C# Books. For some learners

[sickangel]

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/C-2005-Dummies-Computer-Tech/dp/0764597043]Amazon.com: C# 2005 For Dummies (For Dummies (Computer/Tech)): Stephen Randy Davis, Chuck Sphar: Books[/ame]
CSharpBook - Programmer's Heaven
InformIT: Sams Teach Yourself Visual C# 2008 in 24 Hours: Complete Starter Kit - $27.99
Programming C# 3.0 | O'Reilly Media

A few books i found while i was searching for information to learn C#... Please post more if you know any

[luciferc]

http://www.mmowned.com/forums/wow-me...ogramming.html

Post in there we already got a thread.

[Cypher]

C# For Dummies? SAMS Teach Yourself in X?

/facepalm

If you want a GOOD book on C# try "Pro C# and the .NET 3.5 Platform".

Also, yea. There's already a thread.

[galpha]

Cypher is completly right, this book is REALLY well made, well explained and detailed as well.

[Cypher]

Cypher is completly right, this book is REALLY well made, well explained and detailed as well.

Plus it's endorsed by Apoc! What more do you need?

[jjaa]

I am half way through "Sams Teach Yourself C++" and its pretty good

[Cypher]

I am half way through "Sams Teach Yourself C++" and its pretty good

No it isn't. The copy I picked up in a bookstore and flipped through (the latest edition of the 21-days variant) was horrid. Trust me, when you begin to learn C++ at a more advanced level you'll look back on books like that and shudder. I dunno if the one I looked at is the same one you're reading but the copy I was looking at was teaching C-style constructs rather than C++ style constructs (ie const char* over std::string) and other poor programming practices. Basically, it's just outdated and poorly written.

Books which I CAN recommend are:
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Primer-4th-Stanley-B-Lippman/dp/0201721481/ref=pd_cp_b_0?pf_rd_p=413864201&pf_rd_s=center-41&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0201824701&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1CAR0Y6RFPH79M4W MA62"]Amazon.com: C++ Primer (4th Edition): Stanley B. Lippman, Josée Lajoie, Barbara E. Moo: Books[/ame]

That one is good for learning C++ from but the learning curve may be fairly steep if you're a new programmer. Then again, C++ is designed to be powerful, not easy to learn.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-Special-3rd/dp/0201700735/ref=pd_sim_b_njs_1"]Amazon.com: The C++ Programming Language: Special Edition (3rd Edition): Bjarne Stroustrup: Books[/ame]

Excellent reference book. Don't try and use it as a guide or tutorial though.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/C-Standard-Library-Tutorial-Reference/dp/0201379260/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b"]Amazon.com: The C++ Standard Library: A Tutorial and Reference: Nicolai M. Josuttis: Books[/ame]

Same as the above.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Effective-Specific-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/0321334876/ref=pd_sim_b_njs_2"]Amazon.com: Effective C++: 55 Specific Ways to Improve Your Programs and Designs (3rd Edition) (Addison-Wesley Professional Computing Series): Scott Meyers: Books[/ame]

Excellent book teaching valuable techniques and strategies for improving code speed/efficiency/clarity/safety/etc. Basically all around improvements.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/More-Effective-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/020163371X/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b"]Amazon.com: More Effective C++: 35 New Ways to Improve Your Programs and Designs (Addison-Wesley Professional Computing Series): Scott Meyers: Books[/ame]

Same as above.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Effective-STL-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/0201749629/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_c"]Amazon.com: Effective STL: 50 Specific Ways to Improve Your Use of the Standard Template Library (Addison-Wesley Professional Computing Series): Scott Meyers: Books[/ame]

Same as above.

[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Coding-Standards-Guidelines-Practices-Depth/dp/0321113586/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234495502&sr=1-1"]Amazon.com: C++ Coding Standards: 101 Rules, Guidelines, and Best Practices (C++ In-Depth Series): Herb Sutter, Andrei Alexandrescu: Books[/ame]

Similar to the above three books but there is a fundamental difference. The above three books focus on more of the implementation-specific low level details and pitfalls. This book on the other hand focuses more on the high level area.

