Blood Queen Lana'thel - More time to DPS before full raid MC

[Morag]

Haven't posted something in a long time...
Hope this helps your raids like it did mine~

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In the "Blood Queen Lana'thel" fight, one person is going to be giving a debuff that increases there DPS by 100%, cause no threat, and heals you for 15% of your dmg...
This will happen to a random target in the raid with in 10 seconds of starting the fight...
After 60 seconds your action bar will change and your screen will start getting a red glow...

At this time you have to bite another raid member (be within melee range and press 1) -- This will also give them them the debuff...

~~~ If you don't bite someone you will get MC'ed and proceed to wipe your raid (they get 5000% more hp - not unkillable) ~~~

Now, since another person has gotten the debuff - they to will have to bite someone in 60 seconds... MATH TIME!

0:00 - 1 bite
1:00 - 2 bites
2:00 - 4 bites
3:00 - 8 bites
4:00 - 16 bites <-- 10 man raid will get MCed here
5:00 - 32 bites <-- 25 man raid will get MCed here)

With this being said... Wait till you have to bite another person - Let one person die (before getting MC'ed) that gets the bite debuff then rez them... The bite debuff will be cleared... (hotfix inc?)
More math

0:00 - 1 bite
1:00 - 2 bites (kill the second person here)
2:00 - 2 bites
3:00 - 4 bites
4:00 - 8 bites
5:00 - 16 bites <-- 10 man raid will get MC'ed here
6:00 - 32 bites <-- 25 man raid will get MC'ed here

You will get a full extra min to DPS the boss
Also, sites are reporting that the boss does have a 6 min enrage timer...

10 man raids ----> Since enrage is @6min... 10 man could even kill the 3rd person to get bitten

Ways to die! ----> Purple Fire, DI, stand next to tank to get "Blood Mirror"



TL;DR
Let one person that gets the BITE debuff die (before they get MC'ed) then rez them - This must not be done on the first bite!
You will get an extra minute to DPS the boss

[Vcertno]

Thank you, i'll try this tonight.

[Morag]

Essence of the Blood Queen
It is applied only once but persists thru death like DB Saurfang debuff.

It seems I have left out a major point in my first post...

Let one person that gets the BITE debuff die (before they get MC'ed) then rez them

[Martin240]

Your setup here will be probably 2 tanks, 2 heal, 6 DPS for 10 man.
I assume your DPS are doing equal damage.


This would be the normal fight
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First bitten:
1 DPS is doing 10k DPS over 4 minutes.
Second bitten:
1 DPS is doing 5k DPS over 1 minute and 10k DPS over 3 minutes (that's 9k DPS over 4 minutes)
Third and fourth:
2 DPS are doing 5k DPS over 2 minutes and 10k DPS over 2 minutes (that's 2*7,5k DPS over 4 minutes)
Fifth and Sixth:
2 DPS are doing 5k DPS over 3 minutes and 10k DPS over 1 minutes (that's 2*6k DPS over 4 minutes)

That's a total of 10k + 9k + 15k + 12k = 46k DPS over 4 minutes.
This is 11 million dmg total.



Lets assume you kill one
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First bitten:
1 DPS is doing 10k DPS over 5 minutes.
Second bitten (the one who dies and gets bitten again as sixth person, a bit tricky to calculate):
1 DPS is doing 5k DPS over 1 minute, 10k DPS over 1 minutes, 5k DPS over 2 minutes and 10k DPS over 1 minutes (that's 7k DPS over 5 minutes)
Second:
1 DPS is doing 5k DPS over 2 minutes and 10k DPS over 3 minutes (that's 8k DPS over 5 minutes)
Third and fourth:
2 DPS are doing 5k DPS over 3 minutes and 10k DPS over 2 minutes (that's 2*7k DPS over 5 minutes)
Fifth:
1 DPS is doing 5k DPS over 4 minutes and 10k DPS over 1 minute (that's 6k DPS over 5 minutes)

Summed up 10k + 7k + 8k + 14k + 6k = 45k DPS over 5 minutes.
This is 13,5 million dmg total.


You also have to see that there is 1 minute more dps time from tanks and maybe you healers got some spare time to dot the boss or whatever so all in all this would be a good thing. But this is assumed that the debuff is going away after combat rez and that you have a druid or soulstone in your group.

[Morag]

You also have to see that there is 1 minute more dps time from tanks and maybe you healers got some spare time to dot the boss or whatever so all in all this would be a good thing. But this is assumed that the debuff is going away after combat rez and that you have a druid or soulstone in your group.

We did 3 healers... In the end: 1 was dps'ing, 1 was on and off dpsing, and the last was full tank healing -- This was due to more people getting the buff and healing them selves

Also, your math implies that when the 2 second people gets the debuff that he dies right away...
This is false - He does not die till he has the "Frenzied Bloodthirst" debuff and he has to bite another raid member

That person must die before the debuff wears off or else he will be MC'ed

[Osiris183]

Why is this in exploits? Because it clearly is not an exploit. You dieing and getting battle rezed is a viable tactic on this fight.

Nice guide for the site, even though the information is already widely available on EJ, Stratfu and various narrated boss guides for this encounter on youtube (Kripparion, Adept, etc).

Move this to guides!

[thottstation]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6VMysQNIZM]YouTube - How To / Guide - Blood Queen Lana'thel[/ame]

To think, Youtube has all the ebst exploits BEFORE mmowned.com. Kinda sad, that.

[DDDevilz]

Or just do this:

1
2
4 (1 dies here)
3 (since one died)
6
12
24

Using this method, you gain overall more raid dps, since you have all of your DPS being bitten.

[JUNTOR]

It has been hot fixed supposedly, someone was saying - not 100% sure

[lettuce9]

This can only really help you in the 10 man version and hurts you in the 25 man.

But the 10 man is so easy once you've done the 25 man why even bother letting someone die?

[Elites360]

Lame Attempt at rep. On Front Page of MMO Champion

[Reflection]

Lame Attempt at rep. On Front Page of MMO Champion

Wasn't there when he posted it.

[R0w4n]

Lame Attempt at rep. On Front Page of MMO Champion

Wasn't there when he posted it.

What he said Theres a whole day between
+5 rep

[Spear]

No longer need to let someone die... They increased the time on when you need to bite another person.

[fufe]

Thank you, we are just about to try on this boss on next lockout.