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    [Question] new hack ideas

    Hey am starting out nothing 1337 or anything but i want to try something new and different instead of going with xyz hack or same hacks over and over.

    First idea,
    Am trying to bring back the old npc follow hack that was introduced back in diablo 2 that you were able to get npc's to follow you. *i no this will prob be a for sure ban and xtreamly detected but am going for out of the box kind of things to maybe open doors to new things for future.* WoW is extreamly diff than hacking d2 and i via trying this on my own i was wondering maybe from more advanced people if this was ever looked into or for sure not possible and am wasten my time.

    Second idea,
    I was also looking more into a bypass around haveing to be next to your bank or guild bank because it was told it couldnt be done in d2 untill years later people found a method working. Again am trying this also but again want to hear it from others that maybe tryed this maybe ideas they have tryed or for sure ways it cant happen or if this really cant be done.

    End result am just trying to think and do outside the box and brg new things to WoW because i no there has to be more tricks out there than the same old thing year after year. I no these are probly not the best things to start off with to learn but this is the direction i want to take.

    Ty for reading and your time.
    P.S am not asking for codes or sourses just want some feed back from people that have maybe done this and provide feed back to these 2 ideas so am not wasten my time on a for sure not going to happen thing. Thx again,
    Sed-
    Last edited by sed-; 05-20-2011 at 12:42 AM.

    [Question] new hack ideas
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    1. Your way to much cpmparing diablo2 and wow
    2. Don't know about the npc follow thingm I doubt it's gonna work, but who knows?
    3. The banking thing sounds kinda possible if you put down TONS of work on it, but it's probally gonna get detected very fast

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    yea am trying to do as much as i can on a trial account because i havent begun to even touch the surface on what is really ban hammer things but what i have noticed tho a lot of things that could be done in there previous games could be done in there newer games, like star craft and warcraft 3. But as i see it once i figured out how to do it i than can begin to re search and maybe try and fingure out how to go about it in the "shadows" per say. But ty for feed back ^.^. Am just trying to hopefully spawn a new type of hack than to make a new xyz hack or speed hack and release it or maybe share my source or work with someone that has more experience and maybe go from there but thats more future talk and i got way to much to learn.

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    The NPC follow has been done and is very possible, even fairly easy to do if I remember correctly ( We're talking 1.11-1.12.1 days ). Don't know about banking though, unless you just want to show the bank window and not transfer anything; I'm sure there was a server-side check to make sure you were in range to transfer.

    Don't quote me, I'm not actually actively developing for WoW anymore.. I just dabble from time to time when I'm bored.


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    Originally Posted by suicidity View Post
    The NPC follow has been done and is very possible, even fairly easy to do if I remember correctly ( We're talking 1.11-1.12.1 days ). Don't know about banking though, unless you just want to show the bank window and not transfer anything; I'm sure there was a server-side check to make sure you were in range to transfer.

    Don't quote me, I'm not actually actively developing for WoW anymore.. I just dabble from time to time when I'm bored.
    (npc)
    I no i saw it some ware in vanilla WoW but didnt actually get to use it or maybe see notes on it so am going to have to start from scratch and maybe try old d2 methods and as i dig deeper into it and how they work and function maybe come up with new ideas as i start to understand the ingoing//out going packets ect.

    (banking)
    The method am going to try out first is maybe start by being out of range and to swap whats in your bag with whats in your bank and kinda of start from there and slowly cross things off the list.

    Ty for you help ^.^ as i can see you might feel the same way as i do in trying things out side the box and explore more than xyz//tele hack//speed hack since there are 2 really good ones in the program section that are nicely coded by 2 really good authors who i respect.

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    If you want an example of NPC follow, go grab the old source code of ISXWoW. From memory it had an implementation of it...

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    wat
    that you were able to get npc's to follow you
    You guys sure it's possible? Following NPCs sure you can do that crap in ollydbg but ... lol
    Last edited by reggggg; 05-20-2011 at 01:17 AM.

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    haha, If I recall I think BWH might have had this. I also I think he might mean performing a /follow on an NPC as you would a player. As for this..

    that you were able to get npc's to follow you
    NPC way points and travel paths are updated by the server.

    Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I know, even if you did manage to move an NPC (i.e. lolincomingpacketmanip) its location would just be re-updated again and again to the location that the server determines.


    but please, feel free to correct me
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    Originally Posted by everdox View Post
    haha, If I recall I think BWH might have had this. I also I think he might mean performing a /follow on an NPC as you would a player. As for this..



    NPC way points and travel paths are updated by the server.

    Anyone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here, but from what I know, even if you did manage to move an NPC (i.e. lolincomingpacketmanip) its location would just be re-updated again and again to the location that the server determines.


    but please, feel free to correct me
    Even if that's the case it's still possible to override that update
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    Originally Posted by !@^^@! View Post
    Even if that's the case it's still possible to override that update
    Uhhh... no. That would be server-side hacking. I don't know what suicidity and Cypher are talking about (probably read the post wrong?)

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    Originally Posted by Jadd View Post
    Uhhh... no. That would be server-side hacking. I don't know what suicidity and Cypher are talking about (probably read the post wrong?)
    D'oh, I thought he wanted to follow an NPC, not an NPC to follow him. Didn't read the OP's post, I just (incorrectly) inferred what he was asking suicidity's post. My bad.

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    Originally Posted by Jadd View Post
    Uhhh... no. That would be server-side hacking.
    I don't know how the whole NPC waypoint system works but if it works as Everdox described it most certainly is possibly:

    Hook incomming packet handling code, ommit waypoint update for the following NPC and lastly update the NPC's waypoints to the way you run...

    Would it be usefull? No because the placement and distance check server side would most likely fail and i never claimed it would be useful either

    Another more hackish way todo it would be to write the npc's position manually every frame Although it's a good question how the objectmanager would handle it when you travel far enough away from the NPC's real position...
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    Hello.

    I have another new and aweseom idea. What about if we integrate an aimbot like in Teeworlds into WoW? It surely would be possible.
    Or if we try to duplicate items or add gold? Or spawn NPCs? Or make ourselves invisible? Or delete other players characters. I heard it was possible in 1.2 so it sure will be possible today.

    I'm not asking for code here, you no?

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    Originally Posted by schlumpf View Post
    Hello.

    I have another new and aweseom idea. What about if we integrate an aimbot like in Teeworlds into WoW? It surely would be possible.
    Or if we try to duplicate items or add gold? Or spawn NPCs? Or make ourselves invisible? Or delete other players characters. I heard it was possible in 1.2 so it sure will be possible today.

    I'm not asking for code here, you no?
    This !

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    Originally Posted by schlumpf View Post
    Hello.

    I have another new and aweseom idea. What about if we integrate an aimbot like in Teeworlds into WoW? It surely would be possible.
    Or if we try to duplicate items or add gold? Or spawn NPCs? Or make ourselves invisible? Or delete other players characters. I heard it was possible in 1.2 so it sure will be possible today.

    I'm not asking for code here, you no?
    I don't know you well enough to tell, but please tell me this is a joke...

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