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    tsincaat: Read my threads about glider vs. openbot and you will see that i think the same as the OP.
    i was a glider user for a VERY long time and loved it to bits, however I heard more and more about innerspace so i decided to test it out. It was time for me to try both sides of the story before praising only one of them.
    After 2 hours i was amazed, even with my little knowledge of innerspace it still wiped glider off the sheet by miles. I was able to do stuff within 2 days of using innerspace (wasnt openbot back then) that i had never been able to with glider.
    now im using openbot and yes i do still believe that it is WAAAY better than glider. for me Glider is the thing that you start of with a gameboy, but when you are ready to move onto something that you can tweak and configure much more to your liking and to get better performance then you switch to the computer instead of the gameboy or, to Innerspace(openbot) instead of Glider.

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    Originally Posted by KuRIoS View Post
    tsincaat: Read my threads about glider vs. openbot and you will see that i think the same as the OP.
    i was a glider user for a VERY long time and loved it to bits, however I heard more and more about innerspace so i decided to test it out. It was time for me to try both sides of the story before praising only one of them.
    After 2 hours i was amazed, even with my little knowledge of innerspace it still wiped glider off the sheet by miles. I was able to do stuff within 2 days of using innerspace (wasnt openbot back then) that i had never been able to with glider.
    now im using openbot and yes i do still believe that it is WAAAY better than glider. for me Glider is the thing that you start of with a gameboy, but when you are ready to move onto something that you can tweak and configure much more to your liking and to get better performance then you switch to the computer instead of the gameboy or, to Innerspace(openbot) instead of Glider.
    That's fine, and I agree that Innerspace and Openbot are very different and in some ways much more powerful then glider. I myself have a Lavishsoft subscription, though I will be truthful and say I don't use it.

    My main problem with this post is that I don't think it's a well thought out comparison. I understand that this community is for the most part pro Innerspace and openbot, so most people overlook things when it agrees to their way of thinking. Really what I want is a fair comparison with fair arguments, without favoritism and ignorance being shown by the reviewer.

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    Originally Posted by tsincaat View Post
    That's fine, and I agree that Innerspace and Openbot are very different and in some ways much more powerful then glider. I myself have a Lavishsoft subscription, though I will be truthful and say I don't use it.

    My main problem with this post is that I don't think it's a well thought out comparison. I understand that this community is for the most part pro Innerspace and openbot, so most people overlook things when it agrees to their way of thinking. Really what I want is a fair comparison with fair arguments, without favoritism and ignorance being shown by the reviewer.
    this community is not pro innerspace and openbot tho, many many many users here have only tried glider. However the ones that are for openbot here are in 95% of the cases ex glider users that have switched to openbot, meaning people that used to think that glider was the very best.
    So therefore threads like this one and my "openbot or innerspace vs glider" can be used as we were once glider users as well. It's just that we like Innerspace more now.

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    +rep ^^ if only I had money and a visa gift card for my paypal

    [conspiricy] You posted this on D3scene too :O the exact same post...[/conspiricy]
    Look at your post, now back to mine; Now back to your post, now back to mine. Sadly, it isn't mine, but if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate content, it could look like mine. Look down, backup, where are you? You're scrolling through threads, reading the post your post could look like. What did you post? Back at mine; It's a reply saying something you want to hear. Look again and the reply is now diamonds.

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    I post alot of my stuff on d3scene, it is my right to share it with anyone/any community I want...

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    Originally Posted by tttommeke View Post
    I post alot of my stuff on d3scene, it is my right to share it with anyone/any community I want...
    yeah, but don't expect us to understand why you post on that crappy site :confused:

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    I used glider.. And Openbot is still 1000x better.


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    Originally Posted by KuRIoS View Post
    yeah, but don't expect us to understand why you post on that crappy site :confused:
    Some websites contain more then you think ;-)

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    thanks for this topic.

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    I do not agree with a lot of things you typed up; seems rather bias to me.

