Disenchants rolled items w/o enchanter

[bardbrain]

Since the first 3.3 PTR build u can DE in instances if an enchanter is in the group. even if he is AFK in dal.

working as intented.

Hold on.

It MAY be "working as intended" to be able to disenchant if an enchanter is in your group even if they aren't present/eligible for the item being disenchanted. (This makes a certain amount of sense. Say it's a "unique" epic being DEed. Having it work this way gives the group the benefit of their enchanter who wouldn't be given the "need or greed" roll dialogue.)

However, the exploit here is having an enchanter in a separate party within a raid group. For instance, someone in Group 3 in a 10 man, Group 6 in a 25 man or maybe even group 2 in a 5 man. The person is not intended to be able to influence the people who are in the dungeon in any meaningful way.

"Not working against game mechanics" is not necessarily "working as intended". If you don't see a difference between the two, I'm curious what you'd define an exploit as. The way I see it, the whole (and sole) criteria for being an exploit is getting a reward that goes against the spirit/design intent of the game code but which the letter of the law or actual coding permits you to do.

If the code doesn't ordinarily permit you to do it (even with some odd behavior on your end) then it's hacking, not an exploit. If it doesn't go against the standard design goals as we generally see them in some way (ie. giving people in an instance a benefit from someone not in the instance), it's also not an exploit.

This is probably the purest and most replicatable exploit on the first five pages of MMOwned's WoW exploit forums. It gives a reward/benefit. It can be tested. It doesn't require excessive tricking/modifying code/doing weird things to your UI OR social engineering.

This is the perfect example of an exploit.

+Rep

[Warper]

Thanks, you couldn't define more

Actually, i've seen a lot of good ideas past old days who were merely cutted off by this "Working as intended". But so far as i recall, those were real exploit far far away from common knowledge that much ppl replicate on their own.

This one, indeed, is one i'll use even in Cataclysm if it stay as it is, farming Enchants & all


If someone could confirm the "lvl 1 DE" idea, it may add a rock on this lil' cliff;


BTW : Sorry about mispelling & all, Frenchie's here

[Morag]

awesome find sir
+rep from me!

let us hope they dont make it so the person needs to be in the instance...

here is a couple questions though that still need to be answered!
- Do they need to be online? YES
- Can they be a 1/350 enchanter?

I am going to test out a few things... will report back when done

EDIT: Offline lv5 char with 1/350 enchanting does not work!
EDIT2: Enchanter MUST be online (tested with max level enchanter)

[Warper]

Thanks for your testing.

As i've said, offline & grouped "after" the kill won't work.
A friend of mine did confirm that a lvl 1 enchanting (& level 1 char too) did allow to DE ilvl200+ items.

Actually waiting for confirmation 'cause i don't have empty char slot avaiable.

[Morag]

As i've said, offline & grouped "after" the kill won't work.

There is no post talking about chars being offline made by you...
No matter what - if they go offline (before, during, after "the kill" or "looting of the item") you can not DE it

A friend of mine did confirm that a lvl 1 enchanting (& level 1 char too) did allow to DE ilvl200+ items.

I don't know how that is possible since you need to be lv5 to get 1/75 (Apprentice) enchanting (a Non-gathering skill)

Actually waiting for confirmation 'cause i don't have empty char slot avaiable.

I had gotten a gulidy to invite my lv5 alt with ehchanting to a party - logged off
I logged on my main and got invited to the party - leader was given to me and the other person left
walked in to Stockades and killed some mobs found a green - roll window popped up - I could not DE it

[Warper]

yes, When logged off, it can't work (said in page 1 )

[ShadowRanger23]

nice! +rep and ill have to try this out

[eizeix]

Very useful, thanks a lot. I'll also definately be trying this lvl5 method aswell!

[Merkery]

Going to try this once servers are back up. Thanks for the info

[MastaSlaya]

Great find, definitely. I will use this every day until the day it gets fixed. I love you.

(Are the other people here at MMOwned as stupid as some of the people in this thread?)

[King Protos]

-Group with an enchanter (even if your raid is full)
-Let him stay wherever he wants, he doesn't have to fight or even play
-Loot items in dungeon/raid and pop the roll windows
-See the disenchant button active
-?????
-Profit

Fixed.


Nice find btw :P

[davester]

So in conclusion, the way to disenchant without having an enchanter in the group.... is to have an enchanter in the group?

Holy shit, this is revolutionary.

[xraxlin]

Bol**cks is this intended, nice effort matey +rep
edit, read more peoples comments and seriously cant stop laughing... you really think its intended that someone NOT INVOLVED in the kill or the instance in general would be able to influence ANYTHING that happens inside it? seriously guys, your either trollin or need a brain

[Warper]

Fixed.


Nice find btw :P

Well, actually it isn't fixed & still working (just tested)
I was afraid of it ! ^^

[kingralphus]

+rape from me, nice find.

lol this ^