Using the same raid lockout Every Week to farm rare mounts! No Second Account Needed!

[The Insane]

Heya. Using this method since 2 months. Anyone has been banned for 6 months for using it?
My account has been banned and I can't figure why. Maybe it's not for this but it's better to check.

[Sklug]

Heya. Using this method since 2 months. Anyone has been banned for 6 months for using it?
My account has been banned and I can't figure why. Maybe it's not for this but it's better to check.

You won't get banned for doing this. Everyone getting a 6 month ban apparently has been linked to using Honorbuddy sometime in the last 3-4 months. Not everyone that uses HB is getting banned though, so clearly there is a specific feature that a player might use in HB that blizz is detecting, but the mass banwave doesn't appear to be hitting the smaller bots.

[crunk001]

While this is somewhat a guide, I am placing it here since it clearly bypasses some intended game mechanics in regards to raid ID lockouts and so on. Mods can move to Guides if they feel it is more appropriate

Credit Really should be given to the guy who discovered this, which is not me. I am just bringing it to your attention here since he discovered this 4 days ago and shared it with Reddit.

Exact Steps Are As Follows (Video should help make it clear as well)
It really gets much faster once you realize how to do it!

• Step 1 ) Farm to boss you want to farm on one character (You should ONLY farm on NORMAL difficulty, as you will switch to heroic later).
• Step 2 ) Log out of that saved character you just farmed with.
• Step 3 ) Log onto character you want to share lockout with.
• Step 4 ) Create "Custom" premade with LFG tool, name it whatever you want.
• Step 5 ) Choose "Auto Accept" in the LFG tool.
• Step 6 ) Log out and back onto the "SAVED" character.
• Step 7 ) Look for the Custom premade you created (should show as blue) and sign up.
• Step 8 ) ACCEPT INVITE
• Step 9 ) Log out of saved character and back onto farm character (the same toon that created the LFG group).
• Step 10) Not 100% necessary, but Uncheck the "Auto Accept" option in LFG tool just in case some random dude tries to join you.
• (you should see your saved character offline in your group).
• Step 11 ) Before zoning in, make sure your raid size is set correctly for what you want to farm (10 or 25) and difficulty is Normal.
• Step 12 ) Zone in and accept the lockout!!! (Only AFTER you zone in and accept lockout, then adjust difficulty to heroic, like on LK).
• Step 13) Kill Boss!
• Step 14 ) Repeat Steps 3 to 13 for other characters.

NOTE: You DO NOT need to disband the party as your offline toon will not get saved. Also disbanding will give you the 60 sec countdown.

IMPORTANT NOTE: When doing a raid like ICC, do not clear up to the Lich King in heroic. Clear ICC 10 or 25 in NORMAL mode up to the LK, so your "saved" character is saved to ICC normal at the Lich King. Set it to ICC 25 normal, enter the instance, and then after you are inside the ICC instance and accepted the NORMAL mode 25 lockout, then you set it to heroic.

Do I understand that you do Not get infinite tries per week on that one character, but rather can use that lockout than on any other character / account you wish to (without clearing it all again) - correct?

Or does it reset?

[Sklug]

Do I understand that you do Not get infinite tries per week on that one character, but rather can use that lockout than on any other character / account you wish to (without clearing it all again) - correct?

Or does it reset?

You can use the same lockout on an infinite number of alts, but ya, it is still just once a week per toon. The catch is that one toon of yours will carry the IDs and that toon will NOT clear each week. So it's once a week for all of your toons except for the toon with the original lockout.

It's not all that different than using 2 accounts or a friend technique to share lockout IDs, but this method allows you to SOLO, with one single account, share your lockout with all of your alts an indefinitely... As a guy with 11 lvl 100,s this means I kill the LK 10 times per week, and I've been doing it for months now (damn my luck lol), and I have never had to do anything on any of my toons aside from login and kill the LK for months. I only cleared up to the LK one time on my one alt that holds the lockout ID. And, even better, I don't have to go around bugging someone to help me. The whole process takes like a min or less per toon to share so it's ridiculously easy.

[fiskit69]

So quick question. We are obviously keeping one character to hold the lockout so they should never kill the LK, rather just keep extending the lock out, right? And then that character just repeats the main steps again?

