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    Originally Posted by tatakau View Post


    this is my rotation and gives me more dps than the default one hope its helpful to anyone.

    please share yours, if you think it's better than mine or the default one
    Hey, you can do more dps by putting Unleash Elements at the top. Talents that should be used for general fights are Echo Of the Elements and Unleashed Fury. UE should always be used on CD for more LB damage(30% extra) and static shock. It also better opener if you go for AoE or wanna spread your FS from the start to a second target with that extra dmg from unleashing FT.

    I dont how you handle it but you get a huge dps boost if you handle the cooldowns by yourself according to the situation. Using all at once is a rally bad i idea in my mind. When it comes to a burst phase you can click the spells on your own on actionbar. Spirit Wolves has to be popped when you have your Agi/AP proccs up to do more dps. Wait and pop them until you have a decent amount of extra agi/ap, it also has to be out to benefit from Hero/Bloodlust. Fire Elemental on the other hand is dynamic. If it is out and you get for example a trinket boost with extra Agi, your Fire Ele will also get the boost. When it fades from you it also fades from Fire Ele. So its not Dependent on your current proccs when it should be cast. The only thing to think about is how long it can stay on the boss and if you are using glyph or not. Its better to save it if there is a phase transistion and if you wait a moment you can have it up for 40+ secs instead of 10 secs. Or if there are more mobs up and it can AoE. Fire Ele is a huge dps boost when used correctly. Stormlash should be used when the raid need it the most, Most often at the start of the fight and in the end for burst. Or a phase where you have problem killing an add in time. Seconds in timing for yourself and raid matter a lot when it comes to these CDs and imo shouldnt just press and release all if you are serious.
    Since PQR is just spamming abilities you cant just click with mouse on a spell on actionbar to make it cast. You can counter this by making a new spell and put it above all abilities( Not my code, I copied it from someone a long time ago and i forgot who)

    Code:
    if IsMouseButtonDown(1) and GetMouseFocus() ~= nil and not IsMouseButtonDown(2) then
           if GetMouseFocus():GetName() ~= nil then 
              RunMacroText("/console Sound_EnableSFX 0")
              RunMacroText("/click "..GetMouseFocus():GetName()) 
              RunMacroText("/console Sound_EnableSFX 1")
              return true
        end
    end
    What it does is it pauses the rotation when left mouse button is down which gives you the ability to click any actionbar spell and it will go off as the next spell. Also very important for fast purging etc. If you want to cast a spell not in the profile just click and hold it down with left mousebutton until it has been cast and let go and the rotation will continue.

    Also about AoE, cpoworks has said he is working on it. Its not good at all unless you change a few things. It cant open with AoE since flame shock is so far down, it takes time before it will spread when Lava Lash is before it. Fire Nova is to far down. It only AoE "occasionally". If you want to go all out you need to change those. If you want light aoe you can click fire nova yourself on the actionbar when using above code. If there is 2-3 targets you still want to cleave but not do aoe with fire nova, I changed the cooldown key to toggle the LB spam to CL spam intead for cleave.

    A modified version of Cpo's profile can look something like this: http://puu.sh/1L8Hl
    Really good single target dps
    It can cleave
    It can start with AoE

    All the "double" spells are cause i'm not good at coding but it does get the job done. Same spells under different conditions. Can most likely improve a lot but just sharing what i think you can do to improve your dps since you asked.
    Last edited by Kaylo; 01-08-2013 at 03:57 AM.

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    Originally Posted by Kaylo View Post
    Hey, you can do more dps by putting Unleash Elements at the top. Talents that should be used for general fights are Echo Of the Elements and Unleashed Fury. UE should always be used on CD for more LB damage(30% extra) and static shock. It also better opener if you go for AoE or wanna spread your FS from the start to a second target with that extra dmg from unleashing FT.

    I dont how you handle it but you get a huge dps boost if you handle the cooldowns by yourself according to the situation. Using all at once is a rally bad i idea in my mind. When it comes to a burst phase you can click the spells on your own on actionbar. Spirit Wolves has to be popped when you have your Agi/AP proccs up to do more dps. Wait and pop them until you have a decent amount of extra agi/ap, it also has to be out to benefit from Hero/Bloodlust. Fire Elemental on the other hand is dynamic. If it is out and you get for example a trinket boost with extra Agi, your Fire Ele will also get the boost. When it fades from you it also fades from Fire Ele. So its not Dependent on your current proccs when it should be cast. The only thing to think about is how long it can stay on the boss and if you are using glyph or not. Its better to save it if there is a phase transistion and if you wait a moment you can have it up for 40+ secs instead of 10 secs. Or if there are more mobs up and it can AoE. Fire Ele is a huge dps boost when used correctly. Stormlash should be used when the raid need it the most, Most often at the start of the fight and in the end for burst. Or a phase where you have problem killing an add in time. Seconds in timing for yourself and raid matter a lot when it comes to these CDs and imo shouldnt just press and release all if you are serious.
    Since PQR is just spamming abilities you cant just click with mouse on a spell on actionbar to make it cast. You can counter this by making a new spell and put it above all abilities( Not my code, I copied it from someone a long time ago and i forgot who)