IMPORTANT: All but the first book that I linked are designed for people who already "know" C++ (obviously noone ever "knows" all of C++, it's such a ridiculously complex and huge language, but I mean "know" to the extent that you understand most of the common language features and how to apply them etc.). If you're not at least an intermediate C++ programmer I wouldn't bother until you're up to scratch on all the basics.

[jjaa]

No it isn't. The copy I picked up in a bookstore and flipped through (the latest edition of the 21-days variant) was horrid. Trust me, when you begin to learn C++ at a more advanced level you'll look back on books like that and shudder. I dunno if the one I looked at is the same one you're reading but the copy I was looking at was teaching C-style constructs rather than C++ style constructs (ie const char* over std::string) and other poor programming practices. Basically, it's just outdated and poorly written....

Ok, I am not going to deny that you would know a lot more about good C++ books then I would, but I am going to throw down a few quotes from the book (in reference to the C-programming styles). The one I am reading is [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-One-Hour/dp/0672329417/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234504558&sr=1-1]Amazon.com: Sams Teach Yourself C++ in One Hour a Day (6th Edition): Jesse Liberty, Siddhartha Rao, Bradley L. Jones: Books[/ame] .

As for using const char* over std::string, “you should base your practical implementations on C++ string classers such as std::string.” – page 91. After introducing the std::string class it never uses char* (from what I can tell anyway) in any of its examples.

“Many C++ programmers reserve the struct keyword for classes that have no functions. This is a throwback to the old C structures, which could not have functions. Frankly, it is confusing and poor programming practice.”

I would love some more information as to why you think this is a bad book. Personally found the book quite boring until I got up to the chapter on polymorphism, and other subjects that I did not fully understand. The book was designed to teach someone programming from a basic level.

Anyway the next book that I am planning to read is [ame=http://www.amazon.com/IDA-Pro-Book-Unofficial-Disassembler/dp/1593271786]Amazon.com: The IDA Pro Book: The Unofficial Guide to the World's Most Popular Disassembler: Chris Eagle: Books[/ame] i got it some time ago but I haven’t got around to reading it
I start a software dev course on Monday so I am sure they will give me plenty of programming books to read. But if I get the spare time I will read another C++ book, I haven’t decided which one but

[Cypher]

Ok, I am not going to deny that you would know a lot more about good C++ books then I would, but I am going to throw down a few quotes from the book (in reference to the C-programming styles). The one I am reading is Amazon.com: Sams Teach Yourself C++ in One Hour a Day (6th Edition): Jesse Liberty, Siddhartha Rao, Bradley L. Jones: Books .

As for using const char* over std::string, “you should base your practical implementations on C++ string classers such as std::string.” – page 91. After introducing the std::string class it never uses char* (from what I can tell anyway) in any of its examples.

“Many C++ programmers reserve the struct keyword for classes that have no functions. This is a throwback to the old C structures, which could not have functions. Frankly, it is confusing and poor programming practice.”

I would love some more information as to why you think this is a bad book. Personally found the book quite boring until I got up to the chapter on polymorphism, and other subjects that I did not fully understand. The book was designed to teach someone programming from a basic level.

Anyway the next book that I am planning to read is Amazon.com: The IDA Pro Book: The Unofficial Guide to the World's Most Popular Disassembler: Chris Eagle: Books i got it some time ago but I haven’t got around to reading it
I start a software dev course on Monday so I am sure they will give me plenty of programming books to read. But if I get the spare time I will read another C++ book, I haven’t decided which one but

Different book to the one I was looking at (do they ****ing have enough different variants?). I'll look into that one soon, but in my experience the SAMS line of books are of fairly poor quality.

The latter book is excellent.

[sickangel]

thanks for the feedback.... by posting those C++ books are you recommending that i learn C++ instead of C#?

[ramey]

thanks for the feedback.... by posting those C++ books are you recommending that i learn C++ instead of C#?

Yes! C++ is much more powerful, but is more complex. Go with C++.