GameObject and CorpseObject locations gone?

[namreeb]

According to Cypher's descriptor dump from 3.1.0, the GameObject and CorpseField types no longer have x, y, z, r values.

Can someone explain this? Are these types of objects inherited from dynamic objects, which still has the values? I haven't really looked at this for a few months but if memory serves this is not the case.

[SKU]

Just take a look at the VMT of the objects you're interested in.

Edit: Now that I remember, found them on my pc:

x = [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x0]

y = [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x4]

z = [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x8]

[Robske]

Someone will come and say that this is basic
Someone will come and say that you need to search
Someone will come and say that you are retarded
Someone will come and make a joke about how it can point to itself and chain it as such
Someone will come and say that you have to enjoy your infractions

No seriously, use the god damn search button - especially in this section.
http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-me...cs-update.html

[namreeb]

I did search, but I obviously didn't find that one. Thanks.

As an aside, can't this "you could have found that information out yourself" nonsense apply to pretty much everything posted here? Is there any information shared here that people could NOT have found on their own? Seriously.. yeah, you're cool, I get it. You're obviously sick and tired of dealing with people who are where you used to be.. but man that stuff gets old.

I'm just trying to learn here and I thought the purpose of a community like this was to help each other to do that and to help save each other the time of re-inventing the wheel by rediscovering this basic information that is relevant to all of us. That said, if I had seen the posted you linked, I would not have asked the question.

[Robske]

I did search, but I obviously didn't find that one. Thanks.

As an aside, can't this "you could have found that information out yourself" nonsense apply to pretty much everything posted here? Is there any information shared here that people could NOT have found on their own? Seriously.. yeah, you're cool, I get it. You're obviously sick and tired of dealing with people who are where you used to be.. but man that stuff gets old.

I'm just trying to learn here and I thought the purpose of a community like this was to help each other to do that and to help save each other the time of re-inventing the wheel by rediscovering this basic information that is relevant to all of us. That said, if I had seen the posted you linked, I would not have asked the question.

While I do agree with you to a degree, but searching for "Gameobject XYZ" returns 3 different threads... The removal of the gameobject XYZ descriptors obviously didn't go unnoticed so the question was asked before (more than once even) (Easter event anyone?)

[namreeb]

Yes, I missed it. Seeing it now I can't tell you how I missed it, but I did. So thanks again.

edit: sick of seeing this leecher thing just 'cause I haven't found anything worth contributing yet, so here's $25!

[ramey]

Yes, they're gone, but just use VMT. Goodnight

[miceiken]

x = [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x0]

y = [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x4]

z = [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x8]

Jesus, what a shitload of ugliness!

[amadmonk]

Jesus, what a shitload of ugliness!

Indeed. Has anyone got an intent-based analysis of this?

This is one of the problems I have with using offsets in general. Without understanding of the intent, it's just a string of pointer reads and offsets. Once the intent is understood, not only is it much clearer what's going on, but often you can simplify (and un-fragile-ify (?)) the code.

A good example is the "Get PlayerName" code. The C++ code posted here was just gibberish, but once you look at it (and the ASM it's a rip from), it becomes clear what's really going on (scaling a table of hash table entries, using the last DWORD of the GUID as key, IIRC) and you can write a function that looks fairly clean and won't break the next time there's a trivial alignment-shifting recompile of the client.

But, I rant. The folks finding the offsets are still doing a bangup job, and finding ASM intent is non-trivial. Clearly this particular code is walking a list of structures, but what the structures are and why you have to walk exactly N items in remains unclear. I suspect we're not seeing the actual XYZR here, but rather some side-effect code.

[Shynd]

Or it could be that [[base+0x1A0]+4] is a pointer back to base, so a long string of that with +0xD8+0x10 at the end is the same as [base+0xE8]. Maybe? Nah, couldn't be that simple. Surely it warrants a long, ranting post.

[amadmonk]

You make my point for me. Which version do you think is more useful?

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x0]

or

[base+0xE8]

[Robske]

You make my point for me. Which version do you think is more useful?

[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[base + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0x1A0] + 0x4] + 0xD8 + 0x10 + 0x0]

or

[base+0xE8]

Think long and hard over why Sku posted it the way he did.

[ramey]

Find it yourself and stop crying? No one has to post addresses here for you to use.

[namreeb]

Find it yourself and stop crying? No one has to post addresses here for you to use.

If that is directed at me, I was finished with this thread after the second reply.

[ramey]

If that is directed at me, I was finished with this thread after the second reply.

Nah it wasn't directed at you.