Rebot or Honorbuddy? Which one is better?

[nagymajom]

"Token framework is already online on EU servers. And stop talking about detection of HB. HB is not detected, Im botting few accounts and some were online during tripwire and not single ban." still?

[Nesox]

I would chose Honorbuddy, just saying

[HI5]

I would chose Honorbuddy, just saying

You work for honorbuddy, of course you'd go with them...


Now few cents from someone who is actually using both bots at multiple sessions, and who actually knows what he's saying:

short version:
go with ReBot

long version:
HB just got hit by a huge ban wave, either they did something really stupid to get caught (they were the only bot that got hit) or blizz is gunning for them, either way - getting ReBot will be much smarter investment right now.

Other than that there's a lot drama going with HB atm, that you probably don't want to be a part of, it's not anything new either, their support is among the worst I've ever seen, they're always trying to bend the facts as much as possible just to keep their faces after many screw ups (like just now - they have been selling something, they decided to stop doing it and just bluntly claim they never supported it, even tho you were sending payments to them for that feature).

So yeah, as someone who bot for living for many years now, who used most of the major bots for WoW, and who probably botted on more accounts than anyone on this planet (few thousands accounts now) I have to say that in my opinion ReBot is much better choice at this time.

[automationarmy]

Token framework is already online on EU servers. And stop talking about detection of HB. HB is not detected, Im botting few accounts and some were online during tripwire and not single ban.

Newest speculation is few detected players who were online during tripwire and using LUA heavy things (some CR/Enyo before update) were these who are banned. Reason why there is more bans from US is because warden update was applied during US raid time, @EU it was 01:00AM so not many online users = only few banned from EU.

Wonder how this guy feels now

[automationarmy]

You work for honorbuddy, of course you'd go with them...


Now few cents from someone who is actually using both bots at multiple sessions, and who actually knows what he's saying:

short version:
go with ReBot

long version:
HB just got hit by a huge ban wave, either they did something really stupid to get caught (they were the only bot that got hit) or blizz is gunning for them, either way - getting ReBot will be much smarter investment right now.

Other than that there's a lot drama going with HB atm, that you probably don't want to be a part of, it's not anything new either, their support is among the worst I've ever seen, they're always trying to bend the facts as much as possible just to keep their faces after many screw ups (like just now - they have been selling something, they decided to stop doing it and just bluntly claim they never supported it, even tho you were sending payments to them for that feature).

So yeah, as someone who bot for living for many years now, who used most of the major bots for WoW, and who probably botted on more accounts than anyone on this planet (few thousands accounts now) I have to say that in my opinion ReBot is much better choice at this time.

QFT.

They do the minimum they can to keep profits as high as possible. Unfortunately at the expense of the people who made them rich. Complacency cost thousands their accounts. Even post ban-wave they refuse to do the obvious to make it harder on blizz like port to x64, change from ctm, add randomized waypoints etc. they did just change their developer store contract to give themselves more control than the measly 40% profit margin allows.

Not a fan anymore. They lock and ignore every thread that suggests bot improvements, many of which could have gone a long way in the performance and the security department. Now they're removing features as if that will do anything to placate blizzard and everything to cheapen the product many have invested hundreds into. It should have stayed shut down until they made dramatic sweeping changes to the bot - but profit at our expense wins the day. Much like blizzard in that regard. Bans are still going out steadily and no doubt they're saving for the next big whammy.

It's a pity because feature wise it was extremely advanced and the community has some amazing developers. That being said, if rebot grows it will end up superior I'm sure. The upper level folks there are much more open to their patrons ideas and criticisms, and the bot is certainly more polished. In its current state it's only there for the major common tasks. Unless you have programming knowledge or the hb detection drives a lot of devs their way, you can expect to be waiting awhile for many of the items hb is capable of.

I guess it boils down to how much you value the account your going to bot and what you project yourself using the bot for in the foreseeable future.

[Trixiap]

Wonder how this guy feels now

Thx for asking, Tbh, pretty same. Yes, 2 of my accounts were banned, but I'm long time botter and this wasn't my first ban, so I have no problem with it. I know that you are pretty active on HB forum with "not safe/detected" posts so I will not argue with you.

But I still think, that latest tripwire event wasn't reason why we were banned. Ban was applied on account, that wasn't online during tripwire and also on account that was. When we talk about detection, we must differentiate between "HB detection", "bot detection" and "pattern detection". I still think that HB wasn't detected since some ppl that were using it during "detection" were not banned. As I see it, detection was probably made via Kicks quest profile, Garrison bots or something like that.

[Torpedoes]

They do the minimum they can to keep profits as high as possible. Unfortunately at the expense of the people who made them rich. Complacency cost thousands their accounts. Even post ban-wave they refuse to do the obvious to make it harder on blizz like port to x64, change from ctm, add randomized waypoints etc. they did just change their developer store contract to give themselves more control than the measly 40% profit margin allows.