    Anti-Human-Detection: Pathetic low, you can see from a distance that it is a bot. It runs just always the same path, doesn't add new faster routines and folows it upon a yard so he will run at the exact point when he is rerunning his path. This is good if you want to have certain small pathings. Also when people whisper it it just sit's down and logout (Option) or when you wave at him he will ignore it.

    Pathing: As I already said in Anti-Human Detection. But here is a picture : (picture)
    No, not true. Glider doesn't run the same path over and over (at least it doesn't have to). Try enabling wander, skip waypoints, and breadcrumbs. Glider can now go in a completely random path and then revert back to the waypoints if it gets stuck somewhere. Also, we have logout timers which is an amazing tool to prevent player reports. There is an addon named Auto-Emote that sends emotes back at players that emote you (if even has a delay!). Truthfully, I can go on about Glider's anti-player-detection features for quite a while. If you think about it though, avoiding players is totally up to YOU, not Glider. Don't use public profiles and you should be fine.

    Pathing: As I already said in Anti-Human Detection. But here is a picture :
    You can use custom classes which switches up your combat routine if you are worried about that. There are a ton on the Glider forums.

    It taked some time before glider had this functions, I think, and still they aren't really completed, bugged. He only goes to the people you have selected and nothing more. Also, still alot of people need help with this function because it is to pritty hard to configurate.
    Glider currently DOES have vendoring capabilities. It might be hard to configure for a twelve year old.. Glider is simple to use, even the vendoring feature.


    Glider got alot of random functions as talk back to GM etc but at some functions you even need to be glider elite. Like the function background mode, you need to be an elite and this is not cool when you know you can also have this background mode with innerspace for the same price... I think glider got to many random functions.
    It is only five dollars per month, cheap. And how can Glider have too many "random functions"? All of the functions are there for a reason and they are incredibly easy to use.

    Random functions: Glider got alot of random functions as talk back to GM etc but at some functions you even need to be glider elite. Like the function background mode, you need to be an elite and this is not cool when you know you can also have this background mode with innerspace for the same price... I think glider got to many random functions.
    Or just 30 dollars with one month of Elite. If you like it, continue the subscription.


    End conclusion: I also used glider for some time and found sometimes I was running the same paths as other people (lazyness :') ). The price tag was a bit to high for me so I didn't buy it but got a key from a friend were I shared with. Glider is a good tool if you are a starter because their are many tutorials on the internet but it isn't a great tool if you wan't to stay undetected.
    You even said the reason yourself, you are lazy. Use private profiles and you should be fine. Glider has the best anti-detection track record out of any bot out on the market.


    Sheesh, that was bias. If anybody has any questions about Glider please feel free to ask ME, thank you. Heck, I might start a new thread to throw away these misconceptions.

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    - The wandering function is only for open terrain, at terrain with trees etc he will get stuckt 200% You can setup random path but he will stay following the lines and will never improve himself.

    - The custom classes are private etc, alot of people here have their key thanks to some sellers etc and the key was already in the forum so they couldn't activate their forumkey anymore.

    - Are you saying I am a 12 year old kid ? Because I am sure a 12 year old kid can configurate openbot his vendor 500% faster then the glider...

    - Cheap for some people, other people who don't have jobs etc... they must ask mommy/daddy for their CC and I think mommy / daddy will prefer to pay 36$/year then 5$/month

    - Glider uses ISXWarden.dll to protect himself... and also probably some own defence system were I never heard ever about...
    Also when you look at how many people got banned thanks to glider and how many thanks to innerspace then their must be something in your brain that says, openbot is safer...
    Last edited by tttommeke; 01-09-2008 at 02:26 PM.

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    The wandering function is only for open terrain, at terrain with trees etc he will get stuckt 200% You can setup random path but he will stay following the lines and will never improve himself.
    It is all about the profiles. As long as you have a decent profile you shouldn't run over the same path twice during a Glide. Also breadcrumbs works fine in tricky terrain.

