 healing

    Head: Green Tinted Goggles +8 Spelldamage and Healing
    Neck: Thick Bronze necklace / WSG Reward
    Shoulders: Talbar Mantle
    Back: WSG reward
    Chest: Robe of the Moccassin +100 Mana/Health
    Wrist: Bracers of stamina / eagle / int +24 healing
    Hands: Magefist Gloves / Serpants gloves +30 healing
    Waist: Keller's Girdle
    Legs: Darkweave Breeches +66Spell Damage +20 Stamina
    Feet: Nat Pagle's Extreme Anglin' Boots / Sanguine Sandals +Minor Speed and 9 Stamina
    Ring 1: Seal of Wrynn (Alliance) / Seal of Sylvannas (Horde)
    Ring 2: WSG Ring
    Trinket 1: PVP Trinket
    Trinket 2: Arena Grand Master

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