    Code:
    if IsMouseButtonDown(1) and GetMouseFocus() ~= nil and not IsMouseButtonDown(2) then
           if GetMouseFocus():GetName() ~= nil then 
              RunMacroText("/console Sound_EnableSFX 0")
              RunMacroText("/click "..GetMouseFocus():GetName()) 
              RunMacroText("/console Sound_EnableSFX 1")
              return true
        end
    end
    What it does is it pauses the rotation when left mouse button is down which gives you the ability to click any actionbar spell and it will go off as the next spell. Also very important for fast purging etc. If you want to cast a spell not in the profile just click and hold it down with left mousebutton until it has been cast and let go and the rotation will continue.

    Also about AoE, cpoworks has said he is working on it. Its not good at all unless you change a few things. It cant open with AoE since flame shock is so far down, it takes time before it will spread when Lava Lash is before it. Fire Nova is to far down. It only AoE "occasionally". If you want to go all out you need to change those. If you want light aoe you can click fire nova yourself on the actionbar when using above code. If there is 2-3 targets you still want to cleave but not do aoe with fire nova, I changed the cooldown key to toggle the LB spam to CL spam intead for cleave.

    A modified version of Cpo's profile can look something like this: http://puu.sh/1L8Hl
    Really good single target dps
    It can cleave
    It can start with AoE

    All the "double" spells are cause i'm not good at coding but it does get the job done. Same spells under different conditions. Can most likely improve a lot but just sharing what i think you can do to improve your dps since you asked.
    thank you very much for your reply, you helped me a lot to understand how this works +5rep to you

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    i have weakauras for my trinket procs and most of the time i wait to toggle my CDS when i have them up. Thats why CDs are toggable and disabled by default. I have seemed to fixed the AoE problem (Lava lash before FS) by 1 pulling Flame shock above lavalash and 2 making it so it wont cast lavalash while in aoe mode if theres no flame shock on the target. I could probaly bump the priority of fire nova because some times it could be delayed because of a stormstrike or earthshock.

    Im also thinking about making a mouse over flame shock for fights like heroic sha of fear where theres alot of adds and lavalash cleave wont spread fs to all of the targets. but it would only be active in AoE mode or soemthing.
    Last edited by cpowroks; 01-08-2013 at 04:44 PM.
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    Enhancement only(5.1)

    I'm posting my modified version because I got requests doing it. I modded it for myself and thats how it is released. I'm posting random comments(some included in previous post) and thoughts below but keep in mind its only to explain why I chose to do things a bit different from original profile. If it's not for you, dont use it.

    You have to click shamanistic rage and astral shift yourself. I like it better not popping both that the same time and the ability to choose. Lots of times where its better to use them separately to survive burst dmg even if astral shift is only every 2 minutes.
    It does not have healthstone support at low hp cause i personally dont want it auto used when low hp. Quick example are Empress(heroic mode) where people chaining raid Cooldowns to survive heavy dmg bursts. People communicate and say what raid cooldowns are used each explosion. You will get low but you will survive and get healed. If something goes wrong and you arent topped off you need to either heal yourself or use a stone for it. I prefer to keep the dps and use a stone. So sometimes its better to use a stone at high hp to get topped off and ready for new dmg rather than popping right after dmg hit and you are still alive. By waste i mean putting it on cooldown so you cant use it in a situation where it would benefit you more.
    As I wrote in a previous post you can click spells on your actionbars. Rotation is paused while left mousebutton is down. I personally really like it this way. Try it and you will find out what i mean. If its not for you just remove it. It also includes trinket and engi gloves. If you dont have Engi you can remove it.
    One more thing about the CDs. Spirit Wolves are a dps boost but dont forget they also heal you(more heals with glyph). It's not always about dps. There are fights where I save my wolves just so I can use them for healing(incl glyph) instead of dps. Shamanistic rage and Astral shift is always my first choice to negate dmg but sometimes need a boost to get HP back. One example is Lei Shi get away phase in heroic. Massive dmg, personally use Ancestral Guidance with Acendance when possible to help the healers. That toggle CDs still has a pre-determined order which doesnt always fit my situation so I prefer to pop them manually where i find they can do most good for me and the raid.

