-Rollback - DC Players - Incomplete Dupe-

[googlebee]

your telling me that blizzard logged into your account and logged into your character? your friend is trolling you lol they can check anything they want through the systems they have they dont need to log into your account/character lol

Actually you are incorrect Jan.

In 2011 I was banned on another acct for the Archaeology Wave from Pir0x.

I spent weeks appealing that ban to no avail, however they logged into my account several times, even tho it was still banned. This was easily determined by seeing the name in guild last online. For certain things, they do need to log into the account. (Name changes, guild transfer-ship, deleting items that were mistakenly restored. etc) Though some of these can be done without logging into an account, sometimes it is necessary.

Additonally, if its any help to some, aside from the ability to add a starter edition to your Battle.net account to retain all mounts, achievements etc, you may also phone into Customer Support (OR Email) to request your name back on the banned account. If you were a GM of your guild, you may also request the leadership be changed to your new acct, on a specified toon.

In all honesty, its really just best to wait this out. You will not see any immediate unbans from this wave. The chances of some people being unbanned are there, but it will be some time before they are able to filter through that. Keep in mind the servers are all ****ered atm as well, and this will certainly take priority.

If you haven't sent in an email already, wait it out. its common sense to know that when Blizzard is overwhelmed with tickets about this, they will be more apt to uphold the decision, rather than take time investigating those that were more innocent with there curiosity.

In closing Unless you used a VPN on your account, If you made multiple Scrolls of Wisdom, Multiple DMF Cards/Decks, or any profession items from this exploit, you need to accept the fact that this is done. Your chances of an unban are literally 0. (Myself included)

-GB

[Angerfist]

I think Blizzard can easily determine how much a person abused this and bans should be put out like stated in their Exploitation Policy. ( found here: https://eu.battle.net/support/en/art...itation-policy ) This means permanent bans are for "extreme" cases and not for every single player who vendored a herb or who only made a few to try it out...

Under the "Bug Exploitation" and "Abuse of Game Mechanics" sections of this policy it is clearly stated that only extreme situations will get a permanent ban as a result, not all!

Bug exploitation that we consider extreme includes, but is not limited to:

- Any exploit that has a severe negative impact on a realm's economy

I seriously doubt the few dailiy cd's resets have had any impact at all on my heavily populated server...
We didn't use any 3rd party software and we get this!! While teams composed of 60% bots roam freely in every single random BG, what has happend to today's game??

[Kiermac]

good post Gb. I am just curious to see what they will do to the people who didn't make anything but still got banned. How would they resolve that??

[nofeeling]

Guess the excuse "i just tried the DC thingy once" wont work in my case,would it?! >.>

[stasisff]

What pisses me off is that this delt with a small herb. If someone messed around enough could figure it out. You look at this most of us will stay perma banned. Well why didn't they keep big end game world first guilds banned for let's see here.... Exploiting LFR when it first came out in DS. Those guys got there accounts back and just armor removed. Back in litch king the cobalt bombs that wouldn't make the platforms disapper.. They got there accounts back. A exploit is a exploit no matter what it is. Just because those ones were more public then what this one is.

[mercules]

"Bug exploitation that we consider extreme includes, but is not limited to:

- Any exploit that has a severe negative impact on a realm's economy"

this is exactly what the exploit did no matter how you used it. imo that's how it will stay.

The bit i find interesting is that blizzard really do get their information from here, otherwise all the other dupe methods that have lasted would be fixed with widespread bans, which i know for a fact they aren't...ever.

[stasisff]

Yeah but to have bugs and exploits that big with world first guilds doing them and that public does seem to have a smaller chance of a pema ban. Those guys because there so public get there accounts back in days. Take the LFR bug. You could have literately during the bug sold complete armor sets from LFR as a guild run. Think of how much people would have payed your guild in gold for this. So were is the line between exploiting the economy and something that could.

[nofeeling]

They dont really need to read forums to keep a track on exploits.You'd be amazed how many kidos open tickets just to let them know of what they are reading here ..

[eldavo1]

Guess the excuse "i just tried the DC thingy once" wont work in my case,would it?! >.>

Now blizz knows who you are they can see who was the seller from the buyer

[Angerfist]

"Bug exploitation that we consider extreme includes, but is not limited to:

- Any exploit that has a severe negative impact on a realm's economy"

this is exactly what the exploit did no matter how you used it. imo that's how it will stay.

It clearly reads "severe" so making a few items to try things out doesn't impact an economy at all and these bans are truly outrageous!

A simple revert of items & gold along with an appropriate suspension (24,48,72hrs) depending on the amounts of items people created with this bug would be the most appropriate/customer friendly action for Blizz to take. Permanent bans only for the people who really made many cards or w/e.

Once again, this is clearly stated in their own policy so what this deviation from the policy means its all about the money. Even the Customer Service Representative makes it ultra clear for me that it's all about the money:

While I understand your frustration in this matter, your account will remain permanently inactive and will not be restored.

Your account was banned for a serious breach of the Terms of Use you agreed to. This was correct, and in accordance with our policies. Any action which harms the game for other players in this manner will result in the closure of the offending account, without warning or consultation. Our first responsibility is to our community, and the players who are playing our games fairly. 

Banning an account is intended to be a punishment. It is a palpable loss for the offending player, and a deterrent towards any further acts of this type. Sanctions relating to this matter will not be taken against any new accounts you may wish to create, but the characters from your cancelled account will remain permanently irretrievable. 

If you do decide to continue playing Blizzard properties, I strongly recommend that you review our current Rules and Policies. They can be found at:

http://eu.blizzard.com/support/index/wow_policy
http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/about/termsofuse.html

This matter has now been fully discussed, and we do not intend to enter in to further correspondence on this subject. Please be advised that any future tickets you submit about this matter may be closed without reply.

Regards,

$$$$$$$
English Game Master Team
Blizzard Europe

It's probably time to say goodbye ppl!

[nofeeling]

Now blizz knows who you are they can see who was the seller from the buyer

Oh snap,they might ban me now...oh wait!

[Dune2000]

Exploiting LFR when it first came out in DS. Those guys got there accounts back and just armor removed.

Maybe thats why they decided to perm ban this time; to send out a strong message "Be warned"

Back in litch king the cobalt bombs that wouldn't make the platforms disapper.. They got there accounts back.

Most skilled rogues in top raiding guilds had engineering back than for using these cobalt bombs for a nice extra dps boost, imagine you're a rogue and you never encountered a boss fight, you are the world first who faces this last boss (Not PTR testing either) and you have to learn every ability, encounter mechanic, finding weaknesses all by yourself; and than you figure out that trowing a bomb makes the ice plateau come back. How should you know its not intended to be? Maybe it was part of the whole encounter? You have to try things out in order to understand how the encounter works. How could they know it was a bug? while it worked every time? Its isnt Ensidia's fault to just try out everything and figuring out what works the best to kill the Lich King.

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[kenlongjr]

"Bug exploitation that we consider extreme includes, but is not limited to:

- Any exploit that has a severe negative impact on a realm's economy"

this is exactly what the exploit did no matter how you used it. imo that's how it will stay.

The bit i find interesting is that blizzard really do get their information from here, otherwise all the other dupe methods that have lasted would be fixed with widespread bans, which i know for a fact they aren't...ever.

How does dcing yourself affect the economy

[mercules]

you used a major exploit, doesn't matter how you used it. this is what they ban for. is that really so hard to understand?

[kenlongjr]

you used a major exploit, doesn't matter how you used it. this is what they ban for. is that really so hard to understand?

Look at what YOU said. I'm not the one having a hard time understanding