Alittle help

[burton992]

Right i am intrested in learning a language to start programming but i have no idea where to start or what language to pick, Obv i know that Autoit is terrible and i should stay clear of it. So im guessing its between C# and C++, i have had no exprience in programming or anything similiar in the past.

Basically i just want to learn a language what is easy to start with and maybe code a few basic programs then progress onto some advanced programming and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on where to start and what language you think will be best to use.


Also if anyone has msn and would like to give me a few tips ect that would be greatly appreciated, just leave you msn here and i will be in touch.

Thanks

[-Ryuk-]

Read the book thread...

I use Autoit atm...(yes its horrid) but until I have finished my C++ Course that's what im sticking with

[burton992]

Im asking what language people would recommend i should learn as i have had no exprience what so ever with programming, i am more than happy to buy any books dvds ect... to learn from i just want people thoughts on what is the best language to start with.

[Flowerew]

There is no best, it always depends on what you want to do. But since you're asking on this forum and I "assume" you ultimately want to code your own bot you should learn C# or C++, though i think C# is easier for beginners.

[Xarg0]

if you want to write bots and hacks you'll have to learn some basics on asm, it doesn't matter wich language you chose to write your hacks in the end, you just have to understand how things work on the asm level, otherwise you wont be able to revers things yourself.
Ofcourse there's no point in trying to learn asm before you've learned some basic concepts of programming.

[amadmonk]

C# is a better choice for a beginner. C++ is useful, but not what I would recommend for non-system projects.

AutoIT... I don't know. Much of my bot's code is in a high level scripting language (which I won't mention since I want to be the only person using it ) injected into WoW.

The bottom line is that the only way to respond to the question "which language should I learn" is to ask another question: what do you want to use it for?

[burton992]

Well tbh i would like a language what i could use for alot fo diffrent programs ect... i would like to be able to make programs for personel use just for fun and also may consider making a bot, i think i am going to start with C++ then maybe move onto C#

My mate has just dropped off a dvd with aload of videos and been watching them and i seem to be understanding alittle bit of C++ Im going to continue watching them and get a book at the weekend and see how it goes, if i find it too difficult or not as useful as i want i can always try a diffrent language, but thanks to all that responded.

[ReAcTiOnZ]

Wrong way round mate. Learn C# then C++

[flo8464]

Wrong way round mate. Learn C# then C++

Bullshit.
Learn C++ first, you ll learn more about how stuff works low-level.
Switching to C# will just make many things easier and it is easy to learn.

The other way round you have to deal with problems you never had with C#.
A friend is learning C++ right now, he was using Python until now. He doesn't really enjoy it.


@OP: If you just want to code Gamehacks, go for C++. If you want to code various applications for Windows, go C#. If you want to code portable applications, go Python.

[burton992]

Well ive been told by a few people if i take the time to learn C++ first it will make it easier to learn C#, its too late now anyways lol ive just bought 2 C++ books online and the dvd ive got is very very good im picking up on the things very very quick, but like i say if i find C++ to complicated or i find that i dont like it i can just learn C# instaed, im in no hurry to learn them quickly im going to take my time and keep focused.

[EmilyStrange]

Much of my bot's code is in a high level scripting language (which I won't mention since I want to be the only person using it ) injected into WoW.

Python, Lua, Lisp, Tcl or ECMAScript. Remotely possible that it is Squirrel, Erlang or Haskel.

My money is on Python. Though you say you inject, which would be un-Pythonic, and from my observation of your posts on here, you would not do anything that would not be true to the spirit of the language. Hmm, tricky one that.

Yeah, Python. You seem to have a slight rebellious side.

[flo8464]

Python is pure win.
Why is injecting a Python-interpreter against the spirit of the language?

[EmilyStrange]

In Soviet-Russia, Python injects you!

[SKU]

In Soviet-Russia, Python injects you!

[EmilyStrange]

Eeeuuwww! I said "you" not "ewe." Sheesh!

The Pythonic idiom (which I don't necessarily agree with, I was merely pointing out part of the religious fervour that circulates those sorts of conversations) is to pull whatever the object (Warcraft in this case) is, in to Python, i.e. you would "inject" Warcraft into Python, so that Warcraft becomes an object within a namespace that you can manipulate and call methods from.