    The custom classes are private etc, alot of people here have their key thanks to some sellers etc and the key was already in the forum so they couldn't activate their forumkey anymore.
    Most custom classes are not private. Well, yes, you do need a Glider forum account to access them. Glider does not support peer to peer Glider key trading. It is your own fault if you buy a key that is already attached to a forum account.

    Are you saying I am a 12 year old kid ? Because I am sure a 12 year old kid can configurate openbot his vendor 500% faster then the glider...
    Did I say you are a twelve year old kid? Hey, that is a matter of opinion. To me, Glider vendoring is second nature.

    Cheap for some people, other people who don't have jobs etc... they must ask mommy/daddy for their CC and I think mommy / daddy will prefer to pay 36$/year then 5$/month
    5 dollars per month is nothing. College coke cans or something, seriously. Plus it isn't even necessary. Without Glider Elite you still get all of the core features and security.

    Glider uses ISXWarden.dll to protect himself... and also probably some own defence system were I never heard ever about...
    Also when you look at how many people got banned thanks to glider and how many thanks to innerspace then their must be something in your brain that says, openbot is safer...
    Completely wrong. Glider now uses our own security, TripWire and NetCheck, just to name a couple. TripWire detects unsafe wardens and has Glider completely close if necessary. If the creator, Mercury, feels that it is unsafe to Glide, he can disable everybody's Glider (if they enabled NetCheck). Gliding is very safe compared to OpenBot. More people got banned using Glider? That might be so. We have had a couple ban waves in our history. Why do we have more bans? Because we have more customers. More people turn to Glider then any other bot. If you look at the percentages, instead of the numbers, I am sure Glider has had less bans.

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    I mean more bans every X persons... not the total ammount ... and I can just go movie a innerspace bot and a glider bot (when I got gametime) and I shall put them together... shall we see how fast everyone can detect who bots ? To detect a innerspace bot you will need more time because emotes are just returned back, he never but never walks weard in circles because he taught he found something, he harvest quest objects from the ground etc...

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    Originally Posted by tttommeke View Post
    I mean more bans every X persons... not the total ammount ... and I can just go movie a innerspace bot and a glider bot (when I got gametime) and I shall put them together... shall we see how fast everyone can detect who bots ? To detect a innerspace bot you will need more time because emotes are just returned back, he never but never walks weard in circles because he taught he found something, he harvest quest objects from the ground etc...
    Sounds pretty good to me! Would like to see which bot can make me deside..
    Heard alot of stuff that IS is pretty hard and stuff blabla - but saw this 40 min long movie a while a go (here on MMOwned), were a guy told about ALL the goodies that IS / OpenBot has, while he was making a tutorial on how to setup the basics and he made it look 5000x times EASYER and better then Glider!
    (Can't seem to find the movie anymore Well darn..)


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    Originally Posted by Jenack View Post
    Sounds pretty good to me! Would like to see which bot can make me deside..
    Heard alot of stuff that IS is pretty hard and stuff blabla - but saw this 40 min long movie a while a go (here on MMOwned), were a guy told about ALL the goodies that IS / OpenBot has, while he was making a tutorial on how to setup the basics and he made it look 5000x times EASYER and better then Glider!
    (Can't seem to find the movie anymore Well darn..)
    m8, if u get innerspace then i can help u set it up. add me on msn and i will talk u thru it its quite easy.. or you can just read my n00bproof guide to setting up openbot and innerspace they are stickies in this section of the forum

    Ocktra you know that you are biased since u are a mod on gliders forums and the developer of profilebay profiles, where as users such as me and tttommeke are both exglider users, but we preferred openbot instead(i only wanted to test the innerspace bots for making comparisons i didnt believe that they were better than glider, untill i tested them)
    "Gliding is very safe compared to OpenBot."
    how is it that you can always notice a glider after watching it for a very short time while its a lot more tricky to catch someone with a openbot profile.
    Sure both bots has its positive sides and negative sides, but still i think that glider is worse than openbot.
    Last edited by KuRIoS; 01-09-2008 at 06:16 PM.

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