    Single target dps is from EJ:

    Code:
    0	 ST_0	 Searing Totem with 0 ticks remaining
    1	 EB	 Elemental Blast if specced into it (hardcast)
    2	 UE_EF	 Unleash Elements if spec into Unleashed Fury
    3	 MW5_LB	 Maelstrom Weapon x5 stacks + Lightning Bolt
    4	 SS	 Stormstrike//Stormblast
    5	 LL	 Lava Lash with 5 Searing Flame stacks
    6	 UE	 Unleash Elements
    7	 MW>3_LB_UF	 Maelstrom Weapon >3 stacks + Lightning Bolt and UF debuff up
    8a	 FS_UEF	 Flame Shock if the Unleash Flame buff is present and FS is about to drop (glyphed FS)
    8b	 FS_UEF	 Flame Shock if the Unleash Flame buff is present, even though there might be seconds left (unglyphed FS)
    9	 ES	 Earth Shock
    10	 SW	 Spirit Wolves//Feral Spirit
    11	 EE	 Earth Elemental
    12	 MW>1_LB	 Maelstrom Weapon >1 stacks + Lightning Bolt
    13	 ST	 Searing Totem (with x ticks remaining, set in sim)

    Optimal talents for the roations are Echo Of Elements and Unleashed fury. Use Glyph of Flame Shock. If you cant have your Fire Elemental up for 1 minute in the fight use the Glyph.

    Enhancement rotation changed when MoP was released. I'm glad Cpo finally changed UE after my post but Lightning Bolt should still be higher up. The profile could have done a bunch more dps from first release with those two getting different prio.

    Use AoE with 4 or more mobs.
    Toggle Chain Lightning key for cleave 2-3 targets. Glyph CL if there is a fight with 4 or more mobs to hit.
    No support for Magma totem yet.
    Solo rotation is the same as the others except it will use healing surge on 5 stacks instead of LB and it wont cast searing totem. Searing totem is a dps boost but solo doing dailies etc i find it more in the way than useful. You can add it in if you want.
    Fs Prio rotation is the the ones i use the most myself but also sometimes switch priority a bit. I recommend using this one. For 1 target only have FS below LL in rotation.
    Enh Standard is roation based from EJ. This one is a bit situational. I prefer the rotation above. This rotation includes LB's below 4 stacks. It not always good casting it depending on how many stacks vs how close a new spell coming off CD is. If a spell is close to come off CD castinf with few stacks can be a decrease so thats why I dont always use it.

    I did some cleanup for the release and I broke Flame Shock(only use when UF is up) so it will occasionally cast FS without UF up. I can fix it if it turns out people like my modified version.


    Except modified Cpo profile i also copied some code from Xelper, Sheuron and I forgot the name of the guy I got the Mouseclick code from.

    KayloEnh_SHAMAN_Abilities.xml
    KayloEnh_SHAMAN_Rotations.xml
    Last edited by Kaylo; 01-09-2013 at 01:15 AM.

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    iv noticed in the new elemental shaman rotation (after the update)..when using chain lightning (left shift) lava burst is casted as soon as it procs,
    this in fact probably kills the aoe rotation for ele shamans.

    so if you could fix this cpo it would be appreciated.

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    Originally Posted by triggersad View Post
    iv noticed in the new elemental shaman rotation (after the update)..when using chain lightning (left shift) lava burst is casted as soon as it procs,
    this in fact probably kills the aoe rotation for ele shamans.

    so if you could fix this cpo it would be appreciated.
    It's actually incredibly nice to have happen.

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    Originally Posted by Sevve3 View Post
    It's actually incredibly nice to have happen.
    really?
    if there are 4 or more monsters isnt it a dps loss?

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    yeah i can change it, I only did it so i could tunnel lava bursts into the boss while cleaving. ill just make a new ability that just tunnels CL and no fs/lavaburst.
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    ok its up, just put the AoE 4+ above flame shock and if you want to go back put the AoE 1-3 below flame shock
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    @Kaylo

    I have a list that i want to add into my rotation:
    -Add magma totem support if im in melee range of the target
    -Mouseover Flame shock(Mostly for heroic sha or stoneguards or garalon any fight that you cant lava lash cleave FS)
    -some how add 2 AoE modes 1) 1-2 targets fire nova with LB (Or if adds with flame shock or out of rage Ex. heroic sha) 2) 4+ with Chain light (Avrey does this on his ret profile but it requires 2 hot keys and i only want to use 1 so i will have to think of soemthing.)
    -Add purge support for protectors/other fights (mostly so i can be lazy in raids)

    Also, im 100% sure UE has been at the top of the rotation since release but i do agree LB 5+ could be higher
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    Originally Posted by cpowroks View Post
    @Kaylo
    Also, im 100% sure UE has been at the top of the rotation since release but i do agree LB 5+ could be higher
    I'm glad we could agree on something .

