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    Hi! Thanks for your feral profile, it's really wonderful and i use it every day! Yesterday i did SoO flex with it and i observed that even when i had single target mode, i did damage on near targets. In the second encounter it was a bit embarassing! XD

    Is it normal? Maybe i'm doing something wrong?

    Sorry for my english and thanks

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    Just to let you know a few things I noticed in Arms Warrior profile:
    - Does not use Thunder Clap, ever.
    - Not sure about Sweeping strikes, but I don't think I've seen it.
    - Tries to use Harmstring in PVE, even on bosses I think.
    - Sometimes from all CDs uses only banner.
    - Doesn't use Bladestorm in any mode.
    - Doesn't use Healthstones.
    - Not sure how that works, but it often uses Heroic Leap out of combat.
    - Shield wall does not require shiled now. It can be set to be used at some health %.
    - Not very sure it uses Disrupting Shout.
    -Doesn't use racials.

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    Originally Posted by Jackall85 View Post
    Hi! Thanks for your feral profile, it's really wonderful and i use it every day! Yesterday i did SoO flex with it and i observed that even when i had single target mode, i did damage on near targets. In the second encounter it was a bit embarassing! XD

    Is it normal? Maybe i'm doing something wrong?

    Sorry for my english and thanks
    Its probably using thrash, shouldnt be that much concern regarding the damage on the second boss.

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    maybe legendary cloak

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    Haha yeah might be that aswell ^^

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    No i have not the legendary cloak! Thanks for the reply!

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    Thrash is used in single as it's a DPs increase, faerie fire was working...I'll have to investigate this. As for arms I'll get to work on that also.

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    Hey there, I'm not sure how these profiles work, as I'm usually using HB (but it's down so, T_T)
    But I was wondering if you could make some changes to the feral profile?
    I notice that you have it using shred. Shred is a MAJOR dps loss in 5.3/4. It should be using mangle.
    Also, does tiger fury just cast automatically? Otherwise, the rotation would be much better if it was Thrash, Rake, Mangle (get 5 combo points), Tiger's Fury, Rip, then mangle as filler and then refresh bleeds as needed. Faerie fire and savage roar as necessary, etc.
    Oh, and when I use prowl (or when it puts me in prowl) it doesn't open up with pounce or ravage, which is also a major dps loss.
    Again, I don't know anything of this, or how it works, just trying to help. If this offended you, I'm sorry, just trying to help :P

    Edit: Er, sorry, I sometimes forget that I'm not really PvE. Shred is a good move, however, the chances of being behind your target is slim to none. So since the routine doesn't use mangle (cat form), it doesn't really do much. At least not for me :c
    Last edited by F299; 09-12-2013 at 05:42 PM.

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    Originally Posted by F299 View Post
    Hey there, I'm not sure how these profiles work, as I'm usually using HB (but it's down so, T_T)
    But I was wondering if you could make some changes to the feral profile?
    I notice that you have it using shred. Shred is a MAJOR dps loss in 5.3/4. It should be using mangle.
    Also, does tiger fury just cast automatically? Otherwise, the rotation would be much better if it was Thrash, Rake, Mangle (get 5 combo points), Tiger's Fury, Rip, then mangle as filler and then refresh bleeds as needed. Faerie fire and savage roar as necessary, etc.
    Oh, and when I use prowl (or when it puts me in prowl) it doesn't open up with pounce or ravage, which is also a major dps loss.
    Again, I don't know anything of this, or how it works, just trying to help. If this offended you, I'm sorry, just trying to help :P
    There's so much wrong with this. Here's what it currently does right now:
    -Already Mangles instead of Shred if it detects you have at least a 2piece Last tier Set Bonus. If you loose any of that to newer gear because you think its better, then it will go back to using Shred. It's only a DPS increase to use mangle if you have the Tier 2set. It has been tested in 5.4 to show a lose of DPS in latest gear to spam Mangle over Shred
    -Shred is only used when Berserk is up and in some cases Tiger's Fury. Don't remember when it will use Shred in Tiger's Fury.
    Tiger's Fury has some pretty good logic. It will usually cast automatically, but if Rip/Ferocious Bite (Mainly Rip), it will wait try to wait to cast so that you can get that extra Damage on Those 2 attacks.
    -It also already uses Ravage/Pounce when starting a fight. Just don't be an idiot and right click the boss to already make yourself Auto Attack the target. Just left click and let the Rotation do its own thing. Might help to let it Auto Prowl by itself as well.

