Ignore Frost Bite on Heroic Council of Elders - Require a rogue

[Yooloze]

Hi , I just recently came back to this forum and the interface changed over the years. I did a few searchs and I couldn't find anything about this. Anyways hopefully it is not a repost.


So for those of you who are raiding Heroic Throne of thunder here is a nice trick to make one of the fight much easier.

I am going to assume you guys are already familiar with the bosses and their abilities.

Frost King Malak is the first empowered boss and he will cast Frost bite about 10 seconds into the fight ( there is a DBM timer for it ) Frostbite - Spell - World of Warcraft

This ability is pretty deadly on heroic and depending on your comp it can lead to a lot of RNG Death or it will run your healers OOM pretty fast if they spam heal you thru it.

You can have your rogue use Smoke Bomb on top of Frost King a few second before he cast Frost bite and the Frost Bite debuff won't be applied to anyone in the raid. Then you simply have to push him before he cast the 2nd Frost Bite. Smoke bomb should be back up before Frost king get empowered again so you can do the samething and kill the fight with 0 frost bite going off.

I've only tested the Smoke Bomb in 10 man heroic ( it was working tuesday 11th june ) , I am assuming it works on 25 man heroic / 25 man normal / 25 man LFR / 10 man normal.

edit - here is the WoL of the kill
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=2244&e=2637

if you look at the bottom it shows Frost Bite dmg was 141k during the attempt , it has to be a bug in the recording of the combat log because we didn't get a single frostbite. Also 141k wouldn't make sense considering it ticks for 300k+ and last 30 second +. Also you can take a look at the death log , noone died.

http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=2244&e=2637


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TL:TR

-Frost King empower
- Watch Frost Bite timer
- Rogue use smoke bomb on top of Frost king 2-3 seconds before Frost Bite goes off
- Frost Bite debuff never gets applied to anyone
- Skip one of the most deadly / RNG mechanic in the fight ^.^

[TheQt]

Will test then +Rep that's an amazing find, =)

[newsneez]

Intended mechanics.

[Xalah]

This is far from intended, Its just like in Dragonsoul, when you could use smokebomb to avoid the ice tombs.

[alucard1]

Not intended, going to use this (even though we've already killed it) Thought this was going to be a post about "use cloak of shadows"

Will rep once i confirm it today.

[Snowee]

First I thought the same, some kind of rogue cloak repost but this is a good find. +5rep

Intended mechanics.

Why would Smoke Bomb block Frostbite on melees? The "no vision" debuff from Smoke Bomb doesnt apply when both (the caster & the target) are in the Smoke Bomb. Thus, not working as intended.

[bjjones13]

Used it last night after a lot of progression, ended up downing it Only got to use 2 smoke bombs during the course of the fight, but definitely helped healing a little.

[jsz]

on 25H 2 smoke bombs is enough to never get Frostbite.

[alucard1]

First I thought the same, some kind of rogue cloak repost but this is a good find. +5rep


Why would Smoke Bomb block Frostbite on melees? The "no vision" debuff from Smoke Bomb doesnt apply when both (the caster & the target) are in the Smoke Bomb. Thus, not working as intended.

It never goes on melee anyway, nor does it go on Mistweaver monks.


Confirmed working.

[newsneez]

It's working intended, on the same way that Paladin bubbles also prevents the debuff application.

GM confirmation even

[mryeah89]

Going to use it next week, thanks.

[iispyderii]

It's working intended, on the same way that Paladin bubbles also prevents the debuff application.

GM confirmation even

Post your proof then.
If this is intended it trivializes the fight b/c this debuff is what kills the most people.

[alucard1]

It's working intended, on the same way that Paladin bubbles also prevents the debuff application.

GM confirmation even

Small difference, when the target gets chosen, he gets a small arrow above his head, and then has to use an immunity, which requires skill to time it, to early and it choses someone else, to late and the debuff still gets applied, requires EVERYONE who has an immunity to watch for it.

Rogue just going "derp 3 seconds before it goes out, drop some smoke"

[Yooloze]

It's working intended, on the same way that Paladin bubbles also prevents the debuff application.

GM confirmation even

pally bubble doesn't prevent the application on the whole raid, your comparison is pretty bad.

To think such a mechanic could be by pass by the whole raid by only 1 class, you have to be pretty silly or clueless at raiding. Smoke Bomb doesn't work on 99.9% of bosses ability otherwise it would be way too overpowered. Blizzard just messed up with this one fight and forgot to make it by pass smoke bomb.

Also, just for giggle can you post your GM comfirmation that smoke bomb should make it so we can by pass the Frost Bite mechanic on Heroic ?

[Caveguy]

newsneez making shit up on ownedcore, what else is new?

thanks for the exploit, OP.