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    Originally Posted by Lecht View Post
    *shrug* if calling someone a "****ing moron" isn't disrespect then neither is my comment lol. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly yield and admit to it. In all honesty I was just trying to be helpful, learn something new every day. There's a difference between knowing your shit and using it to your advantage....and what Cypher does. He knows his shit, and well I might add. It's like some one that has a master's in a certain field calling you an idiot because you don't understand their field 100%.
    Yes, makes sense . The best way to learn is through mistakes. I've made plenty of them.

    And, I know your intentions were good. I like helping people out, too! But, sometimes if you don't understand something, it's best not to say anything. If you do try to help someone without understanding the concept at hand, you'll only add to their confusion by giving them wrong information.

    Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. Just learn from what you can - I'm in the same boat you are (or maybe in a worse one, haha).

    Cypher may be a little harsh sometimes, but he has good intentions. I've learned a lot from reading material on his blog/just talking to him. He's pretty nice once you get to know him.

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    Originally Posted by Lecht View Post
    *shrug* if calling someone a "****ing moron" isn't disrespect then neither is my comment lol. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly yield and admit to it. In all honesty I was just trying to be helpful, learn something new every day. There's a difference between knowing your shit and using it to your advantage....and what Cypher does. He knows his shit, and well I might add. It's like some one that has a master's in a certain field calling you an idiot because you don't understand their field 100%.
    You're not a moron for not understanding, you're a moron for acting like a complete d-bag when you have no idea what you're talking about.

    Example
    "You obviously have no clue how warden works" <-- No. YOU have no idea how Warden works.

    Again, the problem is not that you don't understand, it's that you don't understand, and then have the audacity to tell other people that they have no idea what they're talking about. Who the **** are you to judge that?

    I love it when morons get all offended when I come and stomp on them and they resort to the whole "get a life" mantra. That's the best you've got? Really? Are you 10 years old or something? Grow up, seriously.

    Also, lol @ "There's a difference between knowing your shit and using it to your advantage". Did you even read that sentence back before you posted it? Seriously, that's got to be the dumbest quote of the week. Because, well, god forbid somebody use their knowledge to their own advantage, that would just be an awful thing to do.




    Originally Posted by ddebug View Post
    Yes, makes sense . The best way to learn is through mistakes. I've made plenty of them.

    And, I know your intentions were good. I like helping people out, too! But, sometimes if you don't understand something, it's best not to say anything. If you do try to help someone without understanding the concept at hand, you'll only add to their confusion by giving them wrong information.

    Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it. Just learn from what you can - I'm in the same boat you are (or maybe in a worse one, haha).

    Cypher may be a little harsh sometimes, but he has good intentions. I've learned a lot from reading material on his blog/just talking to him. He's pretty nice once you get to know him.
    When it comes to stuff like anti-cheat software, wrong information is pretty much always worse than no information. It only serves to confuse people, and piss off those of us who then have to deal with more questions from those confused people down the track.
    Last edited by Cypher; 11-02-2010 at 11:36 PM.

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    Cypher is, and always has been, an ass. But he's a smart, smart, smart ass, and if you take his outbursts with a great big grain of salt, you stand to learn a great deal.

    I've caught him being wrong before, but it's very rare. And he usually doesn't just spout off about things he doesn't know about; smart people know that there's no shame in saying "I don't know" -- the smarter you are, the more you realize that there is to learn. It's the people who know the least who are the most certain about everything...

    I wonder why he was banned. Fight with Apoc one too many times?
    Don't believe everything you think.

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    Cypher have been told over 10 times now not to post the pictures here on MMOwned, simply because we do not allow them.
    That he:

    A) is too stupid to remember (highly doubt this)
    B) is too stubborn to follow the rules
    C) believes that he is above the rules
    D) cant help it
    E) insert more......

    Is not my problem. Apoc gave you guys a warning as well a few weeks ago about not posting the images, in fact he wrote that the next one to do it would be given a week long ban, so Cypher should be happy that im the one who saw it.
    So no, I did not infraction him for posting a picture. I infractioned him for repeatedly breaking the rules.
    Last edited by KuRIoS; 11-07-2010 at 04:49 AM.