    P.S. This profile is way better than HonorBuddy. I have yet to see any Druid profile beat this one. The only reason there are really bugs right now, is because just like HonorBuddy, a lot of the code has to be re-done to make it 5.4 compatible. A lot of the stuff we had coded in before for increased DPS has been removed with the latest updates or spellID's changed. So some of the stuff I have listed above could have actually been broken after the new patch came out and we just didn't catch it when we were re-coding the profile.

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    There's so much wrong with this. Here's what it currently does right now:
    -Already Mangles instead of Shred if it detects you have at least a 2piece Last tier Set Bonus. If you loose any of that to newer gear because you think its better, then it will go back to using Shred. It's only a DPS increase to use mangle if you have the Tier 2set. It has been tested in 5.4 to show a lose of DPS in latest gear to spam Mangle over Shred
    -Shred is only used when Berserk is up and in some cases Tiger's Fury. Don't remember when it will use Shred in Tiger's Fury.
    Tiger's Fury has some pretty good logic. It will usually cast automatically, but if Rip/Ferocious Bite (Mainly Rip), it will wait try to wait to cast so that you can get that extra Damage on Those 2 attacks.
    -It also already uses Ravage/Pounce when starting a fight. Just don't be an idiot and right click the boss to already make yourself Auto Attack the target. Just left click and let the Rotation do its own thing. Might help to let it Auto Prowl by itself as well.

    P.S. This profile is way better than HonorBuddy. I have yet to see any Druid profile beat this one. The only reason there are really bugs right now, is because just like HonorBuddy, a lot of the code has to be re-done to make it 5.4 compatible. A lot of the stuff we had coded in before for increased DPS has been removed with the latest updates or spellID's changed. So some of the stuff I have listed above could have actually been broken after the new patch came out and we just didn't catch it when we were re-coding the profile.
    I love how you assumed I'm being an idiot, but mmk.
    Anyways. What t2 bonus are you talking about? PvP set or PvE?
    I don't right click, in fact, I left click, and it already tries to do everything before I'm even near, and when I get near it uses thrash.
    As for the This>HB, I did 200k with HB, this I do 40.

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    Originally Posted by F299 View Post
    I love how you assumed I'm being an idiot, but mmk.
    Anyways. What t2 bonus are you talking about? PvP set or PvE?
    I don't right click, in fact, I left click, and it already tries to do everything before I'm even near, and when I get near it uses thrash.
    As for the This>HB, I did 200k with HB, this I do 40.
    Well, imo, you are an idiot because PQRotation is NOTHING like HonorBuddy. I have used both this and HonorBuddy for End Game Raiding in 5.3, and even with the top profiles for HonorBuddy, this still out performs it. Like I said, don't assume everything will work off the bat after a new patch. Everything here, profiles and bot included (Though Xelper is really quick on updating the bot to get it to work) needs to be updated for 5.4. Like I stated, what is released now is a working profile from the stuff that was noticed that were throwing errors to make it not work. Just give the writer some time to fix the errors and everything will start working again. Either that or make sure you have the latest update of the profile instead of an older one.

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    Originally Posted by firepong View Post
    Well, imo, you are an idiot because PQRotation is NOTHING like HonorBuddy. I have used both this and HonorBuddy for End Game Raiding in 5.3, and even with the top profiles for HonorBuddy, this still out performs it. Like I said, don't assume everything will work off the bat after a new patch. Everything here, profiles and bot included (Though Xelper is really quick on updating the bot to get it to work) needs to be updated for 5.4. Like I stated, what is released now is a working profile from the stuff that was noticed that were throwing errors to make it not work. Just give the writer some time to fix the errors and everything will start working again. Either that or make sure you have the latest update of the profile instead of an older one.
    No, actually, the idiot here, is you. I clearly stated that I knew NOTHING about this("I'm not sure how these profiles work"), since I use HB, and not this. You then decided to reply with a negative attitude and calling me an idiot.
    From what I understood when I first viewed this, it was working, so yes, that was my fault. However, as an "Elite User", you should be more helpful more than a dick. Would make more sense, in my opinion.
    Thanks for the information though.

