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    Originally Posted by Meursault View Post
    THIS.

    Also, idd - Getting banned on my main account last year was a blessing in disguise. From experience, I would suggest that you ignore any temptation in a few months to return to the game via SoR etc. Make a clean break. Don't resub. It will never be quite the same. If you did this on your main account whilst understanding the dangers, it's probably out of boredom for the game anyway.
    Originally Posted by Shizzl3 View Post
    +rep!

    Very nice way to put it, especially agree to the last sentence about boredom!
    Thanks - I'm just sharing my experience. If you've played for any length of time, you will get nostalgic after a little. Maybe you'll waste time and money trying to recreate what you had. I know I did. Now I'm just stuck with a carbon copy of my characters, a hole in my pocket, and even less enthusiasm for the game than I had when I was already fed up of it. Don't do it!

    In the end, I'm glad of the extra time and fresh air and I'm sure you will be. Even those of you who are a bit annoyed about it. Give it a little time.
    Zoidberg: Meursault, give me your vector drawing skills, please.

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    Originally Posted by Bossqwerty View Post
    Blizzard seems to take their economy very seriously. It's one of the few things in WoW that can be permanently damaged by exploits like these. They really have no choice but to stick with a zero tolerance policy. With an exploit like this they simply can't go on a case by case basis, it would take an insane amount of resources that frankly anyone who used this in any way does not deserve. Allowing people off the hook based on how severely they abuse something would set a terrible precedent and cause them a lot of grief in the future, in their eyes there has to be no difference between you ("testing" the exploit) and the guy that made $3600. I've learned this the hard way time and time again.
    And they ban people wich means no more gamecards ( real cash ) for them...

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    Originally Posted by madden92 View Post
    And they ban people wich means no more gamecards ( real cash ) for them...
    Like someone said a few posts above me, 99% of the people who got banned will be back in anywhere from a few days to a month and Blizz knows it.

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    Originally Posted by Meursault View Post
    Thanks - I'm just sharing my experience. If you've played for any length of time, you will get nostalgic after a little. Maybe you'll waste time and money trying to recreate what you had. I know I did. Now I'm just stuck with a carbon copy of my characters, a hole in my pocket, and even less enthusiasm for the game than I had when I was already fed up of it. Don't do it!

    In the end, I'm glad of the extra time and fresh air and I'm sure you will be. Even those of you who are a bit annoyed about it. Give it a little time.
    deep shit man, deep shit

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    [QUOTE=Meursault;2637016]Thanks - I'm just sharing my experience. If you've played for any length of time, you will get nostalgic after a little. Maybe you'll waste time and money trying to recreate what you had. I know I did. Now I'm just stuck with a carbon copy of my characters, a hole in my pocket, and even less enthusiasm for the game than I had when I was already fed up of it. Don't do it!

    So true...

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    Originally Posted by Bossqwerty View Post
    Blizzard seems to take their economy very seriously. It's one of the few things in WoW that can be permanently damaged by exploits like these. They really have no choice but to stick with a zero tolerance policy. With an exploit like this they simply can't go on a case by case basis, it would take an insane amount of resources that frankly anyone who used this in any way does not deserve. Allowing people off the hook based on how severely they abuse something would set a terrible precedent and cause them a lot of grief in the future, in their eyes there has to be no difference between you ("testing" the exploit) and the guy that made $3600. I've learned this the hard way time and time again.
    I agree to most of it. But they should be willing to investigate deeper. Imagine that you've played for years, never done anything wrong. Someone in your guild or what have you is just like, "Hey you wanna check something for me? Have you ever tried to put a (herb/ore) into one that your (milling/prospecting)?" Bam. Curiosity takes hold and you may just do it, not even knowing that it's an exploit.

    Rare case. On my server people were running around DC'ing others. I'm sure the people who got DC'd were flagged, and banned also. Not fair. When I first started to see it become a common sight, people were using it to disappear on one side of org, and log back in on another side of org (where they rolled back to) as a 'magic trick' of sorts. Then explaining it to random people playing, who had no idea it was something this disastrous. All unique cases of this crash, I hardly believe that those people deserve a perm-ban. While the majority of us who used this for gain rather than silly games/entertainment messing with people/friends, deserve a ban.

