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[cukiemunster]

Hmmm, I am not sure what is up with Sim Craft, but with the newest version the haste build I have been trying out is now showing about a 10k dps loss to the standard Mastery build, and I have been seeing this in raids as well. While I don't seem as energy starved as I do with Mastery, I have noticed my dps seemed to be a little low. Idk if this was a calculation error with the previous version or what, but as of now ignore everything I have said about haste being better than mastery at higher ilvls....

[Drinksbeer]

You are correct on both parts Cuk...

Haste will scale better at a super high ilvl, but it has to be to a point where you have just about cleared 13/13 heroic and have everything upgraded so then the question becomes "do i really need to boost dps by 10-15k since everything is down?" Also haste is good for Bear-Catting situations. I have noticed a lot of the end-game guilds have their cat druids doing some bear-cat sharing so they have been stacking more and more haste, you will even see a lot of cats now with crit/haste as well.

But isn't it great being so versatile!!!

As to the PTR question, as far as I know, Cute hasn't had a chance to check out the PTR and it really hasn't been a huge topic of discussion....yet. I am glad you brought it up, it is something that should be on the horizon.

[Jubalee]

You are correct on both parts Cuk...

Haste will scale better at a super high ilvl, but it has to be to a point where you have just about cleared 13/13 heroic and have everything upgraded so then the question becomes "do i really need to boost dps by 10-15k since everything is down?" Also haste is good for Bear-Catting situations. I have noticed a lot of the end-game guilds have their cat druids doing some bear-cat sharing so they have been stacking more and more haste, you will even see a lot of cats now with crit/haste as well.


But isn't it great being so versatile!!!

As to the PTR question, as far as I know, Cute hasn't had a chance to check out the PTR and it really hasn't been a huge topic of discussion....yet. I am glad you brought it up, it is something that should be on the horizon.

Would the gemming haste /crit not be because they are using rune of reorigination as I know myself that I will be aiming to always have my crit and haste equal with my mastery 1 point higher and it has nothing to do with bear/catting as that is dead and gone with cataclysm. I dont see how any haste builds will be stronger that sotf doc rune of reorigination build as it only does more and more damage at higher gear levels and I have cleared 13/13 and dont see any hotw build with haste being strong on any fights other than maybe twins during phase 2 lurkers for the hurricane aoe.

[Drinksbeer]

It's going to be purely role driven and situational for each individual. And bearcatting isn't dead a lot of 25 mans have started using it again. But you are right in wanting to keep mastery higher with roro, it's still our best "overall pure damage" stat for feral. I think that a lot more "experimenting" is going on now since more and more guilds are clearing HMs.

[botirk]

Clearly haste was option for cats because HOTW-WrathSpam. If you are not going to HOTW-WrathSpam haste IS NOT good stat at all.

Haste boosts only: autoattacks(20% dps), energy regen for bite(8% dps), trinkets(1% haste = +1% trinket procs versus 0% haste)

[Nixo]

iv tested Hotw with 8k haste 8k crit and 12k mastery with out Roro proc
it was shitty dps compare to DoC and stacking mastery all the way
when i had 17k mastery

[Drinksbeer]

It appears the magic combo for percentages is 16-18% haste, 38-41% crit and 64-66% mastery, those stats are unbuffed and in caster form.

[botirk]

@Drinksbeer
16-18% haste:
17% more bite damage, cause more energy
17% more AA damage
17% more trinkets uptime

16-18% crit:
14% more bite damage, cause you spend less energy on combo generation
17% more overall damage


Guess which stat is better(without RoR)?
You should not ignore haste only because diminishing returns on crit.

[Drinksbeer]

I'm not ignoring any of them, they are all good in their own way. I was just giving a general % window for people who might be aiming for certain stats. I myself am fine with the results, I'm just lending a hand, not trying to say 1 is better than the other. If you pull up world of logs, go to the heroic boss kills for dps, pull up all kitty on all bosses you will start to see that trend of those % windows. Figured I would do that research and post those numbers so people wouldn't have to.

[cassrgs]

anyone have tested feral on ptr? since doc gona be nerfed it seems haste/hotw gona be the deafult choice? what your toughts about it?

[ph34rt3hcute1]

I would be interested as well as i don't PTR

[botirk]

DOC is not going to be nerfed. Chill guyz

The only one nerf is pvp cyclone one.

[sh00k]

I'm trying to modify this profile to be used for PVP. Could anyone shed some insight on how to make the profile use the Ravage proc that happens every 30s from the PVP set bonus? I've searched the forums but no luck.

Also interested on how to prioritize Ravage during incarnation.

Any input much appreciated.

[botirk]

I doubt optimizing PVE rotation for PVP make sense.

[sh00k]

I doubt optimizing PVE rotation for PVP make sense.

You'd be surprised how well it does.