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    Originally Posted by Kezah View Post
    Hunters aren't easy to play. Yes you can easily just auto-shot and go afk but that won't make any good damage. A good hunter knows shot rotations and how to weave in steadys manually and use arcane/multi at the right times, knows how to FEIGN (trust me alot of hunters don't). And know how to adapt your rotation to your attackspeed and haste buffs is also something a good hunter must do.

    Those that says casters are easy to play aren't any good casters either. A good caster uses a cast bar mod like quartz to time spells according to your latency to get good dps. If you use a castbar mod and are able to time shots with very good precision your dps can increase quite a bit.

    Paladins, and all healers at that can't just spam one button. They need to use different spells according to the situation to manage their mana better. Just spamming flash of light isn't enough to keep a tank up all the time, but spam holy light and you'l go out of mana. Healers also need to be aware of AoE damage and heal the raid while also making sure tank doesn't die. Raid encounters aren't just tank and spank where you just can heal the tank. Nearly all bosses have AoE damage to the raid also. Healers also need to work together and predict other healers to make sure they don't throw a heal on a target that was healed 0.2 second before your heal landed so you don't get unnecessary overhealing.

    I've raided with hunter, mage, paladin and warrior, and I don't think that any class is "easiest" to play. It's just a matter of opinion and what playstyle suits you best that make a class "easy".
    I have raided with hunter, rogue, mage, warlock, priest, druid and I can safely say that it is not true that a good hunter must know shot rotation or that a good mage has a cast bar mod. Hunters can spec BM and use ONE macro all the time to deal very good dps. Marksman and survival hunters however need to have a shot rotation but it's still on par or even low than BM hunter 1-click dps.
    For a mage, spamming frostbolt/fireball+scorch is all they have to do really. That "using latency bar" is big crap. I have Quartz myself and when you are in the latency bit of the castbar it's not like you can cast a new spell already, if you move then it will still complete the cast but if you do that all the time you're kinda stupid.

    And for the paladin bit:
    Step 1: Download Grid.
    Step 2: Download Clique.
    Step 3: Left-click a character pane for flash of light, right-click a character pane for holy light. How hard is that?

    BM Hunter/Mage/Paladin/Lock/Ele shammy is definitely the easiest class to play. They are all not melee classes so they don't have to watch out for cleaves, tailswipes or whatever and most AoE hits the melee classes. They can also perform very well with playing only with mouse keybinds and movement and/or 1-click dps.
    This doesn't come from just crappy kara which you can complete with a bunch of dickheads but from MH/BT/SWP.

    Also to note the healing meter. Some classes will ALWAYS be on top of the healing meter because of their nature. Chain heal for example will jump to targets that are not at 100% health, jumping to the lowest player on health first. Spells like CoH however heal that player that is damaged and his/her party members. Those party members still get healed even though they can be at 100%, causing overhealing done but no healing done.
    Last edited by Forever; 05-26-2008 at 04:44 AM.

    What is the easiest class to raid with on World of Warcraft?
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    warrior, from my own experience. I've played Mage + Rogue as well.

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    Originally Posted by Forever View Post

    I have raided with hunter, rogue, mage, warlock, priest, druid and I can safely say that it is not true that a good hunter must know shot rotation or that a good mage has a cast bar mod. Hunters can spec BM and use ONE macro all the time to deal very good dps. Marksman and survival hunters however need to have a shot rotation but it's still on par or even low than BM hunter 1-click dps.
    For a mage, spamming frostbolt/fireball+scorch is all they have to do really. That "using latency bar" is big crap. I have Quartz myself and when you are in the latency bit of the castbar it's not like you can cast a new spell already, if you move then it will still complete the cast but if you do that all the time you're kinda stupid.

    And for the paladin bit:
    Step 1: Download Grid.
    Step 2: Download Clique.
    Step 3: Left-click a character pane for flash of light, right-click a character pane for holy light. How hard is that?

    BM Hunter/Mage/Paladin/Lock/Ele shammy is definitely the easiest class to play. They are all not melee classes so they don't have to watch out for cleaves, tailswipes or whatever and most AoE hits the melee classes. They can also perform very well with playing only with mouse keybinds and movement and/or 1-click dps.
    This doesn't come from just crappy kara which you can complete with a bunch of dickheads but from MH/BT/SWP.

    Also to note the healing meter. Some classes will ALWAYS be on top of the healing meter because of their nature. Chain heal for example will jump to targets that are not at 100% health, jumping to the lowest player on health first. Spells like CoH however heal that player that is damaged and his/her party members. Those party members still get healed even though they can be at 100%, causing overhealing done but no healing done.
    Shows how much you know, Clique and clicking is for retards. Keybinding mouseover macros are smoother, faster and more effective.

    Again, Like I noted before, FOL spamming is stupid, and you obviously have never played a Paladin well.

    Anyway, anyone who doesn't suggest downranking on certain situation again, doesn't know how to play a Paladin.

    Like noted before Holy Paladin is the most reaction-oriented spec/class in the game, we have simple, and casted heals, and we need the most foresight then all other class, and all other healers.

