Guilds got scammed. How to evade it?

[ViND_]

An old scam that I thought isn't so common anymore has been becoming popular lately.

I don't play retail anymore, but I heard the whole story from my friend who I used to level with. His guild was scammed hard.

The idea is to make a character whose name is like bank while you know that the real Guild Master is offline and for how much time so that you can act.
The scammer then marks an officer of the guild and whispers him, and eventually gets into the guild with this false bank character. Then the officer promotes him after an explanation from the scammer as to why he needs a promotion.

And then he goes in your guild bank and takes everything he can.


That's how my friend got scammed, I thought you should know. Tbh I've used this scam but I thought it wasn't so popular anymore. I guess it's gaining population again.

[faithzz]

Well , you should ask a verification question from the alt to prove that he is the real GM of your guild. But its pretty effective.

[nopower]

My guild always has the person log into their main and send a tell to an officer with their alts name then they whisper the same officer from that alt and they get an invite.

[Confidence]

It's always good to have some type of verification process set up with the officers (or those with the power to promote) when establishing a guild.

[Synthelo]

It's always good to have some type of verification process set up with the officers (or those with the power to promote) when establishing a guild.

I agree, they should have a secret phrase or likely to protect their guild.

But nice scam, i'd use it

[Unholyshaman]

This scam get's you banned though.
Blizzard has changed how they deal with guild bank withdrawals and scams. Their approach used to be if they have access to it, they can have what they want.
However their approach is now that if you are reported by a guild master for mass withdrawals for a malicious intent, and it is proven that you took out more than what was originally yours then you are a ninja.

It happened to my guild a while ago where a small guild asked to merge into ours. I made their guild leader the co-guild leader and then a few weeks later he decided to ninja our guild bank before transfering servers. His guild only had a small amount that they depositted into our guild bank,a nd he withdrew their stuff and most of ours.

The GMs promptly mailed me back ALL the loot taken out (our guilds items and the ninja's guild items) but only gave the ninja a 48 hour ban :/ (he told me).


But yeah, in my guild only I have access, my alts and my main officer chars. No officer alts and ranks below officer have access (and even then officer access is limited).

Meaning this cannot happen because an officer cannot promote anyone to a rank that is able to withdraw items.

[Sayu]

"yea, sure i'll invite you! what, you want GM rights for your bank alt? here you go."? is there really anyone falling for something like that? seriously, usually our whole guild is sitting in teamspeak while playing so this wouldnt work. and even without it it's not too much to ask to just log on your main real quick and ask for an invite from there.

[Confidence]

This scam get's you banned though.
Blizzard has changed how they deal with guild bank withdrawals and scams. Their approach used to be if they have access to it, they can have what they want.
However their approach is now that if you are reported by a guild master for mass withdrawals for a malicious intent, and it is proven that you took out more than what was originally yours then you are a ninja.

It happened to my guild a while ago where a small guild asked to merge into ours. I made their guild leader the co-guild leader and then a few weeks later he decided to ninja our guild bank before transfering servers. His guild only had a small amount that they depositted into our guild bank,a nd he withdrew their stuff and most of ours.

The GMs promptly mailed me back ALL the loot taken out (our guilds items and the ninja's guild items) but only gave the ninja a 48 hour ban :/ (he told me).


But yeah, in my guild only I have access, my alts and my main officer chars. No officer alts and ranks below officer have access (and even then officer access is limited).

Meaning this cannot happen because an officer cannot promote anyone to a rank that is able to withdraw items.

Nice, and sometimes a 48 hour ban is enough depending on your level of "addiction" (or lack thereof, haha). Normally GMs aren't allowed to disclose information like that, though...

[aamlord]

I'm very familiar with this scam. I am second in command of a guild that has 5 tabs full of odd and ends worth around 10k gold in AH price plus another 5k g. The guild leader however has NOT been online for 7 or 8 months at that time.

Did I mention I know the guild leader personally? She has been playing Dragons lately and left WoW and the guild in my hand.

Someone claiming to be the guild leader. So I replied "Really? Cus the guild leader is talking with me right now and she is not online. You have been reported for scam." then I ignored him. I also put him on friend's list but the next time I logged on it was removed because the character no longer existed.

[wowgmgm]

nice scam...

[cirko]

I came up with this scam 3 years ago.. I can still remember the time, where we could kill onyxia alone, when we only could reach lvl 60..
That was the time of GLORY..

Just wanna tell you guys, i havent been active for like 2 years or something, but now i'm back, and i'm will come up with some creazy serious scams like always.. So watch out and stay tuned

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-sc...html#post11898

This one should still work

[Aldun]

I came up with this scam 3 years ago.. I can still remember the time, where we could kill onyxia alone, when we only could reach lvl 60..
That was the time of GLORY..

Just wanna tell you guys, i havent been active for like 2 years or something, but now i'm back, and i'm will come up with some creazy serious scams like always.. So watch out and stay tuned

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-sc...html#post11898

This one should still work

MMOwned doesn't allow scamming methods anymore. Only very innocent whitehat scams.

[Starcraft1535]

There are a few ways to prevent this
1. Dont allow alts as officers
2. If you do allow alts then create a password only officers know and if that person dose not mention it then u know for sure hes not an officers (also change the password as u lose officers :P )

[Black0ut120]

I remember the day this scam was posted, I had to be one of the first 10 people to try it, because I had about a 5/10 success rate. Back then you had to go to the wow forums, find the top guilds, and just go down the list for every server. I made probably 2k irl from underselling the gold to the few legit MSN buyers (back then). I'm sure Blizz has changed their methods by now though and made it difficult to ninja a guild like that. Those were the golden days of scamming tho imo, def the biggest "licks", for lack of a better word, of all the scams to this day.

You'd be surprised how many officers would run me right up through the ranks without even a reply, guess they were busy or slow. But simple officer/GL communication can prevent this.

[whero]

Ya, verify by just being like "well what did I do on New Years at Stormwind?"