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    Originally Posted by F299 View Post
    No, actually, the idiot here, is you. I clearly stated that I knew NOTHING about this("I'm not sure how these profiles work"), since I use HB, and not this. You then decided to reply with a negative attitude and calling me an idiot.
    From what I understood when I first viewed this, it was working, so yes, that was my fault. However, as an "Elite User", you should be more helpful more than a dick. Would make more sense, in my opinion.
    Thanks for the information though.
    NP, glad I could help.

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    Are you sure you have pqi and pqr installed? I am near top of dps and having no issues. I have to side with pong on this one.

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    First let me say, thanks for taking the time to make and keeping these profiles updated. I would not be able to play wow with as spammy as the rotations have become if it wasn't for PQR due to nerve damage in my left hand. I have tried all of the Arms Profiles for PVE I could find, but this one is still my favorite. I know very little about the coding, just what I have learned from messing around with this profile.

    From what I have found in the latest version or your Warrior Arms PQR 1.1.4, and since 5.4, the things that need fixed are;

    Heroic leap: It works "sometimes", but often when the timer is up, glyphed or not, in or out of combat, it won't trigger. I am not sure if it has something to do with it's placement in the rotations, or the code. I like being able to start combat with it and charge.

    Hamstring: It seems as if it's just not checking for Immunity on some mobs, it just spams it.

    Shield Wall: I tired placing "if php<=25 and check(sw) then cast(gsi(sw))" in Defensive same as Die by the sword on the Rotation, but it won't trigger. It's listed in Initial under ------ABILITIES------- as "sw = 871 --Shield Wall". I am not sure if it needs added separately to the Rotation, or the code is wrong. Die by the Sword "if php<=25 and check(dbts) then cast(gsi(dbts))" works fine though.

    Disrupting Shout: I know this one is due to the coding after Pummel in Interrupts. A lot of the warrior profiles I have tried, Disrupting Shout never works even though it is listed, so I thought it might be an issue with Xelper. I did a clean install of PQR and tried Partykilla's [PQR] Arms Warrior PvP 5.4 and Disrupting Shout works every time without having to modify Xelper. Here is the code if it helps any "if (cdRemains(6552) > 0 or rangeCheck(6552,castingTarget) == nil) and cdRemains(102060) == 0 and CheckInteractDistance(castingTarget,3) ~= nil and UnitIsEnemy("player",castingTarget) ~= nil and ( PQR_IsOnInterruptList(cName) ~= nil or PQR_IsInterruptAll() ~= nil ) and currentPercent > intPctDelay then _castSpell(102060) PQR_DelayRotation(.5) end"

    Spell Reflection: This one is pretty much the same as Shield Wall if placed in Defensive, or Disrupting Shout if placed in Interrupts. It's listed in the Initial as "sr = 23920 --Spell Reflection" It just won't trigger for either. I would like to see it work like if Pummel and DS are on cooldowns to be third, or go off if not in range for Pummel or DS.

    Potions, and Healthstones: They aren't listed in the Rotation (Defensive) anywhere, they just need coded in is my guess as to why they don't work. Potions are listed in the Lua, not Healthstones though.

    Racials: I tried adding Blood Fury (Orc) to the cooldowns with no luck. I added it to the Initial as "blf = 20572 --Blood Fury", added it to the Rotation list above Recklessness. "if incom and ((SpecialUnit() and PQ_CD==CD_BossOnly) or PQ_CD==CD_Auto) and (smashed==1 or cd(gsi(cs))>=1.5) and pow>=75 and sir(gsi(ms),t)==1 and check(blf) then cast(gsi(blf)) end"

    Bladestorm: "bls = 46924 --Bladestorm. I did the same as Blood Fury with no luck, but it doesn't stop the Rotation, just acts as it's not listed. "if incom and sir(gsi(ms),t) == 1 and check(bls) and gcdcheck then cast(gsi(bls)) gcd = GetTime()+1 end".


    Couple of things I would like to see added. If any of the defensive cooldowns are triggered or health drops below a certain amount and your not in melee range of your target, it swaps you to defensive stance until back in melee range, then goes back into battle stance. Offensive Potions and Engineering Glove enchants added to offensive cooldowns.

    I am testing out fixes for a lot of this, I will post back anything I find.

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