Edit: I see you answered above.

Okay one last question. What raids will this work on? Anything from Wrath and above? I would like to farm ragnaros and LK, maybe Ulduar for Mims head.

[Sklug]

So quick question. We are obviously keeping one character to hold the lockout so they should never kill the LK, rather just keep extending the lock out, right? And then that character just repeats the main steps again?

Edit: I see you answered above.

Okay one last question. What raids will this work on? Anything from Wrath and above? I would like to farm ragnaros and LK, maybe Ulduar for Mims head.

It depends, but it pretty much only works with these because of the way raiding was implemented, being able to swap between normal and heroic. So yes, Ulduar works. I know because I have Mimiron's head from doing this! yay! lol Umm, others would work with the same technique as well. I know some people use this on some older TBC raids to farm high value pets that were introduced in 6.1.

Where it doesn't really work is in raids that require you to kill everything in heroic to be able to start the final boss on heroic as well. With LK, in ICC, I can just easily swap it to ICC 25 heroic, even though I am saved to a 10 man normal ICC clear (remember ALWAYS only clear in normal), but if I head into the Cata raid with Deathwing, you can ONLY kill deathwing if you previously killed all the bosses in heroic mode (though fortunately you can farm madness with this trick cause someone has a separate exploit you can find in these forums how to do madness heroic having only cleared normal). But, there are a lot of raids where you can only engage the final boss if all previous fights are done in heroic. This is why it won't work for something like Ragnaros in Cata's Firelands, because all previous fights must be done in heroic. And, the raid ID preserving trick doesn't work when you are clearing the raid in heroic, sadly. But ya, the big ones I'd think are Uld and ICC and the Madness fight if you use the OTHER exploit in conjunction with this trick.

[fiskit69]

Thank you!

Last question. If I want to do ICC then I should do it on 10 man normal till LK or do I want to do it on 25 man?

[fiskit69]

Thank you!

Last question. If I want to do ICC then I should do it on 10 man normal till LK or do I want to do it on 25 man?

Okay, this is really the last question.

Okay, so farmed up to LK on my hunter. I logged out, gave the lockout to my monk. If I go kill the guy on my hunter then the lockout is done, right? Or can I kill him on my hunter and continue to use the monk to give the lockout to others?

Basically what I'm trying to do is have the monk be the guy who has the lockout. I'm never going to level him to 100 unless I'm bored, so he seems like a good mule for the lockout. I just don't want to **** myself by accident if I go back and do it with the hunter (who was the guy who farmed up to LK). If I can't kill him with the hunter, can I wait until next week for the lockout to expire, and just extend it on the monk and then cycle the hunter in with the rest of my alts and kill the LK?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to make sure I get this right.

[Dahornhunter]

Okay, this is really the last question.

Okay, so farmed up to LK on my hunter. I logged out, gave the lockout to my monk. If I go kill the guy on my hunter then the lockout is done, right? Or can I kill him on my hunter and continue to use the monk to give the lockout to others?

Basically what I'm trying to do is have the monk be the guy who has the lockout. I'm never going to level him to 100 unless I'm bored, so he seems like a good mule for the lockout. I just don't want to **** myself by accident if I go back and do it with the hunter (who was the guy who farmed up to LK). If I can't kill him with the hunter, can I wait until next week for the lockout to expire, and just extend it on the monk and then cycle the hunter in with the rest of my alts and kill the LK?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to make sure I get this right.

I cleared to sindragosa (Did not kill her) on my level 100 mage. Then I moved the lockout to my level 90 warrior, who like your monk, I will likely never level, and killed sindragosa on the 90 warrior. This permanently gives me the save with only Lich King left on my warrior. When this is done, every week I can give the lockout on my level 90 warrior to any character I want, kill the Lich King, then repeat on another character. The level 90 warrior will never lose the save unless I kill the Lich King on my level 90 warrior.

[Sklug]

Okay, this is really the last question.

Okay, so farmed up to LK on my hunter. I logged out, gave the lockout to my monk. If I go kill the guy on my hunter then the lockout is done, right? Or can I kill him on my hunter and continue to use the monk to give the lockout to others?

