Vanish Not Resetting Mobs HP

[Zuhi]

Hello! :wave:

I didn't find any posts about this by searching so it shouldn't be a repost but feel free to correct me if im wrong. So on to the exploit:

Today i was running around in nagrand (don't ask why) and i decided to try how much would i crit with ambush to the mob next to me. I accidentally used a macro instead of ambush (which casts ambush and vanishes immediately) and i noticed the mob took the damage from my ambush and did not aggro me. So what makes this an exploit? Well the mob just continued walking around like normal but it's health pool did not reset as it would normally do when a rogue vanishes.

This can be useful when leveling and trying to solo a harder mob, ambushing without the mob to aggro and start killiing it when it doesn't have full hp.

The macro i used was rather simple:
/cast Ambush
/cast Vanish

I don't know if this works with other aggro resetting abilities since I haven't had time to test it on my huntard yet.

I hope this was useful, have fun ambushing the crap out of mobs!

[Explisivia]

did you manage to recreate this ?(do it more then once) ?

[msjh121]

Sounds good, Screenshot or it didn't happen though.

[Zuhi]

did you manage to recreate this ?(do it more then once) ?

Tried it several times on different mobs and it worked great. I also tried to replace ambush with garrote but it didn't work out well

[derty101]

sounds nice

[Wildfern]

Works.. Cool find.

[Astea]

its because the ambush vanish macro does the dmg without putting the mob in combat, which is why you can use the macro on a player and immediately sap them afterwards, i've know bout it but its very situational on its uses, never tried with garrote since don't see it being that useful comparatively

[darkfroggy]

this does work leveling my rogue atm so

thanx and + rep

[Qality]

So basicly, a raid with all rogues using this macro could kill a boss without puting it in combat? wtf?

[Pietje]

*Vanish fails*
*pummel*
****

[kaustos]

Though the mobs are not instantly evading and resetting back to full, they are out of combat and quickly regenerating back to full. It is interesting though, you never see a mob in this state like a player.

Tested on the bone guards outside near the Argent Tournament grounds. They will maintain aggro if you use any type of poison, so you must use unpoisoned weapons (WP will aggro and break vanish).


I suppose a 25 rogue raid might be able to do something interesting, rotating unpoisoned ambush-vanishes until something dies. Could be interesting, definitely has possibility for making things not work as intended since you DO NOT flag in combat and mob health does go down so fight mechanics may never start.

[Gh3ttoRoM3o]

Pretty much the sameway we used to do the Ambush sap in arenas 2 Arena Seasons ago.

[sweetgnome]

Would this work with a Druid Engineer using Gnomish Cloaking Device after Ravage?

Secondly,
since it's been mentioned that you need to have no deadly poison on your weapon etc (or the mob will aggro onto you) what about something to put it in combat for 5 mins, stopping the mob from regenerating health but not causing it to aggro onto you...

/cast Faerie Fire
/cast Gnomish Cloaking Device

Would this leave the 5min curse on the mob without causing it to aggro onto you, but causing it to be in combat for 5mins/not regenerating health?

Probably wouldn't work, but if it does then it'd allow a raid of rogues to slowly whittle down the boss's health over a matter of hours, with a guaranteed kill in sight.

e.g. All the rogues in a guild swapping in and out of the raid group to burn their vanish, without dealing with a tricky boss fight.


Just a wild shot in the dark, no expectation of this being possible.

[kunimitzu]

Works great tho i knew about the amush/sap trick before, i never used this

[Kaiderai]

is it even possible do this on a raid boss, wouldnt they see you? i doubt you could get behind one....