    Anyways sorry but I have to correct you on UE. Linking pics to 2 of your previous MoP versions of you enhancement profile. UE is not at the top in either of them.




    EDIT: I'm not trying to start a war, I'm just backing up my comment. Moving on to continue to talk about enhancement profiles and all that matters right now.
    Last edited by Kaylo; 01-10-2013 at 05:37 AM.

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    Another quick gripe,

    Current ELE profile still doesn't seem to attack the terror spawns ( Even though you've added them ) on sha in terrace of endless springs. That, and for some reason last night on heroic empress it was consuming lava burst procs without flameshock on some of the adds .. resulting in a theoretical dps loss,

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    Originally Posted by Kaylo View Post
    I'm glad we could agree on something .

    snip


    EDIT: I'm not trying to start a war, I'm just backing up my comment. Moving on to continue to talk about enhancement profiles and all that matters right now.

    those are really old versions. If i remember correctly vers 5-6 where my first MoP revisions and with the realease of 2.0 UE was at the top.

    Anyways it really doesnt matter.


    Also Sevve3, I don't know what is causing your problems. I use exact same function in my enhance and elemental profiles that attack mobs that pqr wouldn't normally attack and i know the dread spawns work on the enhance profile because i was padding when we stooped DPS on heroic sha while waiting for the fearless buff. And about your Lava burst problem. There might be a problem with my Lava burst (Moving) spell. Ill check it in a sec.
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    Originally Posted by Kaylo View Post
    Hey, you can do more dps by putting Unleash Elements at the top. Talents that should be used for general fights are Echo Of the Elements and Unleashed Fury. UE should always be used on CD for more LB damage(30% extra) and static shock. It also better opener if you go for AoE or wanna spread your FS from the start to a second target with that extra dmg from unleashing FT.

    I dont how you handle it but you get a huge dps boost if you handle the cooldowns by yourself according to the situation. Using all at once is a rally bad i idea in my mind. When it comes to a burst phase you can click the spells on your own on actionbar. Spirit Wolves has to be popped when you have your Agi/AP proccs up to do more dps. Wait and pop them until you have a decent amount of extra agi/ap, it also has to be out to benefit from Hero/Bloodlust. Fire Elemental on the other hand is dynamic. If it is out and you get for example a trinket boost with extra Agi, your Fire Ele will also get the boost. When it fades from you it also fades from Fire Ele. So its not Dependent on your current proccs when it should be cast. The only thing to think about is how long it can stay on the boss and if you are using glyph or not. Its better to save it if there is a phase transistion and if you wait a moment you can have it up for 40+ secs instead of 10 secs. Or if there are more mobs up and it can AoE. Fire Ele is a huge dps boost when used correctly. Stormlash should be used when the raid need it the most, Most often at the start of the fight and in the end for burst. Or a phase where you have problem killing an add in time. Seconds in timing for yourself and raid matter a lot when it comes to these CDs and imo shouldnt just press and release all if you are serious.
    Since PQR is just spamming abilities you cant just click with mouse on a spell on actionbar to make it cast. You can counter this by making a new spell and put it above all abilities( Not my code, I copied it from someone a long time ago and i forgot who)

    Code:
    if IsMouseButtonDown(1) and GetMouseFocus() ~= nil and not IsMouseButtonDown(2) then
           if GetMouseFocus():GetName() ~= nil then 
              RunMacroText("/console Sound_EnableSFX 0")
              RunMacroText("/click "..GetMouseFocus():GetName()) 
              RunMacroText("/console Sound_EnableSFX 1")
              return true
        end
    end
    What it does is it pauses the rotation when left mouse button is down which gives you the ability to click any actionbar spell and it will go off as the next spell. Also very important for fast purging etc. If you want to cast a spell not in the profile just click and hold it down with left mousebutton until it has been cast and let go and the rotation will continue.

    Also about AoE, cpoworks has said he is working on it. Its not good at all unless you change a few things. It cant open with AoE since flame shock is so far down, it takes time before it will spread when Lava Lash is before it. Fire Nova is to far down. It only AoE "occasionally". If you want to go all out you need to change those. If you want light aoe you can click fire nova yourself on the actionbar when using above code. If there is 2-3 targets you still want to cleave but not do aoe with fire nova, I changed the cooldown key to toggle the LB spam to CL spam intead for cleave.

    A modified version of Cpo's profile can look something like this: http://puu.sh/1L8Hl
    Really good single target dps
    It can cleave
    It can start with AoE

    All the "double" spells are cause i'm not good at coding but it does get the job done. Same spells under different conditions. Can most likely improve a lot but just sharing what i think you can do to improve your dps since you asked.
    Wow I didn't realize that you could change the spell priority order this way, I thought it was just to remove and add abilities to rotations,......

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    I am in love with the Enhance profile, please oh please keep it updated. +rep

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