Basically what I'm trying to do is have the monk be the guy who has the lockout. I'm never going to level him to 100 unless I'm bored, so he seems like a good mule for the lockout. I just don't want to **** myself by accident if I go back and do it with the hunter (who was the guy who farmed up to LK). If I can't kill him with the hunter, can I wait until next week for the lockout to expire, and just extend it on the monk and then cycle the hunter in with the rest of my alts and kill the LK?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to make sure I get this right.

The monk does not have the lockout, the hunter does. Why? Because you only zoned in, but you do not actually become saved until a kill happens, even if you "accept" the lockout once you enter. Thus, that monk will not be able to share it. If you had done it like fiskit69 did, by farming up to sindragosa, but not killing, THEN shared that lockout with an alt, then using the new alt of yours to kill Sindragosa, thus giving you access to the LK, then your alt would now be the main ID holder at LK.

That is why you farmed to LK on your hunter, you cannot get your monk now saved with an ID unless he kills a boss. You COULD find a healer to come 2 man Dreamwalker for you, so you can get your monk saved there, assuming you skipped that boss fight.

And yes, you CAN clear all the way up to LK on ICC 10 normal. It has to be normal, either 10 or 25. Then, before you zone in on the alt you are sharing the lockout with, change it to ICC 25 normal, zone in, accept lockout, and then you are free to change it to heroic. But do not change it to heroic before entering with the alt that is going to get the kill, but make sure the raid size IS set appropriately before entering.

[fiskit69]

I cleared to sindragosa (Did not kill her) on my level 100 mage. Then I moved the lockout to my level 90 warrior, who like your monk, I will likely never level, and killed sindragosa on the 90 warrior. This permanently gives me the save with only Lich King left on my warrior. When this is done, every week I can give the lockout on my level 90 warrior to any character I want, kill the Lich King, then repeat on another character. The level 90 warrior will never lose the save unless I kill the Lich King on my level 90 warrior.

That makes PERFECT sense. The guy zoning in HAS to kill a boss otherwise they don't have shit.

Okay, how can I make this work on firelands?

[bogdan23x]

great guide

[iEthos]

I tried doing this with Dragon Soul, I cleared 7/8 Heroic, I went on my warrior, grouped with my saved character and killed Heroic Deathwing without a problem, now when I try and do it on my next character, it shows that the lockout is 8/8. When I go back on my mage, the lockout is still 7/8. I tried doing the normal 7/8 then entering and switching to heroic, but it says all previous bosses must be killed on heroic. Anyone know if there's a way around this?

[Alissa]

I tried doing this with Dragon Soul, I cleared 7/8 Heroic, I went on my warrior, grouped with my saved character and killed Heroic Deathwing without a problem, now when I try and do it on my next character, it shows that the lockout is 8/8. When I go back on my mage, the lockout is still 7/8. I tried doing the normal 7/8 then entering and switching to heroic, but it says all previous bosses must be killed on heroic. Anyone know if there's a way around this?

With Cataclysm raids you can't mix HC and N like with ICC (for example). Meaning while you can clear 11/12N in ICC and switch to HC for Lich King, you can't do that with Cata raids - if you want to kill Deathwing on HC, you have to clear the whole instance on HC every week. And you have to clear it for every character you want to use (which is why it worked for the warrior but not for the other characters). So if you don't care too much about HC Deathwing - just clear 7/8N for the save and do DW on normal on any character you want.

[rdruid69]

I tried doing this with Dragon Soul, I cleared 7/8 Heroic, I went on my warrior, grouped with my saved character and killed Heroic Deathwing without a problem, now when I try and do it on my next character, it shows that the lockout is 8/8. When I go back on my mage, the lockout is still 7/8. I tried doing the normal 7/8 then entering and switching to heroic, but it says all previous bosses must be killed on heroic. Anyone know if there's a way around this?

Clear 7/8 on normal. Then with your farms characters enter on normal and use this trick to switch it to heroic: http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/worl...reg-modes.html (Heroic deathwing w/ all prior reg modes)

BTW if you don't read the whole post, the correct macro since 5.4.8 is:

/click StaticPopup1Button1
/click DropDownList2Button2

Happy farming. I'm over 150 Madness kills without the normal mount....