    EDIT:

    Leaving Auto-Shot on in a raid as a Hunter makes Hunters REALLY easy, doesn't mean you will get the best DPS, spamming random abilities and not using rotations won't get you good DPS, yet you say "lol pallys can just spam FOL or HL", HOW retarded are you? You apply different rules to the classes you like and yet judge Paladins as easy. Can't Hunters "just Auto-Shot spam" just like some bad Pallys "FOL spam"?

    Oh well, of course Hunters are harder to play because you SAY they are, and because you THINK Pallys only have two buttons. Gratz on being an idiot.
    Last edited by Roofhack; 05-26-2008 at 05:14 AM.

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    Huntard Ofc Deal DPS tru entire raid with just 1 click

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    So you click once and suddenly you're dps'ing for the whole raid without doing anything...? Wow I gotta start playing my hunter again now.

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    I've only raided with my holy priest and my rogue.

    priest is definitely not the easiest (at least when you're a main healer). you have to pay attention constantly or you could wipe the raid easily, then get people mad at you for failing.

    my rogue was easy as i just kind of sat back and waited for them to call dps, then kill stuff like crazy.

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    rogue is the easiest you just stand their and hit the monster .. how hard is that

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    Originally Posted by liama View Post
    rogue is the easiest you just stand their and hit the monster .. how hard is that
    i wouldn't put it like that. there's stuff you have to watch. healers mostly will be watching tanks, you want to watch your health and step back and bandage if you can, have to watch your threat, etc. i still think it may be the easiest for raiding though.

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    Originally Posted by liama View Post
    rogue is the easiest you just stand their and hit the monster .. how hard is that
    You obviously have no clue about rogues or melee classes at all. It isn't just "stand their and hit the monster". Sure if you want to do less damage than your tanks, then just put autoattack and go afk. You need proper skill rotation to do any decent damage, and in PvE there's a lot of things you got to move for and do, there's not alot of bosses where you can just stand still and dps for the whole fight.

    I have raided with hunter, rogue, mage, warlock, priest, druid and I can safely say that it is not true that a good hunter must know shot rotation or that a good mage has a cast bar mod. Hunters can spec BM and use ONE macro all the time to deal very good dps. Marksman and survival hunters however need to have a shot rotation but it's still on par or even low than BM hunter 1-click dps.
    For a mage, spamming frostbolt/fireball+scorch is all they have to do really. That "using latency bar" is big crap. I have Quartz myself and when you are in the latency bit of the castbar it's not like you can cast a new spell already, if you move then it will still complete the cast but if you do that all the time you're kinda stupid.

    And for the paladin bit:
    Step 1: Download Grid.
    Step 2: Download Clique.
    Step 3: Left-click a character pane for flash of light, right-click a character pane for holy light. How hard is that?

    BM Hunter/Mage/Paladin/Lock/Ele shammy is definitely the easiest class to play. They are all not melee classes so they don't have to watch out for cleaves, tailswipes or whatever and most AoE hits the melee classes. They can also perform very well with playing only with mouse keybinds and movement and/or 1-click dps.
    This doesn't come from just crappy kara which you can complete with a bunch of dickheads but from MH/BT/SWP.

    Also to note the healing meter. Some classes will ALWAYS be on top of the healing meter because of their nature. Chain heal for example will jump to targets that are not at 100% health, jumping to the lowest player on health first. Spells like CoH however heal that player that is damaged and his/her party members. Those party members still get healed even though they can be at 100%, causing overhealing done but no healing done.
    I think you don't understand Quartz. When the castbar reaches the "red area" on it your spell is finished. The remaining part of the bar is your latency and it's just lag. If you start casting again once the cast is through the whole bar that time that was red on the bar will not have been used for anything at all. If you press the button to cast again when the bar reaches the red area you WILL start casting a new spell before the other one is "finished". This is ofcourse useless if you're playing with little to no latency. But if you have some and can time it right it will increase your dps.

    Just like Roofhack says it's not just about spamming FoL and HL on everything as a Paladin. You need to react to damage fast and on other players incoming heals and be fast to cancel if another landed before your heal is done to avoid overhealing and unnecessary mana costs.

    What you say about range not getting AoE and can just stand still is more true for Kara I'd say.
    From what I've done ranged actually have more to think of and watch out for. I've only done 6/6 SSC / 3/4 TK / ZA and 3 bosses in MH and first two in BT but the only encounters I can think of that melee gets AoE that ranged don't would be on Karathress with the freeze on melee, lurker with whirl and VR with pounding, and all of those are pretty unavoidable and aren't much trouble. Whereas ranged have adds on Lurker, need to watch phase changes on Hydross, watch aggro reset after whirlwind on leo, orbs on VR, mark of kaz'rogal, all of which can kill you if you don't watch out. Over all I don't think ranged have it easier compared to melee.

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    Warlocks Or Mages Are Easiest... Apart from when ppll QQ "Water plz"
    "Water me plz" "Food plz" "Water and food plz" its quite annoying.

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    I don't think there 1 easy class to raid with, they are all build up with differences.

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    Originally Posted by Stanger1234 View Post
    I don't think there 1 easy class to raid with, they are all build up with differences.
    This is the truth.

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    Of the ones I have played, mage is definitely the easiest one.

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    mage, only spam fireball... and maybe conjures water.

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    Rogues...

    here's how to win a fight as rogue:
    stealth
    cheap shot
    sinister strike x5
    Kidney shot
    Vanish
    Cheap shot
    Death without loose hp

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