S10 MMR Exploit!

[Stige]

Quote from AJ to explain this a bit further:

You probably know that when you make a new team, for the first few matches you meet really low mmr teams (+- 1700-1800) yet when you win these teams still give you a decent mmr increase. This lasts only 3-4 matches and then you meet actuall teams from your own mmr.

BUT, did you also know that if you still have really low teamrating, and you play with another person who is also in the team but has not played yet, you again meet low mmr teams for again a few matches. You can continue this till around 1000 teamrating and then it won't work anymore, hence you remake the team and start it over.

Its a rinse and repeat proces and it takes some time and dedication till you have farmed up enough mmr to try for that glad/r1 push (Where you can get things like 2,7k with 30-35 winratio again).

[Makelarhs]

so anyone have try this!?!

[Stige]

For those who doubt this, I guess this should provide enough proof: Return of the MMR Exploits and the Interrupt Hacks | Hydramist

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Think up a better excuse next time duelist.

Stop trashing my thread with your useless posts and go exploit yourself a free glad, atleast I got mine when the game was still in shape

[Shodokan]

For those of you who don't understand what this actually is lemme break it down for you.

You cannot lose MMR if your team is below 1k rating for a loss(according to others, i haven't tested). Why hydra or w/e says to use 6 players and change them between teams is simply to make it easier to get a free win for one of the teams because win trading this low increases your mmr while not affecting the MMR of the other team. So you essentially can get to 3k mmr and get 96 points a game up to 3k rating. The only problem with this is that you still have to beat other teams around 2k mmr and also it takes about 8 mins per que if your MMR is super high.

Basically he says to use two teams and dodge because it guarantees someone a win for no work. Also to maximize the amount of people you can get glad on that 3's team.

So not only are you going to get about 300-400 wins while getting your MMR up you then need to win about 30 games basically in a row to get to team rating. Because losing to a 2200 team KILLS your mmr... I know this because i farmed a 2500 lock/spriest/shaman with legendary to 2300 mmr in about 4 losses.

Edit: tested it in 2's... and my MMR according to the system is going down for losses. So you must need to win EVERY time.

Even with my low team rating (0) i queued into an 1850 2's team right away with my MMR bring only like 1650. Doesn't seem to be true.

Win trading is not a new exploit.


Edit:

I think i understand it. This is for like 2.2k calibur players who can just faceroll over 1.7 to 1.9k rated teams and requires minimum of 3 people.

[Flowerpwr]

If only they didn't check for stuff like this when handing out titles. Oh well. I'm not sure if this'll work (the whole "2k MMR, >1k team rating, no mmr loss when you lose" thing is sketchy, but I'll check since no one on here seems to have checked it first hand[COLOR="Silver"]

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edit: nevermind didn't read the end of Shadokan's post :P

[Stige]

Yeah it seems to be like that, not like it is hard to win vs 1800 rated teams anyway so this should work easily for anyone even half-decent in arenas.

[demerda]

Is there any link to explain how arena works ? I always played arena, but only to hit the cap. MMR, Rating, and all those stuff are not explained in game.

[darkdk]

So i'ma call bullshit on this MMR exploit. Win trading is not new, and one of the only known arena exploits that is worthy of a perma ban.

Now what would make sense, is if you did NOT lose mmr if your team is below 1000 team rating.

So for instance if your team is at 2700, and you need 2800 for glad. You could find a 2400 team, have them remake a sub 1k team and que into eachother at night when no1 is que'ing. That way their mmr does not change and you could concistantly farm their team. Other than that, the whole "oh find 6 people and rotate out" is basically just saying "DERP WIN TRADE WITH 6 PEOPLE".

[Shodokan]

So i'ma call bullshit on this MMR exploit. Win trading is not new, and one of the only known arena exploits that is worthy of a perma ban.

Now what would make sense, is if you did NOT lose mmr if your team is below 1000 team rating.

So for instance if your team is at 2700, and you need 2800 for glad. You could find a 2400 team, have them remake a sub 1k team and que into eachother at night when no1 is que'ing. That way their mmr does not change and you could concistantly farm their team. Other than that, the whole "oh find 6 people and rotate out" is basically just saying "DERP WIN TRADE WITH 6 PEOPLE".

This exploit works (i've tested it and gained 200 mmr in an hour from 2k to 2200 on an alt team) but not as you describe and there is no way to stop loss of MMR if you lose your games. If you lose games to 2k or under teams you do not deserve glad even through exploitation.

[Makelarhs]

so how this is working?
its working at all?!

i have 2 3v3 teams
both are sitting at 2065 MMR

i recreate this teams and i just let them wintrade till both have 1000rating and then disband them again?

i recreate this teams and i let one of them win all the time till 1000rating and then disband them again?!

[TehVoyager]

The PvP Trolling is Strong with this one (thread)

Win trading is not a new exploit.

untill we see screenshots / etc for proof of the "exploit" then people are going to question it.

in any case im going to start reporting the general level of DoucheBaggery in this thread.
that may be fine behavior on MMO-Champion, or Arena Junkies, but really, do you PvPers feel the need to treat everyone like trash everywhere?

Either Support the OP by providing proof, Dont support the op and provide proof its not valid, or go to mmo-c or AJ to treat others like garbage.

[Shodokan]

The PvP Trolling is Strong with this one (thread)

Win trading is not a new exploit.

untill we see screenshots / etc for proof of the "exploit" then people are going to question it.

in any case im going to start reporting the general level of DoucheBaggery in this thread.
that may be fine behavior on MMO-Champion, or Arena Junkies, but really, do you PvPers feel the need to treat everyone like trash everywhere?

Either Support the OP by providing proof, Dont support the op and provide proof its not valid, or go to mmo-c or AJ to treat others like garbage.

The exploit is fighting low mmr teams due to having a brand new team and getting mmr like you would for fighting a team of your own rating due to it being basically a "qualification" based match, not win trading. It's not even an "exploit" its just abuse of how the system works.

You have to WIN as well.

[Makelarhs]

after my personal experience i made a video about this!

2 3v3 teams
both at 2120MMR
the MMR is going up but like 1-2 points every win! :S
need a video edit program to hide the names of my plaeyrs. someone got one?

the MMR is NOT GOING always down for the team that loose!

[xulture]

all this info incl the tool to do most of the stuff for you, has been out for a while now, see my signature...

hint: losing team, enter game with one character only -- to minimize the loss

[Makelarhs]

after 6-7 hours and many teams recreates the MMR at both team are 2240
slow but effective if you have plenty of time and patience!