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    Performance In general, ASLR has no performance impact. In some scenarios, there’s a slight performance improvement on 32-bit systems. However, it is possible that degradation could occur in highly congested systems with many images that are loaded at random locations. The performance impact of ASLR is difficult to quantify because the quantity and size of the images need to be taken into account. The performance impact of heap and stack randomization is negligible.

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    Originally Posted by fwxbit View Post
    Performance In general, ASLR has no performance impact. In some scenarios, there’s a slight performance improvement on 32-bit systems. However, it is possible that degradation could occur in highly congested systems with many images that are loaded at random locations. The performance impact of ASLR is difficult to quantify because the quantity and size of the images need to be taken into account. The performance impact of heap and stack randomization is negligible.
    Cool story bro.

    C&Ping stuff you don't understand doesn't prove you are intelligent. It proves that you are a moron: Windows ISV Software Security Defenses

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    Originally Posted by fwxbit View Post
    Performance In general, ASLR has no performance impact. In some scenarios, there’s a slight performance improvement on 32-bit systems. However, it is possible that degradation could occur in highly congested systems with many images that are loaded at random locations. The performance impact of ASLR is difficult to quantify because the quantity and size of the images need to be taken into account. The performance impact of heap and stack randomization is negligible.
    What's your point? No one here has claimed a performance impact from ASLR. And if you're going to post random quotes at least link the source you got it from.
    Windows ISV Software Security Defenses

    Edit: lol, too slow. I should have disabled ASLR so my post would have gone through faster
    Last edited by _Mike; 11-11-2010 at 11:40 PM.

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    Don't mind me I'm just a moron.
    I thought for some kind of uber stupid moron reason disabling randomization would yield an increase in performance, but I'm super stupid dumb moron who cant even computer.

    Now that we know how dumb I am, cool +rep for the tool.

    PS: I was being lazy not explaining anything, or posting a link to page.

    Also you might want to check out CFF Explorer, it's a pretty sweet PE explorer
    Last edited by fwxbit; 11-12-2010 at 01:10 AM.

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    Originally Posted by KuRIoS View Post
    Cypher have been told over 10 times now not to post the pictures here on MMOwned, simply because we do not allow them.
    That he:

    A) is too stupid to remember (highly doubt this)
    B) is too stubborn to follow the rules
    C) believes that he is above the rules
    D) cant help it
    E) insert more......

    Is not my problem. Apoc gave you guys a warning as well a few weeks ago about not posting the images, in fact he wrote that the next one to do it would be given a week long ban, so Cypher should be happy that im the one who saw it.
    So no, I did not infraction him for posting a picture. I infractioned him for repeatedly breaking the rules.
    Definitely B.

    FIGHT THA POWA!

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    XTZGZoReX's Avatar Active Member
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    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    Definitely B.

    FIGHT THA POWA!
    Wouldn't it be some kind of combination of B and C, though?

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    Originally Posted by XTZGZoReX View Post
    Wouldn't it be some kind of combination of B and C, though?
    No. I get infractions/warnings all the time. I'm well aware that the rules apply to me, however I just don't really care if I get banned. I don't play WoW anymore, so most of the stuff in these forums is of little relevance to me. I don't really 'need' anything from these forums as far as information goes, I'm just here to help out and have some lulz.

    Tl;dr: There's a difference between not knowing (or being in denial) and not caring.

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    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    No. I get infractions/warnings all the time. I'm well aware that the rules apply to me, however I just don't really care if I get banned. I don't play WoW anymore, so most of the stuff in these forums is of little relevance to me. I don't really 'need' anything from these forums as far as information goes, I'm just here to help out and have some lulz.

    Tl;dr: There's a difference between not knowing (or being in denial) and not caring.
    In other words, what Cypher is trying to say is; Option A.

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    Originally Posted by kynox View Post
    In other words, what Cypher is trying to say is; Option A.
    So, how do you feel about your sister's pimp allegedly being stupid? =o

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    Originally Posted by kynox View Post
    In other words, what Cypher is trying to say is; Option A.
    Your mother has syphilis.

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    Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    Your mother has syphilis.
    And you do know that because you infected her, right?
    I hacked 127.0.0.1

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