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    I could say that this cache was rare, made less rare

    As blizz hotfixed the bug that would make him continue casting flash freeze even when "killed", and thus shatter his cache during that time, a new bug arouse.

    I sadly, have no Ss's of the event, but my guild, after having killed hodir after a fight lasting 7:06 minutes, got the achievement quite unexpectedly. The rare cace remained intact, and we were able to loot it. (mail dropped, the one time we don't have any resto / elemental shamans with us :yuck. However, after reading about some other people of which the same happened, i'm not entirely sure if this happens all the time. (this was in heroic mode btw, and my 10 man group refused to wipe willingly to try this out)

    The theory goes (and don't start flaming me with "NO THEORIES" just yet) that if the timer expires as he is casting flash freeze, he doesn't shatter his cache, as the new mechanic prevents him from doing so...

    So, how do you exploit this bug? Well, as there is nothing that can actually control at what times he casts flash freeze except RNG, you try and try again until he is casting flash freeze at the moment the fight reaches its 3 minute duration. Warning: This WILL hurt your repair bill and that of the entire raid. I haven't tried to actively bug this encounter, but i can guess that getting him to cast flash freeze at the same time as he is supposed to shatter his rare cache will take some tries to accomplish.

    Good day and good luck!

    And yes, the "exploit" part of this technically contains some theory, but the bug is real, and the explanation for the bug seems very reasonable to my eyes. I would then say that this is not entirely a theory, but just factuous enough that i can post it here.

    I could say that this cache was rare, made less rare
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    Originally Posted by trubadidudei View Post
    as blizz hotfixed the bug that would make him continue casting flash freeze even when "killed", and thus shatter his cache during that time, a new bug arouse.

    I sadly, have no ss's of the event, but my guild, after having killed hodir after a fight lasting 7:06 minutes, got the achievement quite unexpectedly. The rare cace remained intact, and we were able to loot it. (mail dropped, the one time we don't have any resto / elemental shamans with us :yuck. However, after reading about some other people of which the same happened, i'm not entirely sure if this happens all the time. (this was in heroic mode btw, and my 10 man group refused to wipe willingly to try this out)

    the theory goes (and don't start flaming me with "no theories" just yet) that if the timer expires as he is casting flash freeze, he doesn't shatter his cache, as the new mechanic prevents him from doing so...

    So, how do you exploit this bug? Well, as there is nothing that can actually control at what times he casts flash freeze except rng, you try and try again until he is casting flash freeze at the moment the fight reaches its 3 minute duration. Warning: This will hurt your repair bill and that of the entire raid. I haven't tried to actively bug this encounter, but i can guess that getting him to cast flash freeze at the same time as he is supposed to shatter his rare cache will take some tries to accomplish.

    Good day and good luck!

    And yes, the "exploit" part of this technically contains some theory, but the bug is real, and the explanation for the bug seems very reasonable to my eyes. I would then say that this is not entirely a theory, but just factuous enough that i can post it here.

    "the theory goes (and don't start flaming me with "no theories" just yet) that if the timer expires as he is casting flash freeze, he doesn't shatter his cache, as the new mechanic prevents him from doing so... "


    You honstly havn't tried to recreate this event or else it wouldn't be a theory.. It would be awesome to get some Screen or Vid caps of you actually doing this, untill then [NO "THEORIES"]

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    I heard that you could go to The Conservatory of Life and get the buffs of Freya's mobs and then go Über own Hodir
    Destinations unknown, I'll find my way there

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    When i read the topic title it reminded me of

    If anything I could say that this cab was rare. But I thought man forget it yo homes to Bel-Air etc..

    No further interest in the bug, as I don't raid in wow, but still wanted to let you know

    Edit: Oh sh-.. this is one of blizzards references, just ignore me
    Last edited by ziao; 06-19-2009 at 02:19 PM.

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    yeah, thats the reference^

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    You honstly havn't tried to recreate this event or else it wouldn't be a theory.. It would be awesome to get some Screen or Vid caps of you actually doing this, untill then [NO "THEORIES"]
    He obviously can't for a week. Engage brain.

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    God forbid people learned to just do this achievement, considering it's the easiest hard mode in the game.

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    yea really, hardmode hodir is cake.

    go try mim :P

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    +2 Rep, becauze of all da flamez.

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    Ummmm common sense?

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    Originally Posted by therightemp View Post
    Ummmm common sense?
    Whaaaat? How is this common sense... Like, really. Please explain.

    Anyway, on topic. Give us some proof, and then I'll rep you. This could definitely be a nice exploit, but as it is I would rather not screw over a group several times in a row for something that I don't know will work. I'll let you do that.

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    Tried this out today = It took us 3 mins and 5 seconds to kill hodir - We got no archievement and the extra chest with loots was not destroyed because of flash freeze

    Will upload the pic later
    Last edited by [RagDoll]; 06-19-2009 at 09:02 PM.
    Bah! :yuck: I want another cookie!

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    [NO "THEORIES"]

    Fillar

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    Its nothing to do with him flash freezing, sometimes you just randomly get the achievement. And lol at the shit guild flexing it when they got it by a bug

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    Like OMG Hodir Hard Mode is SOOO easy. In fact, everything is easy. I'm really 1337. I get 2800 in 2v2,3v3,5v5. I 3-man Sarth 3D. I'm AWESOME!!!11!!!1!one!1eleven!!!

    Yea Omek and Viralrush. We get it. You're awesome. Get over yourselves and figure out this exploit.
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