Insane Hunter burst (pve) Gamebreaking exploit

[Archrix]

Attempted this multiple times on Darkspear-US.

Pets did not seem to keep the (Hex of Jammal'an - Spell - World of Warcraft) Hex but they kept the transformation one (Hex of Jammal'an - Spell - World of Warcraft). The transformation one would stay on, and wear off during my first stampede, and not transform the pets. The actual debuff that causes the pets to do damage doesn't even seem to work in the dungeon itself on all pets. May be pet specific.

If clarification could be provided on when to dismiss pets, and what pets you used to gain the buff, it would be very appreciated!

[tankuk]

Attempted this multiple times on Darkspear-US.

Pets did not seem to keep the (Hex of Jammal'an - Spell - World of Warcraft) Hex but they kept the transformation one (Hex of Jammal'an - Spell - World of Warcraft). The transformation one would stay on, and wear off during my first stampede, and not transform the pets. The actual debuff that causes the pets to do damage doesn't even seem to work in the dungeon itself on all pets. May be pet specific.

If clarification could be provided on when to dismiss pets, and what pets you used to gain the buff, it would be very appreciated!

What spec you in? I noticed that In survival the dps was low and switched to BM and its loads better. I have no idea if yoi need to go do your pets again but worth a test.

[spydasoquick]

Attempted this multiple times on Darkspear-US.

Pets did not seem to keep the (Hex of Jammal'an - Spell - World of Warcraft) Hex but they kept the transformation one (Hex of Jammal'an - Spell - World of Warcraft). The transformation one would stay on, and wear off during my first stampede, and not transform the pets. The actual debuff that causes the pets to do damage doesn't even seem to work in the dungeon itself on all pets. May be pet specific.

If clarification could be provided on when to dismiss pets, and what pets you used to gain the buff, it would be very appreciated!

nope i think it was just fixed in US, the countdown debuff that transforms the pet i tested it yesterday it never transformed the pet if dismissed with it.

the actual transformation debuff is being removed before the dismiss spell goes off.

[chumii]

yep can confirm working on EU..

i got the buffs about 12 hours ago and my pets still have it, even after 9 hour logout would be nice to know if they only fix that you can apply the buff and what happens to pets that already have it

[Stokkz]

I'm not sure they fixed this exploit entirely, but rather just that particular debuff. My stampede still has the roots when I first call it out everytime, from the bosses earthgrab totem I think it was. Which tells me there might be other debuffs out there that work. I was just thinking of the last boss in Throne of Tides... that's a 2000% damage increase, but I dont know if it applies to pets.

I tried the 2nd boss of Blackrock Caverns, where the beam transforms the target into a big nasty guy... Unfortunately the pet cant be used to block the beam and in return get the debuff.

[Diwie]

yep can confirm working on EU..

i got the buffs about 12 hours ago and my pets still have it, even after 9 hour logout would be nice to know if they only fix that you can apply the buff and what happens to pets that already have it

Sorry to busy you but how can you have the puff for 12 hours. I have it only once until i end the fight. if i begin an other fight the buff vanish and i have to get it again from the boss?

Can you explain pls

[Monstrosityxo]

Sorry to busy you but how can you have the puff for 12 hours. I have it only once until i end the fight. if i begin an other fight the buff vanish and i have to get it again from the boss?

Can you explain pls

How are you doing the buff diwie are you doing it on all of your stampede pets including your main and then starting the fight by stampedeing ad keeping the pet out? If so the debuff will fall off undoubtedly, but if you do 4 pets and keep your main pet active without the debuff you can use that pet to do your rotation and then do stampede and they'll all have the debuff, the debuff will renew and not decay while stampede is on CD while your main pet can still do his function of dps.