Not a fan anymore. They lock and ignore every thread that suggests bot improvements, many of which could have gone a long way in the performance and the security department. Now they're removing features as if that will do anything to placate blizzard and everything to cheapen the product many have invested hundreds into. It should have stayed shut down until they made dramatic sweeping changes to the bot - but profit at our expense wins the day. Much like blizzard in that regard. Bans are still going out steadily and no doubt they're saving for the next big whammy.

It's a pity because feature wise it was extremely advanced and the community has some amazing developers. That being said, if rebot grows it will end up superior I'm sure. The upper level folks there are much more open to their patrons ideas and criticisms, and the bot is certainly more polished. In its current state it's only there for the major common tasks. Unless you have programming knowledge or the hb detection drives a lot of devs their way, you can expect to be waiting awhile for many of the items hb is capable of.

I guess it boils down to how much you value the account your going to bot and what you project yourself using the bot for in the foreseeable future.

No king rules forever. Sooner of later their shortcomings will be the death of them. This would never happen if there were better alternatives.

[ur-14]

Thx for asking, Tbh, pretty same. Yes, 2 of my accounts were banned, but I'm long time botter and this wasn't my first ban, so I have no problem with it. I know that you are pretty active on HB forum with "not safe/detected" posts so I will not argue with you.

But I still think, that latest tripwire event wasn't reason why we were banned. Ban was applied on account, that wasn't online during tripwire and also on account that was. When we talk about detection, we must differentiate between "HB detection", "bot detection" and "pattern detection". I still think that HB wasn't detected since some ppl that were using it during "detection" were not banned. As I see it, detection was probably made via Kicks quest profile, Garrison bots or something like that.

This is funny. Even after a banwave like this , that hit lots of people only using CR's, or even using the bot for 1 week,...

You're the ultimate fanboy.

Stop with the denial already, there's no shame in accepting a waterclear detection.

Now, either they start working in the x64 version with improved counter measures, or HB is done for good.

[Trixiap]

This is funny. Even after a banwave like this , that hit lots of people only using CR's, or even using the bot for 1 week,...

You're the ultimate fanboy.

Stop with the denial already, there's no shame in accepting a waterclear detection.

Now, either they start working in the x64 version with improved counter measures, or HB is done for good.

First 3 lines of your post were "good" but you killed it with last line. There is not any kind of protection in x64 architecture and counter measures were already improved.

And about first line... why some ppl that are using HB for years were not banned? Even that they were botting +- same time as every other botter?....

I don´t say, that it wasn't detection, I just say my opinion about what kind of detection it was = Detection probably wasn't based on finding running HB.

And why I stand behind this opinion? Because
1) Not all HB users were banned, even when they were online during "detection" - March/April 2015
2) Some accounts that were not botting were banned, because they have characters from botted account - This kind of ban is not based on finding "running HB"
3) You may say, that accounts from 2) were banned, because they were linked - Not true. I botted one banned account on same PC, same IP, same B.net name, same payment as my legit account which wasn't banned. So legit "linked" account wasn't banned.


I think that you are bigger hater than I'm fanboy

[Sklug]

As a developer, I much prefer the framework that I am given to develop with over Honorbuddy's, to be honest. I don't know why, but I find Honorbuddy's to be kind of meh in terms of development work. Rebot makes it kind of fun, and also makes my job a lot easier at times, for example, I don't need to run things in Fibers when I am using IEnumerable<> methods in C# to take advantage of "yield returns" and so on because the scripting framework handles it all for you (though of course I have my own custom API I have developed that on a deeper level of course does this), but for most scripting creators, it is much easier for people with zero background in programming to developer their own complex scripts.

Some people have mentioned that it's easy to build plugins on Honorbuddy, which is true, but it is also easy in Rebot, being able to load in my own C# script with Lua executable code too, allows me all the same functionality, it's just a matter of someone doing it. HB for a very long time has been the juggernaut and as such, had the most developer support too, and the most demand for custom plugins and scripts. Rebot, for being an infantile bot has already a growing and fairly strong compliment of tools being introduced for players to use, but it is STILL lacking specific ones that seem to exist for everything with HB. It's really just a matter of "Until some dev decides to do it."

I will say that I enjoy using it, and it is "FUN" to write for, and that is the main reason I use it personally. But, I am a little biased for Rebot over HB because that is what I choose to use.

[thenthelies]

gg rebot :^)

[jackus]

Rebot users just got banned. No one is safe any more

[bcofido]

Rebot ban confirmed!

[exdeus]

Rebot ban confirmed!

i have botted 3 toons from 0 to 100 past weeks and no ban....
and yes rebot will be better than HB with very good cr upcoming (tuhana, gs, vitalic...) Hb is so slow with poor fps....

[thenthelies]

i have botted 3 toons from 0 to 100 past weeks and no ban....
and yes rebot will be better than HB with very good cr upcoming (tuhana, gs, vitalic...) Hb is so slow with poor fps....

assuming you're not lying, which version of windows do you use? and no, the upcoming CR's got canceled considering, you know, the vast majority of accounts that injected rebot have been hit with perma bans.