[PE] MacksCRs

[Mackdaddy2887]

SO just did more testing of Resto Druid. Scored 98% percentile!!!

The only issue It has is the amount of Overhealing. The overhealing from Tranq is w/e, but the OH from things like Rejuve, regrowth, etc, I DO have better control over. Ill be tweaking the druid profiles to not use so much mana, and lower the sheer amount of overhealing. here is two Normal Logs from Brackenspre and Twins:

Bracken:



and Twins:

[Mackdaddy2887]

#mackdaddy2887

is there any chance that you could make an Unholy Death Knight profile?

Ronnotter

Hey sorry I missed your comment. Unfortunately I dont have a DK =[

[Mackdaddy2887]

So ive been pushing updates daily, sometimes even more than once. Constant testing and tweaking.

To help with this, ive decided to release a bit slower (unless somethings broken and needs fixed immediately), Ive also updated the version numbers. So we can all stay up to date!

Change Log:

01/10/2015

-All routines: Updated version #s

-Monk Mistweaver
--A few fixes after the massive overhaul, mostly crane stance stuff

-Paladin Holy
--Tons of tweaks, added some logic (still only supports SS, no EF yet sorry!)
--I ran normals, I have a pretty low ilvl and crap gear, and seem to perform relatively well, Looking forward to feedback so I can improve this routine

-Druid Restoration
--To accompany my previous post about toning down the overhealing, Ive tweaked the CR, should run just as strong with less overhealing

[abndrew82]

Question on Resto druid, not sure if has been changed since but will find out in a few. But did an LFR last week and noticed it healed great, but was not doing any dispelling, is the plan to leave dispelling to the user or is that just something still being worked out.

Thanks

[barandeniz]

RetHelper doesnt do anything ?

Ah got it , its just helper on utility. sorry

[Mackdaddy2887]

Question on Resto druid, not sure if has been changed since but will find out in a few. But did an LFR last week and noticed it healed great, but was not doing any dispelling, is the plan to leave dispelling to the user or is that just something still being worked out.

Thanks

Which debuff? I've started a list of specific debuffs to dispel. What was it not dispelling?

[LtButterman]

Mack, Sorry I haven't posted for a bit I've been busy lately but the new updates to resto shams profile seem pretty amazing, one thing about the aoe toggling of chain heal.. It seems to spam chain heal frequently on people at 95% hp .. Seems like a waste to consume 10% of total mana on a single aoe spell that does more then "topping up" players. I don't know if smarthealing has been implemented on the aoe rotation or not But it probably would be wise to add some better values to the aoe portion of the rotation (I'm happy i get to control where and when it uses healing rain, though).

[Mackdaddy2887]

RetHelper doesnt do anything ?

Ah got it , its just helper on utility. sorry

Haha yeah just something I toy with on the side.

[Mackdaddy2887]

Mack, Sorry I haven't posted for a bit I've been busy lately but the new updates to resto shams profile seem pretty amazing, one thing about the aoe toggling of chain heal.. It seems to spam chain heal frequently on people at 95% hp .. Seems like a waste to consume 10% of total mana on a single aoe spell that does more then "topping up" players. I don't know if smarthealing has been implemented on the aoe rotation or not But it probably would be wise to add some better values to the aoe portion of the rotation (I'm happy i get to control where and when it uses healing rain, though).

Hmm.. we're you in ascendance? It spams it, as ive not put much logic into ascendance yet.
Otherwise I don't think it should use unless they're 90% or below, AND Have an active riptide, and even then if they're above 60% it shouldnt spam chain heal, it should weave Healing Waves and chain heal to keep up tidal waves.

With that being said, ill jump deep into thy multi target sham tonight, and improve the logic, tweak thy numbers, and hopefully deliver an even better CR! Remember, choosing which type of healing 'rotation' the CR uses is up to you. Create a macro,"/pe aoe" (It toggles the multi target button) . But ill definitely tweak it, over healing is a no no!

Thanks for feedback!!!

[LtButterman]

Thanks for the solid response, Mack! Nope was out of asc and yeah I've learnt to know when i should be toggling aoe on and off for each encounter. In saying so even before the tweaks I was hitting high 90s percentile for 666ilvl (without chain-healing ). Ridiculous profile m8 keep up the terrific work!

Also is there a way the profile would Force quit an active cast of e.g. Elemental Blast or perhaps another healing spell when the emergency numbers for tanks go active? Just curious because there's been a few occasions when my set focused Tank is dropped to 20% hp and im still in the middle of casting Elemental Blast or another heal on another friendly therefore killing my tank haha.

Lastly this is only for one specific encounter on Kargath when I get thrown up into the stands with my group will it still function properly up there? I've been sent once before and it kind of seemed to search for out of range targets in the arena rather then focus heal my current group up in the stands.

