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    JohnPreston's Avatar Contributor
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    Make lots of $$$ without the risk of losing it!

    Make lots of $$$ without the risk of losing it!
    Welcome to another one of my epic shares.

    This one is the most epic'ish of all because you can make money without doing anything but a little setup.
    Well, little, it can take some time, but after that you are done.

    This is not a complete in-depth guide, but more a general idea of how it works.
    This is because this method can be used for more then one purpose.

    Allright, let's get started!

    What do you need:
    1. A site host
    2. Joomla + VirtueMart OR any other online shopping site thingy.
    3. Some basic website skills
    4. PayPal (does not matter if it's fake or real!)
    5. Some time

    First you will need to setup Joomla + VirtueMart or an alternative.
    (You just need to be able to put things up for sale, in our case WoW Pre-Paid codes and Account codes.)

    After the site is done, add the items.
    Here is total freedom!
    You can add WoW codes but also AoC, EVE, CoH/CoV, HL2, CS(S) EVERYTHING you want.
    The more you add, the more you will look like an official shop.

    Go to your paypal merchants tools and make some cool "BUY" buttons for your items on your site and add them. (make sure paypal is the only way to pay)

    Ok, what have you got so far:
    A cool shopping site with all kinds of products.

    The idea behind selling is that you need something to sell.
    In our case we do not have this, and if people buy codes we do not have anything!!! O NOES!!!

    That's where the "scamming" comes in.

    As soon as someone buy's an item, let's say a WoW pre-paid code, mail them an INVALID code but make sure you use the correct template.
    They will probably be spamming your mailbox for a valid key and how they have been screwed over by you, but that's ok, ignore them, mark them as spam, set up a filter to delete those receipts, whatever.

    Now they will probably start a dispute on paypal, well, they will if they are smart. This is the fun part.
    Now you will think, SHIT, I'm ffuuuuucked!!!

    NO!!!

    It's a digital product so paypal offers limit support.
    I even had a few cases where PayPal did not respond at all and just closed the dispute without even a single investigation, this all in favor of the seller.

    If PayPal does take on your case they will ask you for proof.
    Just tell them you mailed the buyer the code.
    Make a few screenshots of your sendbox, whatever.

    Conclusion: PayPal has the proof you have send the code, PayPal will close the dispute, you keep your money, buyer cries on mommy's lap.


    Maybe it sounds a little difficult but it's not.
    Try it out!

    I will provide you with the WoW 60 day timecard template:
    5961-287547-22690-651841-2218

    If there are any questions, feel free to post them and I will try to answer them.

    EDIT:
    Forgot to add some things:

    * To make the site look more professional, add LiveChat support, just leave it offline.
    * Add some "customer reviews" where you are the customer
    * Add a visitor counter where you can set the starting value or can add more visits by refreshing, for example
    Free Web Page Hit Counter #1
    * Using a .com domain will look more real but it does not have to have one
    * Make special discounts, like, Buy 3 get one free! (it rhymes, whoo)
    * Set pricing lower then in other shops.

    Last edited by JohnPreston; 08-15-2008 at 09:36 AM.

    Make lots of $$$ without the risk of losing it!
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    CrimsonXander's Avatar Member
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    i got scammed by a website like this - couldn't get money back.

    +rep when i can

    Anime... my 'escape from reality' drug!

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    JohnPreston's Avatar Contributor
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    Originally Posted by CrimsonXander View Post
    i got scammed by a website like this - couldn't get money back.

    +rep when i can
    That's the beauty of this scam.
    They CANNOT get their money back

    That's why it does not matter if you use a fake paypal or not.

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    Nice! Just +Repped, the beauty of this scam as you said, is that they can't get money back!

    Thanks for the share!

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    EDIT: I didn't read this properly at all.
    Last edited by overload119; 08-15-2008 at 04:16 PM.

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    This doesn't work.

    Not only do you have to go through the pains of getting an idiot to accept a KeyLogger, but even if you get that far, PayPal will now investigate issues like this a lot deeper. If they find out that the code you gave them is a fake one (which they will check) they'll you'll get in deep shit.

    A better idea is to mail them one of your used but valid game-card keys.

    What the heck are you talking about?
    I guess you are in the wrong topic lol.

    There is no keylogger needed whatsoever, and NO paypal still does not investigate it deep enough.
    And they do NOT check codes, even if they did , the code will show up as "used"

    You failed sir.

    @Saaen

    Lol, you where almost the first one again
    Last edited by JohnPreston; 08-15-2008 at 10:22 AM.

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    Damn, I'll have to try harder getting here first, and overload119, i didn't think people could be that stupid, the word keylogger doesn't even come up in this post, wtf is wrong with you?

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    nice scam, but im too lazy to set-up a site. +rep


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    Worth pointing out that PayPal often will reimburse for services not received (i.e. powerlevelling, etc).

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    JohnPreston's Avatar Contributor
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    Originally Posted by Razakel View Post
    Worth pointing out that PayPal often will reimburse for services not received (i.e. powerlevelling, etc).
    What I explained you could sell are no services.
    A gold sell site or powerlevel site is something totally different.

    But indeed, it is nice of you for pointing it out.

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    Razakel's Avatar Member
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    Originally Posted by JohnPreston View Post
    What I explained you could sell are no services.
    A gold sell site or powerlevel site is something totally different.

    But indeed, it is nice of you for pointing it out.
    Aye, but often CD key/gamecard sites will offer gold, accounts or powerlevelling, or at least be affiliated with somewhere that does.

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    Great scam! Will try it out..

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    JohnPreston's Avatar Contributor
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    Originally Posted by Razakel View Post
    Aye, but often CD key/gamecard sites will offer gold, accounts or powerlevelling, or at least be affiliated with somewhere that does.
    I see, weird combo if you ask me
    Mixing something legal with illegal.

    I would either keep my business legit or illegal, not both.

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    can u show us your site? for an example, dont nknow whats the best build of a page like that

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    nice

    nice guide

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