    Shelk

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    best part is that votuus is partly responsible for thousands of people getting there account banned...I bet ArenaNet paid him a nice little sum

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    Originally Posted by Shelk View Post
    I agree to most of it. But they should be willing to investigate deeper. Imagine that you've played for years, never done anything wrong. Someone in your guild or what have you is just like, "Hey you wanna check something for me? Have you ever tried to put a (herb/ore) into one that your (milling/prospecting)?" Bam. Curiosity takes hold and you may just do it, not even knowing that it's an exploit.

    Rare case. On my server people were running around DC'ing others. I'm sure the people who got DC'd were flagged, and banned also. Not fair. When I first started to see it become a common sight, people were using it to disappear on one side of org, and log back in on another side of org (where they rolled back to) as a 'magic trick' of sorts. Then explaining it to random people playing, who had no idea it was something this disastrous. All unique cases of this crash, I hardly believe that those people deserve a perm-ban. While the majority of us who used this for gain rather than silly games/entertainment messing with people/friends, deserve a ban.

    Shelk
    In a case where someone told you to do it and didn't explain what it was I could see it being overturned, since they could check the chat logs and confirm / deny. While I agree that people using it to do magic tricks shouldn't be banned, as an exploiter my first thought is "if people using a hardcore exploit to do magic tricks aren't banned then I'm going to cover up my real exploiting by pretending to do magic tricks," which is why they can't let it slide. This would then force Blizzard to examine every single ban case by case to make sure someone was really only doing magic tricks, and they just plain can't do that.

    I know how much it sucks, I went through the same thing a long time ago. Eventually you'll look back and be like "yeah, I deserved that."

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    Originally Posted by Bibimbapi View Post
    best part is that votuus is partly responsible for thousands of people getting there account banned...I bet ArenaNet paid him a nice little sum
    Lol, he's not responsible for anyone getting banned but himself, it's each individual choice whether they exploit or not.

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    Originally Posted by Bibimbapi View Post
    best part is that votuus is partly responsible for thousands of people getting there account banned...I bet ArenaNet paid him a nice little sum
    Everybody knows the risk, he didnt forced you to use it. If you dont value your account enough to avoid this exploits just enjoy your ban. This exploits are for get as much money as you can and run.

    Kids today learned an important lesson. Real exploits arent for every1

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    Originally Posted by notstrath View Post
    playing since BC, Permabanned maybe I should go to college now, thanks votuus!
    Played since WoTLK, 250 days played, gone forever. Probably time for me to move on I guess

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    No matter what you try to convince them having your account back...well,it wont work.

    I'd agree with some comments posted earlier about blizzard over reacting.It would make sense if this was some kind of "known by few" exploit but come on,this shit was posted on mmo-champ as well.Was spread on the internet widely and you know what curiosity does to people ...

    Hello Michael,

    Thank you for contacting us. After reviewing your issue I’m afraid that we will not be overturning the decision to close your account. While I understand your frustration at this I’d like to make it clear to you that it is with regret that we have to take this kind of action. However we will do so to make sure that the integrity of the game is kept intact as the use of this exploit has wide reaching consequences not only for the game but for all the other players. Closing accounts is not something we wish to do, nor a decision we take lightly, but regrettably it is a necessary step in certain circumstances.

    You are more than welcome to purchase a new WoW-license and attach it to your battle.net account and start over, but this WoW game license has been permanently closed.


    Kind regards,
    Senior Gamemaster EU
    Blizzard Entertainment Europe



    Anyway time to either move on or start from the scratch which will definitely be painful.

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    Got my ban this morning. In contact with XGamerx for my unban now.
    Will come back once I know if it's a succes or not.

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    Got a Perm Bann =/
    7 Years of Wow... Gone

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    unban service won't work. even perma bans are different from each other. if you get perma banned for botting, there is a high chance to get it removed or lowered to 72h, but with an exploit of this sort you will have no chance. your account gets a note what it is banned for, like my main which got hit from the archa bot banwave. tried to get the perma ban off after 2 years because i had several gladiator chars on it, but they told me that they could not remove it in that case.
    but tbh. if you REALLY thought you would get away with this.. then you have to be stupid
    i got perm banned too on my 12 euro SoR acc. i only put 5 volatile air on my gbank, then duped them with a bugged herb, nothing else.
    Last edited by skythex; 01-08-2013 at 09:19 AM.

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