[barandeniz]

Feedback to Holy Paladin Profile :
1)It usually casts Holy Light instead of WoG so doesnt spend Holy Power so doesnt cast Holy Shock cuzz we have generally 5 HP already.
2)casts HoP to tanks.
3)Doesnt use Divine Purpose procs well.
4)I think somehow it needs to use Holy Shock nearly every CD to use its holy power and procs.

[Mackdaddy2887]

Feedback to Holy Paladin Profile :aaaaIt usually casts Holy Light instead of WoG so doesnt spend Holy Power so doesnt cast Holy Shock cuzz we have generally 5 HP already.
2)casts HoP to tanks.
3)Doesnt use Divine Purpose procs well.
4)I think somehow it needs to use Holy Shock nearly every CD to use its holy power and procs.

1. Hmm so it needs to consume your HP more? Is it better to save your Holy power for light of dawn? And just single target with holy light? Or should it just consume your HP on word on glory? I'm honestly new to holy paladin, and was just using icy veins guide.

2. Yeah it'll BoP the tank, haven't figured out how to cast on the lowest, but NOT tank. Actually I just thought of something I think might work, will test tonight.(You can turn off auto hands usage I'd needed for now)

3. Hmm yes I noticed it wasn't consuming, I just thought it was because at the time of the proc nobody needed healing.I have some ideas here now that you mention it. Save the proc for needed healing, unless its going to fall off, then use it anyways.



4. Hmmm.. the newer version should be using holy shock basically on CD , (unless everyone's full hp, or holypowrr cap)..



Honestly I'm newer to holy paladin. The guide says rarely ever use WoG, almost exclusively light of dawn is better. With that being said, I told the CR to go ahead and use if your at 5 holy power and there's only single target needing healing.

In your experience, what is your spell cast priority and usage? Ill warcraft logs some pallies tonight and do some spell analysis.

Thanks for feedback. I Have to wait 24hrs to spread any more rep!

What changes would you like to see? (Other than the DP procs and HoP on tanks lol)

[Mackdaddy2887]

Thanks for the solid response, Mack! Nope was out of asc and yeah I've learnt to know when i should be toggling aoe on and off for each encounter. In saying so even before the tweaks I was hitting high 90s percentile for 666ilvl (without chain-healing ). Ridiculous profile m8 keep up the terrific work!

Also is there a way the profile would Force quit an active cast of e.g. Elemental Blast or perhaps another healing spell when the emergency numbers for tanks go active? Just curious because there's been a few occasions when my set focused Tank is dropped to 20% hp and im still in the middle of casting Elemental Blast or another heal on another friendly therefore killing my tank haha.

Lastly this is only for one specific encounter on Kargath when I get thrown up into the stands with my group will it still function properly up there? I've been sent once before and it kind of seemed to search for out of range targets in the arena rather then focus heal my current group up in the stands.

Hmm the profile should be force casting if emergency healing is needed. Ill look into this thank you!! Also ill be tweaking the aoe (chain heal) so less over heal and mana wasting.

As for the stands, I've never done them, but I think it's a LoS issue. I thought FH did this automatically, but.... I'm not sure. Ill look into this

Thanks for feedback. I Have to wait 24hrs to spread any more rep!

[barandeniz]

i tried it in only 5man heroics, generally while spamming holy light %80 of the time tank dies. maybe i was very unlucky at matching paper tanks but i played like 5-6 heroics in a row to test profile everytime same thing happened my ilvl is 645 btw. let me try it in LFR maybe more ppl in raid , better the profile get.

[saga3180]

1. Hmm so it needs to consume your HP more? Is it better to save your Holy power for light of dawn? And just single target with holy light? Or should it just consume your HP on word on glory? I'm honestly new to holy paladin, and was just using icy veins guide.

2. Yeah it'll BoP the tank, haven't figured out how to cast on the lowest, but NOT tank. Actually I just thought of something I think might work, will test tonight.(You can turn off auto hands usage I'd needed for now)

3. Hmm yes I noticed it wasn't consuming, I just thought it was because at the time of the proc nobody needed healing.I have some ideas here now that you mention it. Save the proc for needed healing, unless its going to fall off, then use it anyways.



4. Hmmm.. the newer version should be using holy shock basically on CD , (unless everyone's full hp, or holypowrr cap)..



Honestly I'm newer to holy paladin. The guide says rarely ever use WoG, almost exclusively light of dawn is better. With that being said, I told the CR to go ahead and use if your at 5 holy power and there's only single target needing healing.

In your experience, what is your spell cast priority and usage? Ill warcraft logs some pallies tonight and do some spell analysis.

Thanks for feedback. I Have to wait 24hrs to spread any more rep!

What changes would you like to see? (Other than the DP procs and HoP on tanks lol)

[WoD] Holy Paladin Guide 6.0
That will help you greatly for holy pallys