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    TehVoyager's Avatar I just love KuRIoS
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    Because the ring explosion deals damage based on everyones dps from the users location, and everyone gets dps credit for their portion, this is useless for now.


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    1x Ring Explosion.. no 20x Ring explosions.
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    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    Because the ring explosion deals damage based on everyones dps from the users location, and everyone gets dps credit for their portion, this is useless for now.
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    You know when you normally pop ring in a raid and it pops everyones ring right?
    ye.... times that with how many dps you've got... that's basically how much the "extra" damage is.

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    In normal case of a 5 man instance Lets say all 3 dps detonates 100 damage per person on the ring user when the effect ends, so 3x100 = 300, right?
    In your case, we pull the boss, kick 3 dps, they use their 3 rings, we invite them back instantly (if that's even possible) and we will see 3 detonates one for each person.

    The problem is, the ring registers the actual amount of rings in the party/raid in the very moment when the ring is used and because we split before use, each detonation will count only their own user because they were alone at the moment when the rings were fired. Even if they group back up later the rings won't register them furthermore. It will be the same 3x100 damage but this time spreading into 3 different 100 damage detonations.
    Last edited by Zemsta; 04-01-2016 at 04:49 PM.

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    TehVoyager's Avatar I just love KuRIoS
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    Originally Posted by Mollyy View Post
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    You know when you normally pop ring in a raid and it pops everyones ring right?
    ye.... times that with how many dps you've got... that's basically how much the "extra" damage is.
    Mollyy, im sorry, but you need to research more on how the legendary ring works dear.

    "When the buff expires, everyone who was buffed will deal an additional amount of Holy damage split across all enemies within 20 yards of the activating player's postion. The damage dealt by each player will be equal to a minimum of 25% (up to 43.7%) of all damage that player dealt while the buff was active."

    So by dropping and regrouping, each ring fires independently, BUT, it doesn't deal any extra damage. its difficult for me to type out a long detailed explination because im at work, but, and i mean this completely politely, you are wrong.

    Blizz has confirmed this btw:

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    there is no benefit to dropping group, independently using ring, and reforming. the ring accounts for everyone in group AT THE TIME OF ACTIVATION. not later. if you believe this isnt the case, provide evidence. otherwise its a theory (this sub form is [no theories]) or it provides no benefit at this time, meaning for now, its useless.


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    How about before people start saying someone's wrong or a topic is useless people try and actually replicate it? All these try-hards saying it's wrong without providing proof one way or the other (OP that goes for you as well without proof obviously no one's going to believe you) makes me laugh. People on this thread make it sound like things never get broken in WoW or unintentional things happen at all... Yes Devs have explained how the ring is SUPPOSED to work however everyone on this site should know by now shit breaks after even the tiniest change and Blizzard tends to overlook it until it's pointed out. Before throwing out the "this is how the ring works gtfo" or "it'll only explode for the damage they did themselves" read my other reply and it explains how the OP could be telling the truth. Logic so hard .

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    Originally Posted by Cedrus View Post
    How about before people start saying someone's wrong.....
    please. feel free to go out, and spend half an hour trying to replicate this. go ahead.


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    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    please. feel free to go out, and spend half an hour trying to replicate this. go ahead.
    Your loss.

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    Originally Posted by Mollyy View Post
    Your loss.
    again, politely mollyy, no, there is no loss. because it doesn't work the way you think it does. though, feel free to provide evidence of the exploit (as IIRC you're supposed to) proving the validity of the exploit.

    as this is becoming a jumble of nonsense "doesnt work " "UH HUHH IT DOES" "NUH UHH IT DOESNT" "UH HUHH IT DOES" until/unless someone provides proof / evidence this is working, i wont be replying farther. if you do believe this is a working, provide proof. otherwise, i've made my thoughts plain.


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    Originally Posted by TehVoyager View Post
    please. feel free to go out, and spend half an hour trying to replicate this. go ahead.
    If you bothered to even read my reply you would've seen how I noted if someone can prove it it's fairly gamebreaking. At least I'm not instantly shutting it down when in theory it could actually work. Why should I bother to replicate it if you obviously aren't going to try either? But please shoot a few more year old Dev responses telling us how the ring is supposed to work instead of providing proof said exploit is wrong. As for your "UH HUHH NUH HUH" crap no one except for Mollyy has even stated it works and all the haters saying it doesn't haven't even tried to do it. I didn't say it did and I didn't say it didn't. I'm only stating the facts on how it COULD work. Reading is as hard as logic with you and it seems you only want to shut down a possible exploit because you don't want to bother attempting it. As I said before shit breaks with just the littlest bit of tweaking on Blizzard's end and could easily have resulted into a glitch in the ring. Obviously it hasn't been proven yet, but it still hasn't been proven false either.
    Last edited by Cedrus; 04-02-2016 at 12:24 PM.

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    Originally Posted by Cedrus View Post
    Obviously it hasn't been proven yet, but it still hasn't been proven false either.
    Afaik, this is how the exploit forum does NOT work, you have to prove first then share. Or did they lift the "NO THEORIES" tag for now? I'm sure people could flood this forum with many theories then.

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    Originally Posted by Zemsta View Post
    Afaik, this is how the exploit forum does NOT work, you have to prove first then share. Or did they lift the "NO THEORIES" tag for now? I'm sure people could flood this forum with many theories then.
    You're right it doesn't work like that, and I already said the OP needs to provide proof as well in my second reply (again reading is so hard ). However not a single person saying it doesn't work like that or it's useless has tried to proof it wrong and only want to shut it down because they're too lazy to attempt it. Yes the OP does need to provide proof, but everyone saying it doesn't are saying it without proof as well so imo they're just as bad as the OP.

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    Originally Posted by Cedrus View Post
    However not a single person saying it doesn't work like that or it's useless has tried to proof it wrong and only want to shut it down because they're too lazy to attempt it
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    Go ahead and read that.

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    Originally Posted by phantom325 View Post
    I did and it's obvious you didn't see what I said about linking YEAR OLD Dev posts, but do go on. Jesus the stupidity is real in here. I'll stop responding and go back to just leeching exploits as they get found. It's clearly a lost cause trying to get it through thick skulled people. Peace.

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    Did you actually get 3 times the ring damage, or did it split on multiple adds so you think multiple hits = more damage?

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    In theory, since the ring registers the amount of players counted for the ring detonate damage is taking at the very moment when the ring is fired, it does not increase damage (because people split up before using the ring). Taken a 3 dps example, one single massive detonation (3x1 person's damage) is exactly the same as 3 small detonation per person (1x3 damage).

    Anyway, nobody came up with any proof for this theory neither the contrary sofar.
    Last edited by Zemsta; 04-08-2016 at 01:30 PM.

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