Frost and Unholy DK PVP Mashups!!

[davehammer4]

cant find any dk pvp profiles that use soul reaper

[FrostDKsFTW]

cant find any dk pvp profiles that use soul reaper

You probably won't find one because it would be almost impossible to code a "smart" Soul Reaper in PvP because the profile would need to know if the target was a kill target, how fast the person is dropping in order to do the Soul Reaper at the right time in order for it to go off when they are below the 35% needed for it to do damage.

Of course you could code it to Soul Reaper when the target gets below 50% (example) and hope that the target will be below 35% when it expires but in PvP so many factors affect it. The target could wall and go defensive (never dropping below 35%), could receive a big heal, you could be cc'd and not do enough further damage, ect. By doing so every time the target drops below 50% you would be wasting a frost/unholy rune if it didn't go off way too much. For a profile its much better to just leave Soul Reaper out and use the runes on Howling Blasts/Big Obliterates.

TL;DR Soul Reaper can be very effective in PvP because of its "surprise damage" but it can only be used effectively with human instinct, which is very difficult to code into a profile.

[chk]

You probably won't find one because it would be almost impossible to code a "smart" Soul Reaper in PvP because the profile would need to know if the target was a kill target, how fast the person is dropping in order to do the Soul Reaper at the right time in order for it to go off when they are below the 35% needed for it to do damage.

Of course you could code it to Soul Reaper when the target gets below 50% (example) and hope that the target will be below 35% when it expires but in PvP so many factors affect it. The target could wall and go defensive (never dropping below 35%), could receive a big heal, you could be cc'd and not do enough further damage, ect. By doing so every time the target drops below 50% you would be wasting a frost/unholy rune if it didn't go off way too much. For a profile its much better to just leave Soul Reaper out and use the runes on Howling Blasts/Big Obliterates.

TL;DR Soul Reaper can be very effective in PvP because of its "surprise damage" but it can only be used effectively with human instinct, which is very difficult to code into a profile.

What are your thoughts on adding it to the beginning of a burst mode? Before popping CDs? Or even midway: soul reaper if target health is < 60% + burstmode is activated?

[Aleksonfire]

What are your thoughts on adding it to the beginning of a burst mode? Before popping CDs? Or even midway: soul reaper if target health is < 60% + burstmode is activated?

60% is really high to be popping soul reaper. In well geared games I would suggest waiting til about 45%, popping as many necrotic strikes as you can and then lay the beat down.
Now we could possibly put it as an opener for a burst mode, however the risk for that is you would lose control of it.

[davehammer4]

I would settle for having it on a hot key....someone coded something similar on another profile, I think another class altogether...however, when hotkey was pushed it saved the resource until it could get that spell cast....pushing something like that in pvp I think would be better than not.....

or option b - use a mouse button to enable/disable profile...probably could be fast enough to use soul reaper manually

[TKID]

Any plans for 5.2? This profile is so good atm i can only see it getting better in 5.2

[imdasandman]

Any plans for 5.2? This profile is so good atm i can only see it getting better in 5.2

Only change to dk is unholy plague strike will also apply frost fever and garg no longer requires rp to cast.. So only thing that has to be changed for unholy is to drop the frost fever checks if he has them and take the rp check for garg cast out.


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[Rubim]

Unholy will be updated soon, and i'm gonna put a PVP profile.

[z26]

can you add Death and Decay to the rotation? and use it by hotkey?

[FrostDKsFTW]

Unholy will be updated soon, and i'm gonna put a PVP profile.

I love you.

[tropical]

Unholy will be updated soon, and i'm gonna put a PVP profile.

Will the unholy pvp profile be put in your thread or this thread? kinda confused :/

[19benni81]

why he does not use Strangulate, Mind Freeze, Necrotic Strike, Death Strike,Anti-Magic Shell, Icebound Fortitude, Raise Dead&Death Pact.....and things linke this!?

(atm i use [Frost DK PvP] Hour of Frost v2 Gladiator Edition and LazyRaider....But I really wanted to use no more Hb) ^^

[Ninjaderp]

^^ Possibly because those are highly situational and left for the user to control, or they are supported and you are doing something wrong.
Mind Freeze is easy, just enable the interrupt profile.

[Leetjerk]

why he does not use Strangulate, Mind Freeze, Death Strike,Anti-Magic Shell, Icebound Fortitude, Raise Dead&Death Pact.....and things linke this!?

(atm i use [Frost DK PvP] Hour of Frost v2 Gladiator Edition and LazyRaider....But I really wanted to use no more Hb) ^^

Hey Y'all I've returned to the land of the living :P Profiles like this could automate these things for you based on certain conditions but when it comes down to it, you're going to go nowhere even with this profile if you don't know the appropriate conditions to use them.

Also I've had 3 people tell me they've ranked with my unholy profile in PVE? wasn't really expecting that but i'll see what I can do to help you guys. though it seems that Rubim's got that covered

[Persikos]

Hey. Sorry for my bad English. Super profile, thanks Leetjerk. I changed it a little for themselves. It uses anti-magic zone, and others can add what else there. Thank you for the effort. Please change it by 5.2 If this is not difficult. I would really wait.
Hold Left Shift -- Spam Dispell (Glyph of Icy Touch required) / temporarily disabled
Left Alt -- Strangulate Focus + Blood Tap
Left Control- Chains of Ice on mausoveru
Right Ctrl -- Toggle Damage CD's on/off
Right Shift -- Toggle between Unholy and Blood Presence
Right Alt -- DnD on mausoveru
Hold The middle mouse button- Soul Reaper (юз на 40% hp)
The 4 mouse button -- Remorseless Winter/Desecrated Ground (смотря что взято)

I change in the profile of places DND and Anti-Magic Zone in rotation, as needed mouse button 5 and button missing.
Right Alt - Anti-Magic Zone (Change is possible mouse button 5 )
DEATHKNIGHT.rar ? Yandex.Disk
Need more Necrotic!!!