Tyrande's Doll and beacon of light

[Klex]

If you have tyrande's doll, you can stack the buff from the trinket on yourself with Beacon of light for 0 mana cost if you use the beacon of light glyph.

[realdee]

100% useless...

[Arcanejunk]

uhh im not sure what the buff is but getting a buff stack with 0 mana cost sounds usefull

[sofydofy]

ok...this is seems to actually be pretty useful if im understandin this right....cause you store 20% of the ammount of mana the beacon of light would cost without using any at all....
Tyrande's Favorite Doll
Binds to account
Unique-EquippedTrinket
+321 Intellect
Requires Level 85
Item Level 359
Equip: Recaptures 20% of all the mana you spend on spells, and stores it within the doll to be released at a later time. Up to a maximum of 4200 mana can be stored.
Use: Releases all mana stored within the doll, causing you to gain that much mana, and all enemies within 15 yards take 1 point of Arcane damage for each point of mana released. (1 Min Cooldown)
.....soooo idk if this is 100% correct, but it would seem to be how he's trying to explain it....sooooooo don't hate on the misguided!
doll

[Traxex84]

Realdee, maybe you don't understand. It costs 0 mana to use beacon of light yet it gives you more stored mana to your buff this would be great in arena for any healer get that mana back and do a quick 4k+ hit. Although I am not quite sure how it adds to the buff if it costs no mana, does it calculate off the cost of not having a glyph even though you on?

[DDDevilz]

It's still not entirely useful because you only need to spend 21000 mana to reach that cap. If you're telling me you don't spend 21000 mana in a minute of an arena/bg match, then something is wrong with your play style.

And yes, if this even works it would be absorbing 20% of the base mana cost of Beacon of Light before the glyph is applied.

[Succubuzz]

It's still not entirely useful because you only need to spend 21000 mana to reach that cap. If you're telling me you don't spend 21000 mana in a minute of an arena/bg match, then something is wrong with your play style.

And yes, if this even works it would be absorbing 20% of the base mana cost of Beacon of Light before the glyph is applied.

i lol'd. You dont have to use a crapload of mana within a minute in order to be using the "right" playstyle. if the playstyle works, it works. And if it works then it aint wrong.

[DDDevilz]

21000 mana isn't a crapload. My cleanse takes 2400 mana. That spell alone should warrant 21000 mana a minute in a PvP setting, if your opponents are worth a damn.

[Moksu]

100% useless...

agree with this guy, pala should not use that shit glyph

[DDDevilz]

It's a decent glyph for battlegrounds or arenas, assuming it keeps getting dispelled/you need to keep swapping beacon targets. Saves you 2600 mana per cast of beacon. If you aren't recasting beacon a lot then you're probably better off with the Divine Plea glyph.

[BigHands]

I don't understand why people are calling this exploit useless then derailed to calling Glyph of Beacon useless. I've played 2300+ arenas and am currently 11/13H and I use the glyph for both the pvp and pve setting. In pvp Beacon of Light is amazing dispel protection and very useful to spam rebuff on targets that are consequently getting spam spellstolen or dispelled, not to mention it needs to be up 100% of the time to increase mana efficiency and time spent healing. In pve I swap beacons on tanks constantly in order to maximize my hps. It essentially allows me to maintain 150% healing for all of my heals without costing me anything, and mana efficiency, just like in pvp, is key to success as a healer in pve.

So please, before you go on about how Glyph of Beacon of Light is useless for a holy paladin, you better know how to theorycraft before you make these assumptions.

[celticking]

Maybe not useless, but it's not very practical in terms of PvP. First off that 4k mana is nothing, you can't even dispel twice with that much. If you "urgently" need mana, spamming 5+ beacons is definitely not the fastest way to get it I'm sure. Not to mention it warrants using a not-so-popular glyph.

Overall - Valid find, but not something I personally find practical. Hope someone manages to utilize it properly.

[BigHands]

Maybe not useless, but it's not very practical in terms of PvP.

It's practicality comes in its dispel protection of other buffs you apply such as BoP, Hand of Sac, Hand of Freedom, etc etc and it can stretch to protect buffs applied by other partners as well. In order for it to protect something it needs to be reapplied, hence why the glyph is so valuable.

The exploit here is rather minor, yes, because spending the mana required to get the maximum amount from the doll is rather effortless. The topic that spawned off of this (usefulness of Beacon glyph) is actually something I'm surprised people have not caught on yet. Since this isn't the Beacon of Light theorycraft thread I'm going to stop here, but if you can't see why the glyph is amazing you can feel free to pm me and I can crunch numbers for you.