[Monstrosityxo]

Also this was hotfixed this morning on all US servers...have fun EU

[Diwie]

How are you doing the buff diwie are you doing it on all of your stampede pets including your main and then starting the fight by stampedeing ad keeping the pet out? If so the debuff will fall off undoubtedly, but if you do 4 pets and keep your main pet active without the debuff you can use that pet to do your rotation and then do stampede and they'll all have the debuff, the debuff will renew and not decay while stampede is on CD while your main pet can still do his function of dps.

Hello, ty for your answer.

I get the buff on all my pet, then i summon one and go stamp with glyphe i am wrong so... very wrong.

I have to get 4 pet and use my normal pet for my rotation. So i will have 4 pet buff during stamp but only during stamp. Am i right?

My main pet will never be buff?

[chumii]

Hello, ty for your answer.

I get the buff on all my pet, then i summon one and go stamp with glyphe i am wrong so... very wrong.

I have to get 4 pet and use my normal pet for my rotation. So i will have 4 pet buff during stamp but only during stamp. Am i right?

My main pet will never be buff?

exactly. for example i have my crit buff pet out all the time, so i let the other 4 get the buff (maybe dumb cause i would love to have my heroism pet as my "normal" pet...)
if you use the stampede glyph, it wont work. you have to call the other 4 buffed pets. i think it works like this: stampede only summons a copy from your pets, but not the real pet, so the original will always have the buff and only the copys will lose it.

like i said earlier. i got my buffs at around 6am german time, i am in a tot run right now (wow is actually in the background and they are doing trash and wondering why i kick their asses with -20 ilvl )

[Diwie]

The main problem is that you need to have your main pet buff because you can make some Kill comand Over 3M.

Is there any solution to have your main pet buff at the opener ?

i forget big ty for your anwser

[chumii]

The main problem is that you need to have your main pet buff because you can make some Kill comand Over 3M.

Is there any solution to have your main pet buff at the opener ?

i forget big ty for your anwser

maybe dismiss it while the 10second debuff is still active? the one that says "will be transformed" or sth.. maybe, if you the pull out the pet at the pull it will transform after a few seconds, pop cds, stampede, gg

just pulled 1.4mio burst with ilvl 535 (only meta, no cloak) at lei shen some1 shout have found this when we progressed....

[advanta]

I'm not sure they fixed this exploit entirely, but rather just that particular debuff. My stampede still has the roots when I first call it out everytime, from the bosses earthgrab totem I think it was. Which tells me there might be other debuffs out there that work. I was just thinking of the last boss in Throne of Tides... that's a 2000% damage increase, but I dont know if it applies to pets.

I tried the 2nd boss of Blackrock Caverns, where the beam transforms the target into a big nasty guy... Unfortunately the pet cant be used to block the beam and in return get the debuff.

Its a debuff we are looking for, whereas the tot buff is just that. Buffs fall off pets at the same rate whether they are dismissed or not. Debuffs don't, but there's a good reason for that-debuffs are meant to be a bad thing. In this very specific case, what is normally a bad thing (debuff) becomes a good thing. Straight buffs or debuffs won't by themselves produce exploits-its going to be a debuff with an unintended beneficial side-effect.

I've been trying to find other stuff like this for a few days now and it seems Blizzard really have the shit together on this. I've been focusing on debuffs which have beneficial side-effects like the wasps in jade forest whose poison gives you haste/dmg boosts, but blizzard seems to have been aware of the exploit potential from the start.
My guess would be if there is another angle like this then its buried in some obscure mob in a vanilla raid somewhere or other, but I'm completely out of plausible debuffs to test for the time being.

[rockyfortesque]

i was thinking about spore debuff from Loatheb - NPC - World of Warcraft
"Increases the critical hit chance of the target by 50%. Spells and abilities also cease causing threat." Fungal Creep - Spell - World of Warcraft
but its still nothing if you compare it with jamalans debuff

[azuro]

Still works as i am meeting tons of them in arena, mostly owning them using defensive cooldowns and having a mage use ring of frost, but yeah annoying as fk;p BLIZZ FIXXX