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    tek.crx's Avatar Active Member
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    Just sent some cash for the Fire profile, looked pretty good in the video

    Quick question, in the unlikely event that 5.1 kills fire, as the pyroblast nerf looks pretty bad, will you show some love for the fire peeps in way of a discount/transfer to frost?

    Also, is there documentation included? ie important keybinds, glyphs, things to consider, etc?

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    Pretty sure they pulled the pyroblast change back. And it wont be going live.

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    Originally Posted by tek.crx View Post
    Just sent some cash for the Fire profile, looked pretty good in the video

    Quick question, in the unlikely event that 5.1 kills fire, as the pyroblast nerf looks pretty bad, will you show some love for the fire peeps in way of a discount/transfer to frost?

    Also, is there documentation included? ie important keybinds, glyphs, things to consider, etc?

    Thanks
    When you open PQR and load the profile it will have a caution icon next to the profile which has keybind details etc for each profile. As for 5.1.. Fire will be fine and I will continue to support it. Last I checked pyroblast changes will not be making live.

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    Public profiles were great, just donated for fire, really keen to start testing.

    +rep (only have 1 left, so gonna have to deal with 1 for the day :P)

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    Hi, i like your firemage video. Please, where can download the profile?

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    The proc does not fall off does it? It falls under DoTs on priority so if dots need refreshed it will do that. and if it is casting more than 1 wrath iw ould be concerned. odds are that one wrath it casts is already queued before it identifies the shooting stars buff
    Nope. Lets say dots are up, surge proc and it casting wraths, when proc falls off it starts cast "normal" starsurge. It happen sometimes. And isnt it better to cast every proc of starsurge even over mouseover dotting? I think i in 6-7 mins of fight losing some starsurge proces.
    Second issue is when i got target and mouseover big pack of mobs and hold left shitf for AoE it broking sometimes my aoe and cast dot then again hurricane again stop, dot, hurricane stop, dot etc. Sometimes casting one wrath, using hurricane for time of GCD and again cast wrath.

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    vorn10 sure you updated through the svn to latest version or is it the free version you use? Because I dont have a problem with starsurges that I recall of, I can check it out though just to see. And the problem with hurricane, try not to mouseover any mobs when you do it and it shouldnt be any problem. Again havent noticed if it breaks if you do mouseover an enemy mob so I'll check that out as well.

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    @Ninjaderp Yeah iam using pay version, rev 7. Hurricane not always breaks, didnt notice exactly moments when it happens. Will check in LFR. Starsurges proces i think sometines arent used, cuz it casting wraths instead of instant starsurge.
    Iam talking about proc over mouseover dots cuz sometimes there are many targets and spell effect when i will not see i got proc (maybe should use some kind of addon) when i realise that i moving mouse to edge of screen and then it cast proc over dots.

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    Allright we'll see when Soap gets online if he can recreate the problem himself and find a solution, Im botting mining 1-525 now so Im "busy" lol.

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    Update from most current revision. You should no longet be having issues with starsurge priority as well as wasted shooting stars procs

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    Saw the mail-notification about this update, will re-svn asap. Looking forward to play my mage tonight, have to wait for my gf as we both level together. (ugh I just wanna play and use your frost/fire-profiles lol) Guess I'll bookmark your wordpress as well now, looking good!
    Last edited by Ninjaderp; 11-16-2012 at 07:33 AM.

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    Some constructive criticism regarding Frost mage [Public]
    The Mage bombs are to high on prio and arnt checking for AT buff. For example if i use AT it will cast Bombs before it FFB and IceLance.
    Frozen Orb is also to high up in Prio and should be cast if not moving and if 1 or less FoFstacks is on target. There is also a PQR function that will check if you are facing your target, might want to implement that. It might be buggy on Elegon so check that out first

    PoM Should be casted just before you activate Alter Time so you can get 2 PoM casted spells. If Alter Time is on CD then use PoM if its cd is ready when Alter Time is.

    Frostbolt Debuff (2) is a nice feature BUT check if its a boss target first or a TimeToDie function. Many Bossfights has adds etc with low HP then its not worth if to cast frostbolts until you have 3 stacks. Atm there isnt any checks if FoF or BrainFreeze is 2 sec less on target so basically the frostbold debuff will cast even if them stacks will run out before frost bolt have 3 stacks up.

    Pet Freeze is to low in prio imho. You have it after all moving for example. Best way to move is to cast Pet Freeze and when you run you will have FoF up to cast insta Ice Lances.

    All this is just my 2 cents and maybe you have that implemented in the donation profile.
    But take it or leave it and keep up the good work on public releases !!
    Looking for exploiters and botters to Elder Scrolls Online.

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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    Some constructive criticism regarding Frost mage [Public]
    The Mage bombs are to high on prio and arnt checking for AT buff. For example if i use AT it will cast Bombs before it FFB and IceLance.
    Frozen Orb is also to high up in Prio and should be cast if not moving and if 1 or less FoFstacks is on target. There is also a PQR function that will check if you are facing your target, might want to implement that. It might be buggy on Elegon so check that out first

    PoM Should be casted just before you activate Alter Time so you can get 2 PoM casted spells. If Alter Time is on CD then use PoM if its cd is ready when Alter Time is.

    Frostbolt Debuff (2) is a nice feature BUT check if its a boss target first or a TimeToDie function. Many Bossfights has adds etc with low HP then its not worth if to cast frostbolts until you have 3 stacks. Atm there isnt any checks if FoF or BrainFreeze is 2 sec less on target so basically the frostbold debuff will cast even if them stacks will run out before frost bolt have 3 stacks up.

    Pet Freeze is to low in prio imho. You have it after all moving for example. Best way to move is to cast Pet Freeze and when you run you will have FoF up to cast insta Ice Lances.

    All this is just my 2 cents and maybe you have that implemented in the donation profile.
    But take it or leave it and keep up the good work on public releases !!
    You identified everything I have changed and not pushed public(the SVN version has all of these) first one I noticed was the bomb during AT issue, I made sure to fix that.
    Alter time with frost has 3 different phases which are checked during the icy veins buff. If it sees 2 FOF procs and FFB, it will activate it if icy veins has 10 seconds left and only 1 FofF and FFB otherwise it will activate no matter what at 6 seconds left on icy veins. I have the PoM logic in my fire profile, just need to convert it over to frost.

    I moved freeze down because I was having issues with it. I wanted it to cast it on my mouseover location IF I had a target, instead of just period. I fixed that and pushed it to the SVN.

    I will update my public profiles today.

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    Originally Posted by Soapbox View Post
    I have the PoM logic in my fire profile, just need to convert it over to frost.
    Dont use PoM in a fire script. It works nice when you badly geared but when you getting high crits PoM during AT is a DPS loss.
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    Originally Posted by Gabbz View Post
    Dont use PoM in a fire script. It works nice when you badly geared but when you getting high crits PoM during AT is a DPS loss.
    It has a toggle (since a lot of people including myself aren't in the best gear) mage was a alt but I've chosen to make it my main because IMO WW monk is dull as all hell

    Though how would a instant pyro in any situation result in a DPS loss if pyroblast! Buffs are always used before the POM buff?
    Last edited by Soapbox; 11-16-2012 at 03:31 PM.

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